Sinn Féin must win the peace alone?

Mairtin O Muilleoir in yesterday’s Daily Ireland with a fairly unambiguous call for the IRA leave the field of play and allow Sinn Féin to continue to make its political gains at it’s previous pace.

Nothing is sacred, no group is above the democratic voice of the people. That’s why nationalists who made the war possible understand that the people’s army must make way for the people’s party. The benefits are there to be grabbed. A bigger mandate for Sinn Féin, nationalist hands on the levers of power, a chance to really make change happen.

While the IRA continues to exist, republicans are fielding two teams. Now’s the time for people of immense talent and skill to take their position with the starting fifteen. Who can say that Sinn Féin ever engaged in the political field and didn’t come out ahead? If the IRA ceases to be, it will liberate the embattled peace process, invigorate nationalists and republicans, put unionists on the back foot and focus minds on the only political show in town: fighting peacefully and democratically to secure the bridgehead of the Good Friday Agreement.

  • Dead_I_Well_May_Be

    “Sentiment and nostalgia have their place,” says O Muilleoir.

    Nostalgia for what?

  • Fanny

    “…sweated over a thousand pounder primed and ready to go in a Hiace in the garage…”

    Incredible. Does anyone at the Daily Ireland ever think it was worth sweating over dead shoppers?

  • Carrington

    Reading the article, can anyone now reasonably argue that Daily Ireland is anything but an extension of An Phoblacht?

  • spirit-level

    I hope more and more nationalists start thinking like Mairtin O Muilleoir, we might actually get somewhere.

  • Mick

    There’s a lot of man playing developing here. Please, try to stick to the politics of the matter!

  • DerryTerry

    Interesting article by Mairtin followed up by an equally interesting article by Robert Ballagh in todays edition.

    Its obvious that the discussion Adams asked for is now filtering right through Republicanism and that can only be a positive step.

  • TAFKABO

    One wonders of this statement is part of a process, setting out the ground for the IRA to announce their retirement.

    I would be more than happy to swallow my disgust at the romanticised version of a republican death squad if this was the case.

  • Davros

    The IRA should be told to go because the Irish people voted them away. The eulogy contained in this article was deeply offensive – and lays to rest any notion that the Daily Ireland was a paper hoping to be read across the spectrum.

    Would the Newsletter or Belfast Telegraph publish praise for the UVF and UDA’s equivalent role in “defending” their communities by activities that equate to the abduction and murder of children or sweating it over the Bombs that were planted in Dublin and Monaghan?”

    Thanks to you heroes in the UDA and UVF – your activities such as done by the shankill Butchers and the collusion Murders that brought the IRA to it’s Knees did us proud but aren’t needed any longer and are in the way”?

    It might be thought of as bluster, it might be like Saddam’s victory parade – to try and save face – but it’s a kick in the teeth to those whose lives were ruined by terrorism.

    Does anybody think that The Army Council will have sat down and read this leading to them changing their position?

  • Jo

    Actually, I think the highly romanticised and to many, abhorrent beginning of the article is a rather shrewdly thought-out attention-grabber and the main thrust of the article is a “farewell to arms.”

    FAR better written than An Phoblacht.

  • JD

    Excellent article, a flavour of the debate going on in Republican circles. It is obvious from previous posts that most contributors to this thread have little or no experience of the conflict, certainly as experienced by nationalists and republicans.

    The Daily Ireland is quite correct to provide some balance by articulating the experience and feelings of republicans as the views, opinions and experiences of unionists are well reheased in the rest of the media, as they also are in DI.

  • Davros

    little or no experience of the conflict certainly as experienced by nationalists and republicans.

    Considering that the 1,000 lb bomb wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between orange and green are you really unaware that the IRA killed many, many nationalists and republicans during the troubles?

  • DerryTerry

    Surely the whole point of this piece is that it was written by a Republican for Republicans. As such the world view which underpins the article will not find acceptance with non Republicans, but surely thats not the point. Much more interesing IMO is what he is saying to Republicans, and that is regardless of how the IRA is viewed, is it now a help or a hindrance?

