In the wake of Manchester, the politics of #GE2017 is going to close down for a while…

Reports this morning suggest the centre of Manchester is surrounded by a two-mile security cordon. In response to the announcement by Theresa May other political leaders have followed by cancelling their campaigns, and in Northern Ireland, so is the media.

The UTV Leaders debate due to be recorded tomorrow afternoon is cancelled and the BBC is taking all talk of politics off the screens.

  • Madra Uisce

    Probably what the terrorists want. But the election will still have to be fought

  • A day’s respect. But why should democracy close down. Surely that is counter-intuitive. Best perhaps to agree not discuss the point, simply to starve the losers the oxygen of publicity. But get on with it. Election still on.

  • chrisjones2

    Has been fought …and won

  • Madra Uisce

    Well last night certainly removed the Dementia tax and Theresa Mayhem from the front pages

  • Granni Trixie

    I don’t agree. A day or so to call off campaign in respect is one thing but after that there’s still time to persuade voters especially when there are so many undecideds.

  • Vince

    On reflection it might be best for Slugger to stay quiet on the politics front for a day or two also. The jousting etc has it’s time and there are substantive issues to debate (sadly done too rarely in this place) but not for now.

  • murdockp

    It does brexit from an eu perspective into sharp focus domestically for Merkel and macron in terms of their own immigration controls.

    Put simply there have been too many instances for controls not to be introduced particularly in Germany which has to be on icis list in a year of election. Dr Merkel is smart and astute she knows votes will be forthcoming.

    This would then introduce EU and UK convergence on the key issue currently dividing them in the negotiations.

  • George

    “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.”

    The quote Merkel searched for after giving the all clear for Germany taking almost a million refugees.

  • Salmondnet

    “Refugees” who were mostly fit young men unaccompanied by families. Have a look at pictures of refugees in the first two thirds of the 20th century. Almost all old and/or female or children. Mrs Merkel is either implausibly gullible or deliberately disingenuous (and she didn’t just let them into Germany – she sought to impose them on the whole Schengen area of Europe).

  • ted hagan

    As well as a spirit of humanity and generosity, Merkel also realised that as an ageing population, Germany would need these people for its future needs. She is a wise, clever woman, and despite all the racist propaganda and handwringing, she is doing pretty well in the polls. Another body-blow to the small-minded Brexiteers, I think.

  • ted hagan

    The Manchester bombing atrocity must surely play, inadvertently of course, to the advantage of Theresa May, who will play to the hilt the role of ‘leader in time of crisis’.
    And judging from what I’ve seen, she seems to be performing pretty well.

  • Gopher

    The Brexit camp said this would happen and it did. Whether or not it would happen regardless is debatable on a message board but in an election nope.

  • chrisjones2

    13% lead …its won

  • chrisjones2

    “small-minded Brexiteers, I think.”

    Like the small minded nationalists?

  • mac tire

    Brexiteers are, for the most part, nationalists.

  • Abucs

    Seems like a lack off leadership to me from Merkel in not creating a society where more Germans want/can afford children.

  • mickfealty

    Events dear boy, events.

  • mickfealty

    I thought about that. And decided that if people were too weak willed to conduct themselves proportionately it’s probably time for them to take the next stagecoach outta Dodge…

    As a result quite a number of folks will not be re- joining us any time soon.

  • james

    You’re right up to a point, Ted.

    The problem is that the Left tend to feel the battle is done and dusted once the immigrants have been allowed in. The reality is that that is the moment in which the most important challenge of all – how to properly assimilate the refugees – begins. And the Left tend to be hopeless at that.

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Chris, the “Today” programme just the other day had a montage of ex-Prome Ministers stating “the only poll that counts is on the day….”

    The “futures market” is always going to be about speculation!

  • ted hagan

    Hmmm. Well Merkel is centre-right for a start.

  • Gopher

    She is only doing well in the polls because she is seen as the best person to get a deal with the second biggest contributor leaving the EU and large dustbin of German production. Once that deal is achieved then we will see what happens.

  • ted hagan

    Don’t you understand that the problem of low birth-rates would have started years before Merkel even sniffed power?

