Jim Wells: Has he damaged the DUP? UPDATED

Wells

Any hopes that the DUP had that last night’s ill-judged comments by Health Minister Jim Wells would be quickly forgotten appear to be fast receding.

If anything the ‘apology’ by Mr. Wells betrays ignorance on the part of the Health Minister more than anything else.

Sadly the PSNI have now confirmed that they are now investigating comments made by Mr. Wells’  –  perhaps the new laws suggested by the Ulster Fry would be more appropriate.

UPDATE: Tonight (Sunday April 26th, 2015) the PSNI have confirmed they are investigating another ‘incident‘ involving Mr. Wells.

After initially denying making the comments Mr. Wells issued a statement on Friday morning saying:

I accept that one line of what I said caused offence and deep concern. I regret having wrongly made that remark about abuse and I’m sorry those words were uttered. The comment did not reflect my view nor that of my party

First Minister Peter Robinson was quick to defend Mr. Wells’ apparent  lack of knowledge:

 

So that’s that then. Or is it?

The DUP – like their presumed political polar opposites Sinn Fein – have endured a year of political controversy; from Pastorgate, the Red Sky issue, party funding, the row over the so-called ‘gay cake‘ and Paul Givan’s ‘conscience clause‘.

Neither party has appeared to suffer in terms of popular support.

Why should it be any different this time? Has Jim Wells actually done any damage to the DUP cause?

There are a number of factors to consider:

1. THE WESTMINSTER ELECTIONS

The DUP have gone to great lengths to stress their potential influence in the likely event of a hung parliament., producing a five-point plan outlining what they would expect in order to work alongside either a Labour or Conservative government. But how realistic is this aspiration?

Conservative Party

David Cameron speaking on BBC Newsbeat totally disassociated his party from the views of the DUP on LGBT issues. Mr. Cameron, however, did not explicitly rule out working with Peter Robinson’s party.

https://audioboom.com/boos/3111643-cameron-i-totally-disagree-with-the-dup-on-this-lgbt-issue

Liberal Democrats

The LibDems have set up a spoof ‘Blukip’  website warning of the dangers of a a potential Conservative, UKIP and DUP alliance.

This afternoon Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg slammed the “backward” views of the DUP but markedly did not rule out working with them in the event of a hung parliament:

 Labour Party

Despite the Labour Party echoing the sentiments of the LibDem ‘Blukip’ warnings, especially through the Daily Mirror, Ed Miliband has so far not ruled out working with the DUP.

DUP2-01

Speaking on BBC Newsbeat on Friday Ed Miliband said he would “think about” the issue:

 

Verdict: The jury is out. It will be difficult for any supporters of the three main parties to countenance forming a a pact of any kind with the DUP but neither David Cameron, Nick Clegg or Ed Miliband have so far ruled out the possibility

2. THE UNIONIST ‘PACT’

Perhaps the main beneficiaries of Mr. Wells’ comments will be Naomi Long and opponents of Jonathan Bell in South Belfast.

There has been a common misconception that the 7,305 UUP voters who backed Trevor Ringland in 2010 will simply transfer to the DUP after the UUP/DUP pact. This is presumptuous to say the least.

It could be the case that UUP voters have more in common with incumbent MP Naomi Long than challenger Gavin Robinson. Mr. Wells comments could be the deciding factor in who they decide to back.

Similarly in South Belfast Jonathan Bell, who may well have been depending on ‘soft’ unionist votes in his quest to dislodge Dr. Alasdair McDonnell,  could be similarly compromised. Given Máirtín Ó Muilleoir’s energetic campaign and his incredibly popular tenure as Lord Mayor, could a huge upset be on the cards?

Verdict: Bad news for the DUP. Party strategists may have severely underestimated the ‘soft’ unionist vote. Robinson remains in pole position in East Belfast but Bell could be irrevocably damaged. Elsewhere Jo-Anne Dobson could yet spring a surprise on David Simpson. 

3. INTERNAL PARTY RELATIONS

The DUP is not the happy ‘family party’ it once was. The comments of Eileen Paisley on “the mighty Dodds” are indicative of this:

Last night Pam Cameron MLA tweeted her disquiet at the remarks made by Jim Wells:

Pamela Cameron

In March North Belfast MLA Paula Bradley was critical of Gregory Campbell‘s comments on the Irish language and said that the DUP should be more “tolerant” on marriage equality:

Paula

Verdict: The cracks are showing. The attempted coup by Edwin Poots against the Robinson leadership backfired but there is undoubted disquiet amongst some in the DUP camp.