    As to listening to the Irish people, and leaving because the Irish people told them to go, is the IRA the only armed group the Irish people have ever asked to leave?

  • JD

    Davros it is clear that people of all colours and none were killed in this conflict by all sides. However the memoirs of combatants such as Col Tim Collins,RUC members, ATO’s, UDR members and British Government ministers pass without mnch comment. Yet once a republican gives their perspective and outlook on the conflict, it becomes hopeless romanticism ignoring the brutality of war. Republicans know better than most the brutality of war and have never slow, unlike others, to acknowledge their role in this conflict.

  • Martin

    JD

    “the memoirs of combatants such as Col Tim Collins,RUC members, ATO’s, UDR members and British Government ministers pass without mnch comment”

    Thats because all those people were simply working and getting paid. They can hardly be romanticized to the same extent as the IRA man, “on the run, fighting for his country, against oppression”. I know its bullshit but it sounds good.

  • Jo

    “It’s the way ya tell them” 🙂

  • PatMcLarnon

    How dare Mairtin put across his analysis of the situation, whatabout, whatabout ………

  • Davros

    JD – I wouldn’t be grumbling if MM had this in a book. Ever hear of a publication called War News from WWII era ?

    It’s interesting – MM claimed originally that the DI was targetting young readers – and of course those who didn’t live through those days might swallow the line that the IRA were some kind of valiant Knights in Shining Armour. That strategy failed, tens of thousands of young people haven;t gone out and bought DI on a daily basis.
    These days it looks like it’s people who did live through the troubles that need to be wooed into buying the paper – and if editorials address only those who support the IRA even when they were slaughtering and crippling their own – after all there were RC victims of the IRA from the earliest days, then no wonder it’s in trouble.

  • Chris Gaskin

    I see Christopher Stalford is writing in the Daily Ireland tomorrow

    Worth a read 😉

  • Fanny

    You’re kidding.

  • Chris Gaskin

    No, I saw it in todays paper

  • Fanny

    Well I’ll be damned.
    As will Stalford.

  • Davros

    Blimey LOL I wonder how contact was made!

  • barnshee

    Sinn Féin must win the peace alone?

    They have already lost it. The DUPERS are now caught-if they want to stay the majority Unionist party they cannot allow SF in govt simple really then –no local assembly– sit and smirk– let time pass –who is going to do anything about it — soon TB and Bertie will be gone. Keep muttering about joint authority- good in parts –will move more of the protestants east of the Bann bringing the final split nearer. No lose situation for the DUPERS

  • mick hall

    The IRA should be told to go because the Irish people voted them away. The eulogy contained in this article was deeply offensive – and lays to rest any notion that the Daily Ireland was a paper hoping to be read across the spectrum.

    Davros

    Davros,
    We really are like two old boys disagreeing with each other of late, but I have to challenge you here comrade, you write that the Irish people voted the IRA-away, well people like Martin and indeed myself would-say the Irish people voted the British government away in the last all Ireland Ballot to take place on the island of Ireland. What Martin is trying to do is move the process forward, as I have demonstrated, both you and I can harp back to the past, lets not, but try and move forward. As to the newspaper the Daily Ireland, I have no doubt it is closer to your politics than any other Irish Daily. Give it a chance.

    All the best

  • finn69

    Davros, is that the same UDA that remained a legal organisation for most of the troubles, and is it the same UVF paraded every 12th as the saviours of ulster?
    in which case yes the papers and the BBC will sing their praises, i believe the Irish Times this year called the UDA bridgebuilders and peacemakers

    your point is………..

  • Davros

    people like Martin and indeed myself would-say the Irish people voted the British government away in the last all Ireland Ballot to take place on the island of Ireland.

    Mick : Considerably less than 50% voted to be rid of the British Government. That’s a rotten mandate to justify the killing and maiming of thousands of fellow Irish men and women 50 years later.

    I don’t regard those MM is praising who sweated over that 1,000 lb bomb as being any different or morally superior in any way to those loyalists who sweated over the bombs used to attack Dublin and Monaghan or those who sweated over the Omagh Bomb before it was delivered.

