but is he a very naughty boy?

An interesting interjection by Sinn Féin President Gerry Adams, as the searches and examination of documents and computers seized during the co-ordinated raids in Louth and Armagh yesterday continue… as noted by RTÉ – The Sinn Féin leader, Gerry Adams, has described the man linked to a number of ongoing Garda and PSNI investigations, Thomas ‘Slab’ Murphy, as not a criminal, but a good republican and a long-standing supporter of Sinn Féin’s peace strategy. He is also reported to have said that smuggling was wrong and that his party supported the pursuit of criminal assets.. and if I find the actual quotes I’ll post them. Update According to the UTV report the operation was codenamed Achilles. More RTÉ News report has the comments as they were made[RealPlayer video]I’ll just note what Adams actually said about Thomas Murphy –

“Tom Murphy is not a criminal. He’s a good republican. I read his statement after the Manchester raids. I believe what he says. He’s also, and very importantly, a key supporter of the Sinn Féin peace strategy and has been for a very long time.”

Additionally, when asked, by RTÉ’s Tommie Gorman, whether he believes Murphy’s denial of membership of the IRA Army Council, Adams said –

“If he denies being a member of the IRA, then I have to accept that.”

Further Update A longer report of Adams’ comments on RTÉ radio[RealPlayer audio file] in which he criticises the “snide coverage” as well as the manner, of the co-ordinated raids and, interestingly, while disparaging the reports of Thomas Murphy as a “super duper gang leader”, or a godfather figure, and disparaging the reports of individuals exploiting republicans, acknowledges that there are greedy people on all sides.

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  • Foolish move Adams getting involved like this as the very dogs on the street know that SLAB is up to his neck in criminal activity. The folks of Dundalk and North Louth have know about Murphys activities for years. Fighting the Brits is one thing but oil smuggling and any other kind of smuggling is out and out criminality. Slab, theres your cross border bodies now for you. Note how they waited until after decommissioning before moving on him. Slab will still walk away from this, too risky for the so called Peace Process coming down too heavy on him.

  • TAFKABO

    A tactical blunder on the part of Mr Adams.
    He has relatively little to gain from making these remarks, but they could continue to haunt him for years to come.

  • J Kelly

    The agenda here is that the brits are trying to taint slab murphy as a criminal and by extension the IRA and further the enire republican struggle. Gerry Adams is right to defend this man and dont let those behind all of this think that republicans will isolate people when they become victims of this black propganda.

  • FK

    J Kelly,
    Is there really any serious doubt that “slab” has some nefarious business dealings?
    FK

  • lib2016

    It’s possible of course, that Gerry is far too clever to commit himself like this unless he knows that Mr. Murphy has clean hands.

    Unionism has suffered before from believing it’s own propaganda – remember all that stuff about republican drug dealing which ended in McQuillan of the ARA having to admit that ‘republicans don’t do drugs’.

    I freely admit that I don’t know the inside facts here but I do know the track records of the security forces and their allegations – and it isn’t good.

    Whatever republicans as an organisation had to do during the long war is one thing but the war’s over long ago. Time for people with accusations to ‘put up or shut up’?

  • Busty Brenda

    Well now was it really meant to turn out like this? Not only the guns but the illegal gains must go to!!

    ‘Thomas Murphy is a good republican’ but then so was Mr Scappatticci. All good republicans are good smugglers, I have noticed that the illegal smokes have gone up in price, now £2.50 for twenty whereas before they could be got for £2-£2.25. still better than Gordon Browns £5. for 20!! I wonder how much they do the oil for? Peace is great except what you save on the smokes in one hand goes out in the other now all of us must pay our tv licences.

    Anyone know where I can get some of slabs oil?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    ‘The dogs in the street’, ‘everybody knows’, ‘Is there really any serious doubt’.

    The lexicon of the idiot.