In answer to the question Has Jim Wells damaged the DUP? the answer must be a resounding YES. Not only has he damaged the party but surely in the grand scheme of things such attitudes not only damage his party but also the reputation of Northern Ireland on the world stage.

We do not live in isolation; we are under the scrutiny of the world’s media, potential investors and those thinking of Northern Ireland as a tourist destination.

To render it in biblical terms:

Proverbs 12:18 “There is one whose rash words are like sword thrusts, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.”

 

 

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  • Reader

    If Wells thought he was correct in what he said, then he would also feel he was right to say it. Many of the people criticising him in this thread would defend their own right to utter unpalatable truths.
    But it turns out that he was badly wrong; so now he needs to retract, apologise, and explain why he shouldn’t be regarded as (a) someone who just makes up nasty stuff as it suits him, or (b) someone so guilty of poor comprehension skills as to be unfit for office.
    I don’t think he is going to manage all of the items in the above list.

  • kalista63

    If someone on here claimed there was evidence for this or that, the very next post would be from another poster, rightly, demanding they show evidence and expecting it to be from a reasonable source.

    What’s more, as the Health Minister he’s expected to be in the prime position to have such information in the run up to a vote on the matter.

  • Carl Mark

    one way to stop threads like this would be for unionist politicians to stop saying the sort of things that this thread is about.
    shooting the messenger wont work.
    JW said a very nasty and silly thing, then pathetically claimed stress as the cause.
    This is of course ammunition for those who would rather the DUP done badly at the election.
    As a nationalist this has of course helped but you cant blame that on nationalists, it was JW wot done it not GA and I am also quite sure that many of the people offended by his outburst are unionists. you have to admit ,Alliance, the SDLP, and SF must have laughed their heads off and the UUP must be a bit embarrassed with the pact by now!

  • Carl Mark

    but the chicks turn them on! is that what your saying.

  • Reader

    So do you think Poster #1 would normally run through the checklist I offered when failing to respond adequately to Poster #2?
    I am asking for higher standards from politicians – especially ministers.

  • Turgon

    To continue my observations from before. People are horrified that the DUP have the health ministry. It is claimed that this is because of Wells’s and before him Poots’s views. Worth noting, however, when Poots was first appointed and approved the Altnagelvin cancer centre everyone was delighted and praised him as opposed to McGimpsey.

    Now that the DUP might actually be willing to help drive through the needed health reforms here (though I am still dubious they really will do what the Donaldson review and all the previous reviews recommended) there is overwhelming excitement and demands that Wells resign because of his admittedly ill conceived, inaccurate and indeed offensive ideas about homosexuals as parents.

    This looks somewhat like a cover to attack Wells for trying to do what is actually needed. This is especially so in the location Wells made his remarks: South Down. Admittedly Wells has handed his opponents an enormous stick to beat him with.

    We need to ask which is most important: fixing the longest waiting lists, worst availability of life saving cancer drugs, worst A+E performance and worst cost efficiency (with largest proportion of managers) in the UK: things the health minister can affect. Alternatively we can worry about assorted views about homosexuality (and previously Poots’s views on the fate of dinosaurs) which he cannot enact anything of major substance on: homosexuals donating blood is not actually the most pressing issue in the disastrous state of the NI NHS.

    Everyone knew the sorts of views that most DUP members held. Despite that Health was the penultimate department chosen passed over by Sinn Fein, the SDLP and UUP. Had the other parties been so concerned about the DUP getting health it was well within their power to prevent that happening.

  • hugh mccloy

    Ask that question in a week when the sheep are back grazing

  • Carl Mark

    Joe, think about what you just posted!
    Is the best unionism can do is point at the Shinner’s. is that the best vote catcher they have.
    None of the unionists parties have clean hands regarding terrorists indeed at the moment the DUP/UUP/OO are all in a pact with terror groups which have according to the Chief Constable been responsible for 15 shootings in the past year.
    Do you think many have not noticed this.
    also has unionism no positive message to put forward, must it be defined as merely anti SF?

  • Carl Mark

    care to elaborate!

  • Carl Mark

    why! if they are held in equal esteem and openly gay as you claim, then surely this would show that the OO is not the fundamentalist intolerant grouping I am sure many believe it is.
    the OO having a openly gay spokesman would help its profile no end and anybody lambasting them or the OO would I am sure get the same response JW got for his homophobia.
    oh and is this the same OO that JW and pootsie are members off?

  • Joe_Hoggs

    I have already stated that I don’t agree with what JW said, however across the board we have poor politicians.

