All aboard, then?

Not much in the way of statements about the UUP executive meeting on Friday, where the party’s pact with the PUP and the Electoral Commission’s call for the party’s finances to be investigated were due to be discussed, the BBC quotes an anonymous source subtly damping down reports of any possible controversy and notes that “Sir Reg left the meeting without making any comment.”

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  • inuit_goddess

    Great to see Sir Reg still sticking firmly to his guns. He has stood firm against his critics and clearly believes in what he is doing.

    As I’ve said before, the guy has guts, and he knows where he is going with this.

    If he eventually succeeds in bringing loyalism into the process, we will all be thankful, so lets give him time to deliver.

  • Pete Baker

    inuit_g

    You wouldn’t happen to be the BBC’s anonymous source I noted in the original post.. subtly damping down reports of any possible controversy? 😉

  • inuit_goddess

    Not me I’m afraid! 🙂

    I’m just very glad that the UUP Executive, with a few understandable grimbles, has given its support to Sir Reg on this.

    Reg needs time, he knows what he’s doing and he is very determined – he has taken tons of criticism on the chin over this, and he is still sticking to his course.

    That, to me, is the hallmark of a true leader.

    It really is heartening to see the UUP coming out of the DUP shadow and charting it’s own course and sticking to it. If Reg succeeds in leading loyalism out of the cold, our whole society here in Northern Ireland will be better for it.

    It’s not easy, and all of us, nationalist & unionist, need to give Reg the time and space to deliver on this.

  • Harry

    Yes all of us, nationalist and unionist, should support Reg in giving the imprimatur of official approval to the killing of members of our communtiy. He’s very determined and bewildered, a true leader. Hopefully he will stick to someone else’s guns over this and loyalism can be brought in from the cold storage area where they have someone upside down on a meat hook.

  • Levi

    Reminds me a bit of what the SDLP did with Sinn Fein in the early days… Goose..gander

  • blahblahblah

    it was a very constructive meeting, with a large degree of unity and determination being shown by the leader and executive.

    as one executive member righlty reminded those who may have spoken publically against the ervine affair – it was not loyalist terrorists that the uup and dup put at the heart of government in northern ireland, any time for moral objection to this sort of this was in 1997.

    bowles was not mentioned once – not even when there was some ire regarding the relative ‘inactivity’ of his membership committee over several months – luckily this situation is now being corrected.

  • blahblahblah

    “any time for moral objection to this … was in 1997”

    That’s not what the UUP exec was saying IN 1997 or 1998 or 1999 or 2000 or 2001 or 2002 … I could go on.

    “it was not loyalist terrorists that the uup and dup put at the heart of government”

    Now really. I was in the UUP when the party went into coalition with Sinn Fein and on behalf of the decent people who opposed that move I think it is important not to tar every Trimble era Ulster Unionist with the pro Agreement brush. Nor do I recall any DUP (or indeed UKUP) members from that time supporting SF/IRA terrorists taking up ministerial roles in the “heart of government”.

  • eddie

    i cannot wait until the next election to see the public give their verdict on this.

    it all reminds me of the false optimism pre May 2005, how many seats were you going to win?

    and perhaps you would care to give a prediction as to how many you would win in, for example, a spring assembly election?

  • Hidden Gem

    Levi,

    Reminds me a bit of what the SDLP did with Sinn Fein in the early days…

    My thoughts exactly…, watch out Reg!

  • Ex UUP

    t was not loyalist terrorists that the uup and dup put at the heart of government in northern ireland, any time for moral objection to this sort of this was in 1997.-

    the problem with forming a government here is that it must include SF due to its electoral mandate,theres no escaping that

    but unionists have consistently rejected the PUP/UDP at the polls, but it seems the UUP feel the need for their own armed wing

  • Harry

    It’s a rhetorical strategy which allows them to equate mainstream nationalism with loyalist terrorism. This allows them to evade engagement with nationalism, deny its legitmacy and take the moral highground over ‘criminality’ within a perspective wherein there’s criminalism and nationalism on the one side and decent, upstanding unionism on the other.

    It’s the same thing they were saying eighty years ago.

  • duffy

    inuit_goddess,

    a. “Great to see Sir Reg still sticking firmly to his guns”

    Do you mean that metaphorically?

    b. “If he eventually succeeds in bringing loyalism into the process”

    Would that be the democratic process? Indeed, would that be the democratic process through which unionist voters have made clear their disdain for representatives of loyalist paramilitaries?

    Could we drop the ‘bringing into the process’ nonsense?

  • HubbleBubble

    inuit_goddess and blahblahblah—this is exactly the same sort of toadyish crap we were hearing about executive meetings in the run up to the 2005 meltdown. Rally round the leader because everything is ticketyboo. These are the same old saddoes who gave the nod to every appalling decision made by Trimble, Campbell, Maginniss etc etc—-the same people who are still running the show today. Half of the exec didn’t even turn up!

    Rearrange the chairs and continue to hum “Abide With Me” as the party sinks.

    HB

  • Ex-UUP

    Great to see Sir Reg still sticking firmly to his guns

    dont you mean the UVFs guns

  • cosmic

    “Half of the exec didn’t even turn up”

    I assure you the room was packed to capacity and plenty of opinions were voiced however unlike after other exec meetings most people seem to be keeping their mouth shut much to the disappointment of the camera men who lurked outside.

  • pith

    Talking of not turning up, anybody know why Ervine didn’t show at the Party at the Palace this afternoon?