  • ted hagan

    With the recent elections in France and Holland, Brexiteers have seen their hopes dashed already, though that’s little comfort for we stranded Remainers.

  • Abucs

    Sure. Leadership isn’t just about avoiding problems but solving existing ones. The problem isn’t just limited to Germany either.

  • Marcus Orr

    I don’t agree that the election is a foregone conclusion for the Tories, sometimes funny things happen, especially when an early snap election is called as May did this time.
    Furthermore it is impossible that the Lib Dems will do as badly as last time round, their vote will surely be up and they’ll contest more seats vs. the Tories in the South and South-West of England.

  • Dan

    So, is Question Time from Belfast still going ahead?
    Sinn Fein will be testing out some answers to give when their hypocrisy over the Manchester bombing is exposed…..

  • LiamÓhÉ

    A poignant reminder of our past and 21 years since the centre of town was destroyed by an IRA bomb. The differences seems to be the scale and organisation of IRA attacks, no suicide attacks except by accident, and a 30-90 minute forewarning, yet we still had Birmingham and other atrocities, sanctioned or not, which darkened my childhood days living in England. The current wave of Islamist terror is more complex, with a range of real and imagined scars which feed into extremism. Working hard towards peace in the Middle-East and North Africa will help, out of enlightened self-interest as much as out of compassion or post-colonial guilt. The ideology will only be destroyed by tackling both domestic and international affairs simultaneously.

  • Nordie Northsider

    I notice that Jude Collins site is down and that a number of Facebook links to an article about Manchester have been removed. I wonder what that’s all about?

  • Salmondnet

    ” Germany would need these people for its future needs.”
    Ahh. Disingenuous it is then.
    I hope your descendants enjoy their Islamic Europe (which will of course include Ireland). – and no, this isn’t scaremongering, it is the inevitable outcome of present immigration policies and demographic trends.

  • Ciara 007

    Yes he tweeted something to that effect. I did notice the other day that he had article about British military abuse in NI, maybe that has something to do with it.

  • Deeman

    The fundamental difference is that Jihadists want to have a war amonst civilisations. they want to eradicate the non believer from the world.
    The IRA, loyalists and british had a squabble over a small piece of land. Comparing the two situations is pathetic political point scoring and disrespectful.

  • Nordie Northsider

    Yeah, there was an article titled ‘Manchester: what they told us, what they didn’t tell us’ too. Mind you, Jude tweeted that it was a Malware attack that closed the site down.

  • LiamÓhÉ

    The results closer to home are similar, and both emerge from grievances, which in the jihadist case are infused with fundamentalist religious beliefs. The bombings receded from extreme nationalists and marxists, for the most part, because 9/11 and islamist attacks created wholescale revulsion in the supporting populations or networks. These new, more barbaric, attacks created a huge feeling of ‘awkward’.

  • mjh

    Totally agree.

    I feel very, very uncomfortable that we appear to be playing right into the terrorists’ hands. A period of respect is right – as occurred for 24 hours after the murder of Jo Cox. But after that we have a positive duty to continue to conduct our democracy with undiminished vigour.

  • Ciara 007

    I believe it’s cancelled

  • Zorin001

    I’ve seen this Islamic Europe argument before, break down for me exactly how its going to look? What type of time frame are we talking about? Is it majority Sunni or Shiite? What about the status of minority faiths? Are we talking about a United Caliphate of Europe or individual Nation states?

  • Gopher

    I’m not so sure the European side has ran its course, Culturally one did not expect the Dutch or French to vote other than remain.

  • Zorin001

    The shambles around the “Dementia Tax” shows that May has her weaknesses, and she is not the most comfortable or empathic performer in front of the public. That could come into play before the end of the campaign.

    Saying that she is likely to stick to Brexit and security/terror as the main issues for the last 2 weeks of the campaign as those are strong platforms for her. Rightly or wrongly she will make capital out of yesterdays events and stick it to Corbyn over national security.

  • ted hagan

    I thing when it comes to hypocrisy and terrorism there are few innocent parties in the West.