  • Carl Mark

    no I think he is shocked that the gay men in the OO are out and accepted, we all know that the OO like the DUP and the rest of society have gay men it.
    the big surprise (and breaking news) is that the OO is cool with it.
    I look forward to seeing the first all gay lodge walking to the field to the cheers of their fellow fundamentalist Christian Orangemen.

  • Granni Trixie

    It was the sentiment and false claims of support from research which astonished people not a few clumsy words. Good that the Safeguarding Board for NI has come out to refute his assertion. Would like to hear from Children’s Commissioner on this one too.

    Incidentally, speaking to someone who was at the event, Wells not only got to finish his “sentence” but he repeated it.

  • Granni Trixie

    As I mentioned above the Safeguarding Board NI put out out a statement saying that there is no basis of fact to support Wells assertion. I am technically challenged hence cannot include the link but I’m sure you can access through Google.

  • Granni Trixie

    I am astonished …R U joking? If not you are certainly educating me.

    Wkd be interested at gay OO people’s response to Wells comments. Does a policy of Don’t ask,don’t tell operate? Good to know that although Catholics arent allowed to join OO, gay people may. O and does that include lesbians …Transexuals? The mind boggles at the internal cultural pressures.

    I’m genuinely interested (genuinely amused also).

  • John Collins

    Where would you accommodate the views of Iris Robinson on homosexuality in that analysis?

  • Robin Keogh

    I am not sure the greens were even around in the eighties which is when gay equality became part of SF pokicy platform

  • kalista63

    America’s freehold system means there are some, many in fact, universities there with agendas that knock out ‘academic studies’ to fit their agend? Add to that, the Caleban types are tight on a global scale. Here, we have freehold churches, the worst of whom are amalgamated to afore mentioned universities and similar churches.

    I’ve worked with people who attend such churches and they are well drilled, well resourced and fed a constant stream of updates on information to fill out their position.

    I say all of the above because, yes, Wells may well have read academic papers that support his position. As an individual, or even as a MLA, he’s entitled to quote Viz if he wishes, as a minister he ain’t.

    As a republican I have never, nor would I ever post a link to An Poblacht, for example. Rightly, it would be do ised just as I dismiss most News Letter articles. I’m straying but my point is that there are resources, often seemingly credible, that can support any argument, even some vile stuff.

  • Carl Mark

    Old Mort has a very valid point, it not homosexuality makes the DUP angry, it’s homosexual men!
    Rarely seem to complain about gay women.
    But I always thought that this whole anti gay thing was less to do with the bible and more to do with the sexual Precedence’s of the homophobic.
    And I don’t think we can count Iris as relevant in any way, if we took all the bible as litterly as fundies take those passages they approve off, then dear we Iris would be classified as a adulteress and stoned .

  • chrisjones2

    Errr the Larne guns were to be used to fight the British if they imposed Home Rule

  • chrisjones2

    Prosecuted for what. At the time it wasn’t illegal to import or hold the guns. You could happily have a machine gun without need of a licence

  • mickfealty

    Yes, and I do use them. Generally I do it only after giving people a lot (maybe too much rope). Being a blogger for Slugger is not an exemption, as Turgon can attest.

  • mickfealty

    I hear what you say Robin. But the controversy has an abuse component to it. People are just pointing out that there are an awful lot of beards at this public stoning…

    http://goo.gl/JD6P6e

  • Robin Keogh

    The abuse componant was not the central issue of the thread. It was not even presented as a fundamental part of the original post. The issue was solely around the claims made by a political representative regarding why gay relationships are innapropriate And the affect those comments might have on his party support base. It was slugger who throw the abuse spanner into the works dragging people back to the usual themmuns and ussuns argument when the discussion had been showing surprising cross community allies on the original topic. The so called abuse cover ups have been described as a very serious issue, not merely a side component of some other discussion.

  • Chingford Man

    Oh, it was the “sentiment”, was it? Nothing whatsoever to do with being predisposed to twist words that may or may not have been poorly judged (I haven’t seen a transcript of everything he said) and then retail it as the scandal of the century?

    I’m a member of UKIP and the same card is played against my party at every opportunity by your ideological cousins on the mainland. It happened to Mark Reckless when the lefties twisted his words at a hustings to infer he wanted immigrants repatriated. Then he was comfortably re-elected a couple of days later.

    Oh, I’m sure the Children’s Commissioner will have his/her opinion, and given the NI quangocracy is riddled with political correctness, I wonder what it will be.

  • Chingford Man

    Except he didn’t. And if you’re so sure he did, maybe you can produce a full transcript of what he said.

