New peers to be announced tomorrow

Well it’s been predicted for some time, Slugger noted an IT report in August last year, but the latest reports are that it will be announced officially tomorrow – Lady Paisley, Lord Browne, Lord Morrow.. and, of course, Lord Trimble. Update That’s Baroness Paisley of St George’s.. apparently..

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  • I note the bbc report mentions the delay caused by the donations issue and states that the controversial nominations have now been withdrawn.

    If my nomination for which hard cash had exchanged hands was withdrawn like that, I’d be looking for my money back. Especially as that “loan” caveat was entered, originally for spurious reasons.

    Any sign of the once putative peers looking to reclaim for breach of contract?

  • What about Lord Adams of Ballymurphy? The British surely owe the bearded one something for all that bed-fellowing during the OTR debacle and the introduction of proposals for the forced RPA, and for letting their man rise to the post of Party Enforcer over the course of a quarter-of-a-century. Ungrateful bunch, those English.

  • slug

    Gerry Adams is still an MP, El Matador, so he could not be elevated to the Lords.

  • Ah Slug- that would explain it. I reckon we give it another four years or so then 😉

  • dahm el mathador you took my point. how about Lord McLouglin of Doire

  • Keith M

    Surely nothing casts a greater shadow onto the whole sorry mess of a government elevating its cronies than the elevation of “Lord Trimble”, the most unsuccessful politicial in the history of the United Kingdom. Screaming Lord Sutch had a better claim to the title.

  • observer

    the most unsuccessful politicial in the history of the United Kingdom.

    Surley thast Paisleys claim to fame,after forty odd years of calling everyone a traitor what has this old man achieved?

    yeah nothing

  • FewsOrange

    “Lord Trimble”, the most unsuccessful politicial in the history of the United Kingdom.

    He managed to persuade Sinn Fein to accept partition and the right for NI to accept or decline a United Ireland (what used to be called by Sinn Fein “the unionist veto”)

  • mark

    Baron Fitt, of Bell’s Hill in the County of Down, Paddy Devlin CBE, Rosaleen Hughes OBE, Tom Kelly OBE, Mary McSorley OBE (departed).

    Why make up gongs? The above are the only ones held by nationalists. All SDLP.

  • fair_deal

    mark

    “The above are the only ones held by nationalists. All SDLP. ”

    Incorrect. You are overlooking the Irish nationalist, Eddie Haughey aka Lord Ballyedmund appointed by the UUP.

  • mark

    FD,

    Haughey is an unusual case given the range of parties he donated to and has received endorsement from. He was appointed to Seanad Éireann after many years funding FF but while his main endorsement to the Lords may have been through the UUP, he has been a substantial donor to the Conservative and Unionist Party proper for many years. He seems to have had many roles and donated lots of money. I don’t think he is a nationalist. What gives you the impression he is? FF don’t just appoint nationalists (or even?) btw.

  • fair_deal

    Mark

    “What gives you the impression he is?”

    His praise for the Anglo-Irish Agreement and advocacy of a United ireland when he was in the Irish Senate.

  • slother

    how did your man alderdice get one?

  • fair_deal

    “how did your man alderdice get one?”

    By doing what the government wanted during the Mallon resignation farce?

  • slother

    fair_deal

    your probably right. its pathetic to see what hoops people jump through to get those things, its reduculous.

    i have no problem with hereditary peers using their title, but politians? please. if you get bumped up to the lords you should only be allowed to use post-nominal ML (Member of Lords) after your name not Lord Look-at-me.

    the last hereditarys peers should be chucked out of the lords and ‘peerages’ as a title should either be only left to hereditarys or consummed into the honours greasey pole. if you do get do get it as an ‘honour’ you may not sit in the HoL.
    yes oxymoronic i know 🙂

    not that the honours systems doesnt need reformed too..

  • slug

    John Alderdice is a Lib Dem peer, and was given it by Paddy Ashdown, as one of the ones allocated to the Lib Dems.

  • Crataegus

    High time we elected the upper chamber and got rid of this degrading, patronising nonsense.

  • Newsnight was funny tonight. Crick and Kirsty Wark could hardly keep a straigt face because Paisley’s wife was becoming a lord. Infact Kirsty laughed out loud, and rightly so.

    They made the very relevant point that if Cherie Blair was made a lady/lord/baroness there would be a public outcry but over here we take nepotism for granted

  • Now we have the most important question – how does one formally refer to the husband of a life peer? Somehow I can’t quite see people rushing to refer to “Mr Lady Paisley”.

  • The Devil

    Mark,

    To hold a title one has to be alive at least 2 of them are dead and one of those was a member of the IRA.

    if your going to post get your facts right, or at least caution your post with “I believe or I think”

  • The Devil

    Little dickie bird tells The Devil that it is to be…

    Mick Fealty O.B.E

  • M. Gibbs

    What a crock! Monarchy is a huge joke, the Royal Family a gang of greedy clowns and perverts. The Queen of England presides over possibly the most dysfunctional family on the planet. And the House of Lords is just another extension of that charade, a place where supposedly able businessmen pay £2 million for a seat – to sit with convicted criminals like Geoffrey Archer and assorted has-beens, wannabees and twits. Wake up and smell the coffee!

  • Rory

    I believe it was Vere Harmsworth, founding father of the Daily Mail Group – Associated Newspapers, who said that if he wanted a peerage he’d go out and buy one like any other honest man. He was later ennobled as Lord Northcliffe.