  • J Kelly

    fk i dont the man or any of his business dealings but would it not be fair to say that many many people who have business interests have not always been 100% clean. Lets be honest would it surprise you if this guy evaded the odd bit of tax or the like but those without sin cast the first stone. Back to the real issue the is a black propoganda exercise against republicanism so lets see it for what it is. Fianna Fail have been up their eyes in corruption how many of their people are being investigated by the CAB. If charlie haughey was a shinner would he have been treated so lightly.

  • FK

    As I understand it the libel laws in your neck of the woods are intense. I would have to guess, if it were me, and I were not a dubious figure, I would have sued the living hell out of a good number of authors by now. So many books, some very popular, have painted “Slab” as a godfather. As a ‘victim’ he should go after them, protect his good name and put an end to such works.
    FK

  • Pete Baker

    FK

    He did sue the Sunday Times for libel when, as I recall, they reported that he was a member of the IRA Army Council.. he lost the case.

  • FK

    Thanks Pete!
    FK

  • Gerry Lvs Castro

    ”Peace is great except what you save on the smokes in one hand goes out in the other now all of us must pay our tv licences.”

    Quite agree Busty Brenda (delightful Nom De Plume — beats Middle-Class Taig any day).
    It is quite bizarre that the ‘peace dividend’ consists of us paying through the nose — water charges, huge rates, gas & electricity hikes, unaffordable housing, pointless ‘inquiries’ that cost a couple of hospital wings, health & education cutbacks and a great big money pit at Stormont.
    This place cost the British Exchequer an absolute fortune when the ‘troubles’ were in full swing — now that they appear to be over, the money has disappeared and the rest of us are getting the bill. Is this simply a case of ‘behave badly and you’ll get a bundle of money?’

    “If he denies being a member of the IRA, then I have to accept that.”

    Absolutely hilarious. Made my day.

    GLC.

  • circles

    TAFKABO – at least the ex-rir boys got their slice of the cake.
    Like your first post elpaso – I mean talk about nonsense. 3Even the dogs on the street3 like – roll another cliché out there why don’t you. And no, I’m not more convinced by the fact that you used his nickname like he was an acquaintance of yours.

  • Paul

    TAFKABO2, if I ever get charged with anything I sincerely hope you are on the jury, in fact I will demand you and ten other gullible idiots. Slab Murphy, just a gentleman farmer? Get real. We have all seen photos of oil tankers queueing up in his farm yard, no doubt if he said the drivers were all personal friends, who had called round for tea you would swallow it, not really but you would claim it was a plausible story. The reality, that the RM are up to their necks in criminality is too much of an appalling vista.
    Pete Baker, he lost the libel case but I don’t think he ever paid his costs, he just doesn’t give a shit you see, and up until now he has got away with it. Eamon Collins got his for testifying against him though, battered to death a few days before the ceasefire.

  • nutjack

    As an Englishman who hiked from Jonesborough to Forkhill to Crossmaglen just 4 weeks ago in best tweeds, i would say it’s about time Slab Murphy was put out of business. can’t say i’m going to be buying a holiday cottage to be honest but…

    if he was just a farmer why aren’t there any road signs for 3 miles around his farm? who were all those strange people who would drive past slowly checking you out, the closer you got?

    Slab Murphy sued the Sunday Times for naming him as Chief of Staff of the IRA. He lost and it cost him a fortune (1998?). Which would say to me that he IS (or was) what the Sunday Times said he is (or was).

    the man profits from the border by running oil through underground tanks either side of the border. his barns are built literally with one half in each country for claimimg livestock subsidies. he gets rich while everyone suffers.

    it’s a shame because as someone above suggested, the investigation can’t go too far for upsetting the peace process. but he really needs shutting down for the good of all parties.

    peace to you all, of whatever persuasion

    (moving to North Armagh in July and needed to see South Armagh to understand my soon to be new home)

    great site!

