PSNI: “There were gunmen, let’s have no illusions about this…”

A second night of rioting in the Rathcoole estate in Newtownabbey saw another attack on a bus driver and petrol bombs being thrown.

And PSNI Assistant Chief Constable Duncan McCausland has confirmed the police’s belief that the UVF were involved

ACC McCausland said the violence on Tuesday night was at a lower level than the previous night but said that was “no excuse for what happened”.

“The reality is, there were sinister elements, paramilitary loyalist elements who wanted to make a message about the police going in and searching,” he said.

“There were gunmen, let’s have no illusions about this, there were gunmen who were out on the first night, who were seen by the Fire and Rescue Service and members of the public.

“I believe they were associated with the UVF and I know it was clearly the intention of that particular organisation to make a statement and they exploited the use of young people in making that statement.

“That’s why is was stimulated on the first night. Last night was it was probably more anti-social behaviour.”

And the PUP leader, Brian Ervine, has admitted that UVF members were involved

However, Brian Ervine has said their involvement in the violence was not sanctioned by the leadership of the loyalist group.

“I have no doubt that UVF personnel were involved in the rioting in Newtownabbey,” he said.

“However the UVF did not sanction the violence.”

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  • Dan

    Do unto others as you would like done unto you. Arm the guards with petrol bombs and rifles, give them free reign to target people with similar, and then we’ll see how tough these braindead thugs are.

  • Andy W

    1 small point. Has rioting actually occurred in the Rathcoole estate?
    The pictures I have seen all seem to be from Cloughfern Corner which is definitely not Rathcoole, and would traditionally be a stronghold of another group of redundant terrorists.

  • Gerry Lvs Castro

    I would refer Dan to the events of January 30th 1972.

  • HeinzGuderian

    Bloody GOOD Sunday ?? Isn’t that a wee bit like El Beardos involvement in the abduction,and brutal murder of Jean McConville ? Or Its involvement on Bloody Friday ? In the words of Fitsy…….’ who cares’ ??

    Sauce for the goose……………

  • qwerty12345

    What EXACTLY do you mean by “Bloody GOOD Sunday” ?

  • Munsterview

    “……….There were gunmen, let’s have no illusions about this, there were gunmen who were out on the first night, who were seen by the Fire and Rescue Service and members of the public.

    “I believe they were associated with the UVF and I know it was clearly the intention of that particular organization to make a statement and they exploited the use of young people in making that statement………” PSNI Assistant Chief Constable Duncan McCausland

    And the PUP leader, Brian Ervine, has admitted that UVF members were involved

    However, Brian Ervine has said their involvement in the violence was not sanctioned by the leadership of the loyalist group.

    “I have no doubt that UVF personnel were involved in the rioting in Newtownabbey,” he said.

    “However the UVF did not sanction the violence.”

    Four posts arising from armed UVF gunmen on the streets and organizing a night of violence and mayhem !

    If the same thing happened West of the Bann, in the Ardoyne or in any other Nationalist areas just how many posts would have been clocked up by now from unionists sources ?

    This says all there is to say about the toleration of violence on the unionist side and we on the National side are supposed to take unionist concerns about dissident violence seriously ?

    Whether it is of the ‘Croppie lie down’ variety or the loyalists strutting their stuff in their own areas, there is a dual standard and most unionists just are not prepared to confront the problem of Loyalist Violence head, or indeed any other way!

  • Jimmy

    “I have no doubt that UVF personnel were involved in the rioting in Newtownabbey,” he said.

    “However the UVF did not sanction the violence.”

    Well thank heavens for that. No doubt they’ll be giving themselves a stiff talking to.

  • “I have no doubt that UVF personnel were involved in the rioting in Newtownabbey,” he said.

    “However the UVF did not sanction the violence.”

    Hmmm. A sure sign of a Mickey Mouse UVF leadership and one which doesn’t impress the volunteers/membership?

    Must try harder, boys, for it is all rather pathetic, isn’t it.

  • JJ Malloy

    There would be 4 threads with 100s of posts if this happened in West Belfast!