    Finn- I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

  • finn69

    Davros, the Govt left the UDA as a legal organisation for years its been proven that the british govt supplied weapons to the UDA, its me who doesn’t get your point about the BT or NL praising unionist terrorism. So what if the media don’t praise the sons of ulster surely providing the weapons and having a public holiday for kick the pope bands to march through nationalist areas is enough. really can’t believe you’re upset over a bit of ink.

    with regards to sweating over bombs,do you consider all bombers the same in all conflicts. Or is it just republicans you want to compare to loyalisty bombers

  • IJP

    A very clever piece by Mr O Muilleoir.

    He plays up the ‘IRA was only a defence mechanism’ line brilliantly (obviously planting a bomb in Warrington or shooting a tourist in the Netherlands was in ‘defence of Nationalist pride’, but best not mention such inconveniences…), and then calls for it to leave the field of play, so there’s something in it for everyone…

    The expectation is that the namby-pamby middle-ground will buy it, and it’s so brilliantly written that could well be the case.

    In fact, however, NI will never be at peace until it is wholly and thoroughly recognized that all terrorist activity was and is unjustified (yes that includes import of rifles in the 1910s and 1970s) and held this country and everyone in it back severely. Only then can we get serious about reconciliation and proper democracy.

  • Davros

    Good post Cllr P!

  • MARTIN

    WHY doesnt someone find out exactly what Paisley will accept regarding decommission,disbandment ,policig boards ,and the time scale for this to happen .

    for example if he commits himself to power sharing with Sinn fein say 3 months after the IRA disbands and decommissions(COMPLETE WITH HIS ALL IMPORTANT POLAROIDS)
    (1)MAKE SURE WE GET THIS FROM HIM IN WRITING.
    (2)MAKE SURE IT IS PUBLIC KNOWLEGE WHAT EXACTLY HE WILL ACCEPT.
    (3)MAKE SURE THERE IS NO AMBIGUITY
    (4)MEET HIS TERMS AND CONDITIONS

    Then if he tries to raise the bar once more as Unionists are prone to do ,he will be in a public breach of good faith,he will have publicly broken his word,and he will be exposed as the enemy of peace,that ive long suspected him to be.

    The IRA regard the Good Friday Agreement as their bottom line,if Paisley will still not participate in the treatys terms the IRA would be justified in returning to war,but I like anyone else who is sane and grew up
    during the troubles would not want that nor support it

    what Paisley ans co don’t seem to realise is that there is more than one way to skin a cat especially a bigoted cat,to quote Cicero

    Never kill a man ,but deprive him of
    all his hopes and ambitions

    and he dies not one but a thousand deaths

    the way to hurt them is through the pocket and deprive them of power

  • MARTIN

    WHY doesnt someone find out exactly what Paisley will accept regarding decommission,disbandment ,policig boards ,and the time scale for this to happen .

    for example if he commits himself to power sharing with Sinn fein say 3 months after the IRA disbands and decommissions(COMPLETE WITH HIS ALL IMPORTANT POLAROIDS)
    (1)MAKE SURE WE GET THIS FROM HIM IN WRITING.
    (2)MAKE SURE IT IS PUBLIC KNOWLEGE WHAT EXACTLY HE WILL ACCEPT.
    (3)MAKE SURE THERE IS NO AMBIGUITY
    (4)MEET HIS TERMS AND CONDITIONS

    Then if he tries to raise the bar once more as Unionists are prone to do ,he will be in a public breach of good faith,he will have publicly broken his word,and he will be exposed as the enemy of peace,that ive long suspected him to be.

    The IRA regard the Good Friday Agreement as their bottom line,if Paisley will still not participate in the treatys terms the IRA would be justified in returning to war,but I like anyone else who is sane and grew up
    during the troubles would not want that nor support it

    what Paisley ans co don’t seem to realise is that there is more than one way to skin a cat especially a bigoted cat,to quote Cicero

    ” Never kill a man ,but deprive him of
    all his hopes and ambitions

    and he dies not one but a thousand deaths”.

    The way to hurt them is through the pocket and deprive them of power.

  • Achilles

    Apply business rules to the business.
    Accountability.
    Demarcation.
    Responsibility.

    Let’s have something everyone can believe in.