President Hain?

Also in Washington, the UUP leader Reg Empey had breakfast at the National Press Club and argued that, according to the BBC report, The US and NI voters “are fast losing patience” with the inability of the parties and governments to restore devolution. But the interesting quotes are in the UTV report, again, were he’s reported as repeating his party’s call for an interim system where the Assembly sits while a team of British ministers runs government departments until full blown devolution returned, and he compares the proposal to the separation of powers in the United States between the Presidency, Congress and the judiciary.. unfortunately he fails to mention some trifling matters such as the Bill of Rights, the written constitution and that it would, in effect, elevate Peter Hain, or his successor, to.. President Hain..The quotes from the UTV report

The UUP leader said his party favoured an interim system where the Assembly sat with legislative and financial powers while a team of British ministers ran government departments until full blown devolution returned.

He compared their proposal to the separation of powers in the United States between the Presidency, Congress and the judiciary.

“In other words the Assembly would act like both Houses of Congress, passing legislation and providing the money for the Secretary of State and his ministers who will carry out agreed policies,” he said.

“Sound familiar? You are able to run the most powerful nation on earth with this system, why can we not run a small community in Northern Ireland?”

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  • ID Lottery

    Ultonian Scottis American writes,

    Shades of Andy Tyrie, and his proposals for a Unilateral Declaration Of Independance for Northern Ireland.

  • Jacko

    Pete Baker

    I have long been of the opinion that you would be a very sharp implement in anyone’s toolbox – well spotted.
    Reg guilty, yet again, of that common politico disease, not thinking things through to their natural conclusion.

  • heck

    will we have a second ammendment in a northern Ireland bill of rights?

  • fair_deal

    “will we have a second ammendment in a northern Ireland bill of rights?”

    We can live in hope but so far it hasn’t appeared in any NIHRC draft, one example of international human rights practice they chise to ignore.

  • heck

    fair deal

    my comment was a joke. The second ammendment to the us bill of right says

    “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed”

    do you really live in hope that we have this applied to Northern Ireland.

  • fair_deal

    heck

    I am aware of what the second amendment says, thank you.

    I was aware you were joking, my reply was partially ironic.

    I would not take an absolutist position such as the NRA on the second amendment but I do believe ordinary citizens should be allowed to possess guns. Safeguards such as licencing, forensic records, limit of use to designated ranges, safety training and proper storage etc are fine by me.

  • Jacko

    fair-deal

    You had no idea what the 2nd. amendment was about.

  • heck

    Fair deal

    You and I actually agree on something. What you suggest seems reasonable to me.

    Actually a US style Bill of Rights for Norn Iron would be a step forward. It just that when it comes to the details I think a lot of people will back off.

    I am as close to an absolutist and you can get on the first amendment. That’s why I support The Blanket’s decision to publish the Danish cartoons. However how many who claim to support freedom of speech also support honest Tony’s laws against “glorifying terrorism” or support the imprisonment of David Irvine?

    How many would claim to support the 4th amendment and also support honest Tony’s big brother state?

    If the british politicians get to write a bill of rights for Nor Iron it will have so many caveats as to be worthless.

  • fair_deal

    Heck

    With you on the first amendment too. The only limit I place on it is incitement to violence and even on that I am reluctant.

    To be fair a large number of people who despise David Irving have come out against his sentence.

    On the 4th it depends upon the interpretation of “unreasonable”.

    “If the british politicians get to write a bill of rights for Nor Iron it will have so many caveats as to be worthless.”

    The good old House of Lords has been fighting the good fight on the glorification laws too and the Houses of Parliament have not been a rubber stamp process neither. (ID cards too) so you are being somewhat harsh.

    The American Bill of Rights is actually a good model as it is largely negative and individual rights rather than the positive and community rights blind alley the NIHRC has gotten itself into.

    If the NI Bill of Rights becomes a shopping list for every special interest group we might as well not have devolution as the bill of rights will dictate how resources are distributed not the elected politicians.

    Jacko

    I have read the Bill of Rights as I have studied it both at degree and masters level. I have also studied the impact of lobbying groups on the American system including the NRA. I also possess a “fake” scroll of the bill of rights purchased when I lived in america.

  • Jacko

    fair-deal

    Only winding you up.