  • Joe

    Tafkabo

    We haven’t all seen the photographs, at least I haven’t. Can you provide a link.
    If this gentleman really is making money by taking oil into one side of his barn and then out the other, wouldn’t a simple solution be for the Irish and British governments to reconstitute the border commisiion from the 20’s to redraw the border so that all of his property is in the republic. Other anomalies could also be resolved at the same time.

  • Paul

    TAFKABO5, The ariel photos have been in the Irish Times, Indo and other newspapers. I don’t have the technical know-how to provide links, assuming the photos are online.

  • Joe

    Why does post 16 say it was posted by Tafkabo when it was me who posted?

    Joe

  • FK

    It is a glitch… everyone has to sign their names or we get lost.
    FK

  • Joe

    Thanks FK

    Joe

  • FK

    I’m a good hand w/ Google but haven’t been able to find any images of oil tankers on the Murphy farm. Not that they don’t exist, I just can’t lay hands on one. I have found a zillion references to tankers backed up…maybe “google earth” is the next stop.
    FK

  • elfinto

    Google Earth is yet more evidence that the Brits continue to spy on the people of south Armagh!

  • FK

    J Kelly,
    Are you joking? I was joking b/c Google Earth’s images aren’t real time.
    FK

  • The Dubliner

    “Slab Murphy sued the Sunday Times for naming him as Chief of Staff of the IRA. He lost and it cost him a fortune (1998?). Which would say to me that he IS (or was) what the Sunday Times said he is (or was). ” – TAFKABO

    Which, in turn, would say to all rational people that God gave you an extra chromosome.

  • FK

    J Kelly,
    Ok maybe the above logic was shaky but no reason for that comment.
    FK

  • sean

    ‘It’s possible of course, that Gerry is far too clever to commit himself like this unless he knows that Mr. Murphy has clean hands. ‘

    Indeed! Well said.

  • Realist

    “he gets rich while everyone suffers”

    Aye…Slab sure is a “true republican”.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    If Murphy has soo much wealth, pray tell, how has this wealth manifested itself?

    A vast array of agencies seem to have been arrayed against him for some time, all we seem to get is a series of fishing expeditions that have a variety of bloggers and hacks running around like headless chickens.

  • Bunter

    What relly amazes me is how!! Big Gerry can sit in front of a camera and denie everything? it just baffles the mind. Next thing he’ll be saying is he did’nt even know who Jean McConville was. How in the world does anyone think that Sinn Feinn can sit in government when they lie like a carpet

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    What really amazes me is that after decades of the so called security forces and their pimps in the media being found out lying time after time there is a body of peole still prepared to accept everything they say without question.

    We have agencies who organised the murder of their own citizens and we are expected to accept at face value anything they say when they lie like a carpet.

  • Busty Brenda

    ‘we have agencies who organised the murder of their own citizens ‘

    Do you mean the IRA?

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    I was unaware that the IRA had it’s own citizens, or are you just being a tad silly?

  • Busty Brenda

    They murdered their own volunteers, some for the British thru Scap. Weren’t those volunteers Irish citizens? Weren’t the IRA fighting for a United Ireland? Therefore it can be said the IRA murdered it’s own citizens.

    Nothing silly in that.

  • Paul

    A simple question, what would it say about the RM if Slab is found guilty in a court of law of smuggling, money laundering, diesel washing , whatever?

  • lib2016

    I’ll ask an equally simple question. How much has it affected anyone’s opinion when these accusations (re. republican drug gangs, re. Castlereagh, re. Stormont spyrings, re. Bank raids etc. etc.) have proved groundless time after time after time…….?

  • Paul

    The accusations re the bank robbery and the spy ring were certainly not groundless.Only fools and knaves continue to claim that the PIRA were not involved.That SF’s vote continues to hold up despite people knowing they are voting for thieves and gangsters says alot about the moral corruption of our political life after years of violence or threats of violence. I sincerely hope the raids at Murphy’s farm is the start of a far more robust policy towards criminality and gangsterism.