  • puffen

    This man is my boss, and I suspect Turgons as well, apart from anything else, is he up to the job?, He should not have allowed himself to be diverted,down a cul de sac, when he holds such an important portfolio, why was he standing fo Westminister in the first place, he has enough to be doing, in the Day Job.

  • Gaygael

    Green were formed in early 80s and the various left groups had already moved to queer liberation.
    Greens brought the first equal marriage motion to the assembly in 2011/2012. Sinn Fein supported them shortly after in September 2012. So they weren’t first. But second will do.
    And yes sinnfein have been broadly very good on lgbt issues. The best of the big five.

  • Pasty2012

    This is terrible people going about this when British People are denied the right to British Austerity by Sinn Fein. DUP MP’s, MEP’s and their families are suffering from having to pay 40% tax which if Labour get into power will rise to 50%, and the People of Ulster are being denied their right to play their part in British austerity and have their in and out of work benefits cut by 30% like the British people in England, Scotland and Wales. All this fuss about a few words said in jest when there is a great deal more a stake – No Traditional Parades through Nationalist areas, No Union Flags flying over Government building on the Falls Road and every lamp post.
    Have you the media no sense of what is important to the people of Ulster ?
    Vote DUP – Vote Tax Cuts, Benefit Cuts and New Flags for every lamp post in the UK 3 times a year.

  • Robin Keogh

    I didnt realise that turgon was associated with such a nakedly sectarian grouping, explains a lot.

  • Robin Keogh

    I was more or less referring to the bigger parties

  • Robin Keogh

    Thank you joe i knew you would agree with me

  • Zeno

    “Gay marriage is the work of the Devil.”
    “Gay adoption is a form of child abuse”

    Answers on a Postcard please, and it wasn’t any of the DUP.

  • Zeno

    Comon………. have a guess.

  • murdockp

    Personally I don’t think he has damaged the DUP. Most of their supporters are anti gay, Irish and immigrant so they are not gong to loose supporters or voters.

    If anything it identifies the need for a centrist party.

  • murdockp

    They don’t, they are much worse than the BNP, anyone who gets their policy from a 2000 year old book and des not believe in science is deeply troubling.

  • BetsyGray

    Some food for thought Mick..
    “stupid and groundless speculation “..really..?… Eamonn may disagree……
    http://eamonnmallie.com/2015/04/will-middle-class-unionism-vote-dup-and-will-middle-class-nationalism-vote-sinn-fein-in-south-belfast/

  • puffen

    A mothers love is a blessing, thank god for her, single mothers good, two daddies, jury is out|

  • Carl Mark

    So your saying that there. Is another crowd of small minded hatefilled homophobes out there! Hardly news is it. Of course it makes absolutly no difference to the fact that JW made a complete fool of himself, quoted facts that were untrue and tried to blame it on his wife’s sickness.

  • Carl Mark

    So not peters or the dups Fault that the person they appointed to the post of health minister is à badly informed homophobe, it all down to themmuns for not stopping them appointing him.
    That has to be both the most dishonest post I ever read and the most ridiculous piece of whataboutry i have ever read.

  • Zeno

    Oh yeah I’m with you, I agree I just thought that it was quite funny that it was the Pope who said that (before he became Pope).
    My view is our political leaders are treating the electorate as morons, and the electorate are behaving like morons. The DUP have zero chance of sharing power with the Tories, Sinn Feins manifesto is complete fantasy, but both have enough standing order votes to keep them in power and there is fk all we can do about it.

  • Carl Mark

    Are you really surprised that the mutters in the catholic church are the same as the nutters in the DUP ! Prod fundies are mirror images of. Taig fundies.

  • Carl Mark

    “Your ideological cousins on the mainland” do you mean German, France or some other country on the mainland, you are aware that GB is just another island just 21 miles from one of the biggest landmasses on the planet so I am sure that you realise the difference between a island and a continent.
    Reminds of the famous headline in the times circa1900 ,: CHANNEL FOGBOUND EUROPE ISOLATED!

  • Zeno

    Not surprised at all. But worth pointing out in my opinion.
    Both groups were indoctrinated since birth. They can’t or won’t take the step away from it. I put it down to fear.

  • Carl Mark

    Or the inherent tendency of the small minded to attack those who are vulnerable or different.
    The “it not me that hates them its god” is just a way of justifying there intolerance.

  • Zeno

    I don’t think people are born small minded. They are made that way by peers and parents. Extremists are manufactured and used.

  • Carl Mark

    No of course small mindedness is the result of nurture not nature.

