Finucane inquiry granted…

The British government has given the go ahead for an inquiry into the killing of solicitor Pat Finucane.

  • barcas

    The promised public enquiry is, apparently, to be rather less than public, particularly as special legislation is deemed to be necessary to permit it to proceed. Sounds like a job for a judge with a good, reliable and discreet pair of hands. One that might have a proven record of keeping the lid on embarrassing matters (I almost wrote “to keep the protection racket going” but that might have been cynical of me). How about Lord Hutton for the job? He knows the ropes, the angles, the implications, the hows and whens and wherefores and, possibly, some of the players, too. He is well experienced and can be relied upon to arrive at the required conclusion. After all, he had recent practice.

  • Willow

    The people didnt want water rates, yet the British Government ignored them. The Nationalists wanted a Public Inquiry, and again the British ignored them. The SDLP and Sinn Fein want to keep the foundations of the Agreement but I feel the British Government will ignore them. Is it worth having an opinion in the North part of Ireland if the English Rulers decide to do what they want anyway?

  • willowfield

    We already have water rates.

    The Nationalists wanted a Public Inquiry, and again the British ignored them.

    How do you explain the fact that there’s going to be a public inquiry, then?

  • Willow

    It actually isnt a “Public Inquiry”

  • Mango

    we dont already have water rates, they are included in the domestic rates. A separate water bill isnt here already. The Inquiry is both Public and Private, for reasons of “National Security”

  • willowfield

    Just because it’s not a separate bill doesn’t mean we don’t pay it.

  • Pat Mc Larnon

    For National Security read murderous activities we don’t want you to know about.

  • richard

    “murderous activities we do not want you to know about”

    The Attorney General does not want you to know about the death of Matron Mary McGill in Suffolk January 1972.

    http//:www.matron-mcgill-decd.com/

    The NI Secretary does not want you to know how many people have died from sabotage

    http//:www.preventable terror.co.uk

  • richard

    Thank you to who ever it was from Ireland who visited the above sites.

    One of the points raised, by the McGILL decd site, is the police no go area protecting “assets” of the MI6 officers … Airey Neave, Henry Sporborg and Sue Ryder.

    Sporborg and Neave were, of course, also the sponsors of one Margaret Thatcher.

    The argument, with regard to the late Matron McGill, is that she died where there was a certainty of corrupt sudden death inquiry.

    In subsequent years efforts were made to identify other assets of Neave and Sporborg … in the context of the McGill case. One of those suspected of bearing questions, on behalf of those men, was identified circa 1981.

    He was serving with the Territorial Army based at the HQ of Army Intelligence Ashford Kent.

    In 1987 he was arrested for unlawful armed missions into Ulster and or Ireland. Yet, in spite of the possession and storage of semtex, there were no charges. Indeed he was re-issued a firearms certificate by Kent Police for 303, 762, 9mm pistol and unlimted ammo with refill.

    One of the questions in my mind is why the Pat Finucane Human Rights Centre appeared happy to go along with the Kent police unlawful operation of a police no go area protecting such a man from proper police inquiry ….

    There was a situation where paramilitaries from Kent territorial army appeared to have been armed by Kent Police issued firearms certificates and to have been conducting unlawful ops in Ulster and Ireland.

    And British Irish Rights Watch and the Pat Finucane Human Rights Centre appear to think the matter unworthy of investigation …

  • Robert Keogh

    The british government cites “national security concerns” as the reason to hold a private inquiry. How can there be national security concerns unless british state agencies were involved?

    Private inquiries are the standard british response. Spend years investigating what we know already and then don’t publish. Just like Stalker, Samson, Stevens I, II and III.

    At this point everyone who wants to know the truth about Finucane can find the evidence – the handful of pages published from Stevens III established it. Only flat-earther unionists are still in denial about the collusion between the british state and unionist terrorists.

  • willowfield

    At this point everyone who wants to know the truth about Finucane can find the evidence

    So no need for another inquiry, then?

    PS. I understand this inquiry will be public with some parts held in private, not a “private inquiry” as you imply.

  • Davros

    Why let facts get in the way of a good whinge WF ? 😉

  • Robert Keogh

    So no need for another inquiry, then?

    Does this mean you finally concede that the british state has colluded with terrorists?

    PS. I understand this inquiry will be public with some parts held in private, not a “private inquiry” as you imply.

    Hair-splitting. The british government promised to abide by the Cory report which asked for a fully independent and public inquiry. Not even parts of it should be private.

    Why let facts get in the way of a good whinge WF ? 😉

    Ah yes, another finely honed intellectual rebuttal of british state collusion with terrorists.

  • Davros

    No evidence of “British State” collusion… evidence that low-ranking individuals acted illegally.
    Big difference.

  • Robert Keogh

    Davros,

    You are incorrect. The Stevens report found significant levels of collusion between british state agencies (RUC and military intelligence) and unionist terrorists in the murder of Finucane.

    All the evidence that could be turned up in a Finucane inquiry has already been uncovered by the Stevens investigation team. Dragging out this inquiry is a tactic to delay release of the incontrovertible truth about british state sanctioned murder.

    Remain in denial.

  • Davros

    “found significant levels of collusion between british state agencies (RUC and military intelligence) and unionist terrorists in the murder of Finucane.”

    Propaganda:)

    Try this for accuracy

    found significant levels of collusion between low-ranking members of british state agencies (RUC and military intelligence) and unionist terrorists in the murder of Finucane.

    and as SF never cease reminding us , just because people who break the law (leading to murder) are members of an Organisation that does not automatically mean that their actions are sanctioned …. Does Garda McCabe ring any bells ?

  • Congal Claen

    As a unionist with a small u I genuinely don’t believe that the state at a high level colluded with loyalist paramilitaries. The reason being that there were so few republican terrorists killed. If the state was assisting I would have expected that terrorists such as Geery Adams and Martin McGuinness would not have lasted too long…

  • Butterknife

    As for the solicitor its necessary for the inquiry but I suspect it will tell us nothing new for after all it was a dirty little conflict.

  • Butterknife

    How about a judicial Review on out rates bill now that we will be getting a seperate water bill.

  • barnshee

    SF/IRA kill servants of the state(mostly by sneak up behind and shoot or bomb)
    THEN
    State (parliament, cabinet House of commons MP`s) gives authority to servants to reply in kind ?– I don`t think so
    OR
    State wrings it hands and says what terrible people (all)– seems to be the case

    What happens is that members of the organistions under attack use same tactics as SF/IRA –shock horror–I dont`t think so.
    The idea that individuals murdered under orders from “the state” is risable.

    (Not to say that there was/is a great deal of “served the Fuckers right” about)