Three things we know about Brexit..

Nicholas Whyte reports on three things we now know about Brexit:

  1. According to Barnier the British are talking about a Canada type model, no sector by sector deals and no passporting for the financial sector.
  2. The Irish border issue is serious and as yet has no solution (which is why the Taoiseach has been upping the stakes)
  3. The emergence of news of a £40 Billion figure emerging from the British side Nicholas suggests this means there’s going to be a deal rather than no deal.

The border issue is what’s holding Phase One up. Ireland will need a concession on that. A border down the Irish Sea is not happening; for the simple reason that the DUP won’t let it happen. Looks like its solution will dictate the nature of the overall deal.

  • john millar

    “Would you grant, I wonder, the same right to the four million-strong British Muslim community should they ever seek to cleave unto a piece of the UK to form their own “nation”? For, what you are clearly arguing here is that the good, staunch Muslim people have every right to fence off their own state of “Islamic Ascendancy” somewhere on the island of Britain should they ever feel they are being attacked by their hosts. It’s unprecedented, I must say.”

    Should the muslim community been ahem “encouraged” to cluster in a specific area and had been subjected to say 400 years of murderous attacks from their (allegedly) fellow citizens secession from that body would indeed be appropriate

    PS prods seek separation not Ascendancy

  • john millar

    “That’s to be decided and worked out . Remember, even though the border will be in the Irish Sea, “NI” will still remain part of the UK. What we can be sure of, though, is the sea border provides tighter security and control at a much more affordable price.”

    If the fiscal arrangements remain as is how can the border the Irish sea?

  • Get The Grade Get The Grade

    “Should the muslim community been ahem “encouraged” to cluster in a specific area and had been subjected to say 400 years of murderous attacks from their (allegedly) fellow citizens secession from that body would indeed be appropriate
    PS prods seek separation not Ascendancy”

    Where to begin? It’s cloud cuckoo land stuff.

    The Muslims do live in areas clumped together – although, unlike the “prod” case you cite, this is mainly due to UK social/economic/housing measures rather than any form of imperial plantation as per Ireland. During the major part of the 400 years you cite, the “prods” (the minority) were the Ascendancy. You are suggesting the “prods” are to blame for then clumping all the “prods” together? It doesn’t add up – you can’t have it both ways.

    The notion that a grouping can move to a country and then decide, undemocratically, to break away from it is remarkable. I hope the Poles in your “prod” paradise don’t decide to break away from your territory when they’ve had enough!

    Thank Heaven for the GFA and fifty plus one.

  • Damien Mullan

    “The Act effectively removed the right of the House of Lords to veto money bills completely, and replaced it with a right of veto over other public bills with a maximum delay of two years (the Parliament Act 1949 reduced this to one)”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_Act_1911

  • john millar

    So far more effect than your non voting mob?

  • john millar

    Muslims live all across the UK unlike prods in Ireland
    I am unaware of 400 years of attacks on Moslems or Poles in the UK. I note your disparaging attitude to dissident minorities

  • john millar

    We are talking relative markets not pops

  • Get The Grade Get The Grade

    John, you are – with respect -not making much sense to me. Good luck to you.

    May genuine democracy and moral right- not violence – win the day.

  • Damien Mullan

    Relative to what?
    Income per head?
    Wealth?