    Harmsworth had a point. If one doesn’t have the brass to simply buy an “honour” then think what worm-like wriggling,fawning and obeisance must be required to earn one.

    It’s like the old saw on the superflousity of bribing an English journalist considering what the man’s willing to do unbribed.

    Sometimes I think that even were there no master class there would yet remain a slave-class waiting, ever eager to kneel and serve.

  • mnob

    Well there was a time when I would have agreed about the uselessness of the House of Lords, but without them we would all be clutching our ID cards by now …..

  • Crataegus

    Mr Gibbs,

    Titles and the land that went with them were originally to keep feudal Barons with private armies on side. Now we have appointees from various sources, and in an ideal world (like Communism) it may work and we only appoint for merit. But we don’t live in an ideal world and the system instead of rewarding merit is open to corruption and like the whole honours system should be abolished.

    Why should senior civil servants be awarded honours for simply doing their job, why not more dust bin men? The honours system breeds a subservient attitude that I don’t believe is healthy in modern outward looking society. Like much of the globalisation argument we should stop propping up outdated vested interests. The whole thing is ridiculous. Lady Paisley, says it all. Just get rid of it.

    Personally I preferred the inherited peerages to the present set up as some of the old, landed codgers were of independent spirit and batty enough to be unpredictable and many of them had a genuine sense of right and honour. We should have an elected upper house which would then have the legitimacy to occasionally cause the Commons problems.

  • Ladymuck

    I hear it is going to be Baroness Paisley

  • newsworthy

    “I hear it is going to be Baroness Paisley”

    That’s hardly the scoop of the century.

  • David Michael

    Tim Roll-Pickering

    Nearly missed the fun thru pressure of work.

    “Now we have the most important question – how does one formally refer to the husband of a life peer? Somehow I can’t quite see people rushing to refer to “Mr Lady Paisley”.

    Mister Reverend Doctor Baroness Paisley?

    At the very least 2 of those titles are risible.

  • Jack Black

    “His praise for the Anglo-Irish Agreement and advocacy of a United ireland when he was in the Irish Senate. ”

    At least one of those is applicable to Andrew Hunter, the erstwhile DUP MP for…..Basingstoke.

  • The DUP nepotism sucks.

  • David Michael

    To be fair, Watchman, name me a party that does NOT engage in nepotism.

  • Baron von Habenichts

    Gosh, Eileen is coming up in the world again. Flash back to the early-mid-1960s when the soapbox-mounted loudmouth preacher and his shrill wife rocked the foundation of landlord-unionism by getting elected to Belfast Corporation. Some time afterwards, Princess Margaret (remember her, the Queen’s chain-smoking sister who loved a drinky-poo or two?) visited the city and all the councillors had to be invited to the official function. Eileen and Ian created a great ruckus over the seating arrangement – they had been assigned seats as far as possible from the Royal One – which prompted a Dublin paper to remind the Great Biblethumper himself that somewhere in the Good Book it says something along the lines of “When thou art invited to a feast, sit thee down in the lowest place …”

    Seriously though, I almost wish they would give that old hag a big title. It might finally open the eyes of the British and help them recognise how ridiculous those “honours” and titles are.

  • Paidricín Poblacht na h-Eireann

    The idea of Mrs. Paisley being made a baroness is almost as believable as an anecdote I heard about Gerry Adams, Ian Paisley, a malfunctioning lift, some cans of beer, impotence, an alternative remedy not involving Viagra and some iron railings.

  • David Michael

    Paidricn Poblacht na h-Eireann

    Well, come on, are you going to share it??? 🙂

    BTW, fine name, Paidricn. Is it Hungarian?

  • M. Gibbs, Chicago

    Well now! See, she’s just as good as Thatcher, but not a “Brazen Jezebel”, as her hubby once styled the Iron Lady.

  • Paidricin Poblacht na h-Eireann

    Sorry David Michael, wouldn’t get away with it. Use your imagination.

    Sorry to disappoint about Paidricn being Hungarian. Actually it’s a typo – Paidricin is the correct form.

  • Rory

    While Mrs Paisley would be addressed as Lady Whatever, were himself to be ennobled, her appointment to be baroness will have no affect on his title whatsoever. In nomenclature at least, the peerage, thank God, remains resolutely sexist, so you may continue to call him Old Fartface (or whatever) as before.

  • Ken A. Biss

    She deserves any reward on earth for what she must have put up with living with the likes of him. And forget Purgatory, she’ll go straight to Heaven when she dies.

  • David Michael

    I like Paidricin, never came across it before. Padraigin yes. Hope I haven’t made a typo there 🙂

    Rory

    ” so you may continue to call him Old Fartface”

    You’ve been bugging my phone! I thought only MI5 were alowed to do that 🙂

  • Dread Cthulhu

    El Matador: “What about Lord Adams of Ballymurphy? The British surely owe the bearded one something for all that bed-fellowing during the OTR debacle and the introduction of proposals for the forced RPA, and for letting their man rise to the post of Party Enforcer over the course of a quarter-of-a-century. Ungrateful bunch, those English. ”

    Assuming that gerry didn’t burst into flames upon setting foot upon the colored carpet that seperates Commons from Lords (The English do so love their class distinctions…), at least one of the relics in Lords would drop dead of a heart-attack.