  • Chingford Man

    I meant Great Britain.

  • Carl Mark

    If you haven’t seen a transcript of what was said, then you do not have the full facts ! Not that it has ever stopped you but would you not be better getting 5he full facts before you comment!

  • Carl Mark

    Then way did you not say the bigger island! Really calling GB the mainland is so little Englander . try to be a bit less lazy with your geography , if you don’t know the difference between a island and a continent you will. just look foolish.

  • PeterBrown

    CM are the facts untrue (genuine question as any reports I have seen, although perhaps not objective, appear to support his assertion about non traditional relationships although the biggest issue is not with gay couples but cohabitation with a non genetic relative)?

  • Chingford Man

    You critics have to prove what Wells said, not that I should have to prove that he didn’t. Shouldn’t you be addressing your comment to the other people commentating who also haven’t seen any transcript but who have still taken Wells to task?

  • Chingford Man

    Whatever.

  • Sliothar

    I think Clint Eastwood should direct a new movie:
    The Pillock Jamesy Wells.

  • Carl Mark

    I think the “not objective” bit of your post is the relevent bit.
    There is no evidence that children brought up by same sex parents are in any way disadvantaged by this.
    Perhaps you could ask those who claim that same sex marriage is harmful to the children.

  • Carl Mark

    Am wells admitted he said it and claimed stress. Is that good enough for you!

  • Carl Mark

    How can you expect people. to take. You seriously if you can’t get even basic geography right!

  • Chingford Man

    Wells admitted that he used the wrong words under stress. Stop lying about what he said.

  • Chingford Man

    Whatever.

  • Practically_Family

    Probably not as potentially damaging locally as their reaction to the arrest and charging of a former soldier for the murder of John Pat Cunningham.

    The failure of the DUP to react to what are seen as “themmuns gets everythin’, ussuns gets nathin'” issues in the past (which in fairness, its one step off impossible for them to do) has been their greatest bone of contention with their …Followers.

  • Carl Mark

    Got it.. No need for accuracy then. Like the rest of your posts!

  • Carl Mark

    Im lying. Please prove that. Are all thenews reports lying as well. You seem to be the only person who could not make out what he was saying.the

  • Eddie Quinn

    The evangelistic Christian orientated political party called the DUP will one day flounder . I’m a British citizen who also happens to be atheist through choice and the use of common sense .
    Trying to find a party in N. Ireland that is concerned for the welfare of ALL and supportive of their lifestyles is most difficult . As a lifelong Glasgow Rangers supporter I’ve been forced into giving my support to the Green party

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Could not agree more, Joe, it’s just that both sides play the “my side right or wrong” card all too often with opaque spectacle lenses trained at their own people and microscopes on their opponents. Each of us needs to be ready call out our own people on instances of silliness or unpleasantness, especially those that show a minister as selective in who and what he represents. We have a long way to go before this will become habitual in our politicians. But as Mick says above in support of Turgon’s important qualification, we also need to look beyond the obvious and suss out secondary motives for attacks on the sort of gaff from narrow mindedness that is endemic to our political culture.

  • PeterBrown

    In terms of not objective surely the statistics are objective (and I haven’t seen anyone contradicting the generalised traditional marriage statistics) its just the clumsy / subliminal / explicit link to homosexual couples (depending on your perspective) where the statistics are not there that was the problem?

  • mickfealty

    LIsten I actually had a complaint against Turgon last night that he wasn’t keeping within the unofficially designated bounds of the story. It had not even occurred to the complainer than such a complaint could not and would not be upheld under Slugger rules.

    Outlawing reference to SF’s position on child sex abuse which is to provide aid and to support abusers inside the movement, (whilst decrying the crime in its generality) is the equivalent of forcing everyone to wear a beard. It’s a key Slugger strength that we never entertain such political attempts to re-set the playing field.

    I’ve been under no doubt that the DUP have a big problem with LGBT folk in Northern Ireland far far beyond. And I agree with Alan that they will need to do what every other Irish political party is doing which is to try to re-define the whole issue and bring it into the arena of social conservatism.

    They are hampered in this by a highly fundamentalist activist base. But then according to SF child sex abuse is only an issue when anyone and everyone does it. That is truly, in the purely old fashioned sense of the word, queer.

  • Joe_Hoggs

    None of which Sinn Fein give a Tinker’s damn about in FST as has been evident via the loss of so much during their reign of terror here.

  • Joe_Hoggs

    Thanks for that great response Turgon. I would agree with about 99% of what you said. Some points I would add, I think children with loving parent fare best whether they are the biological parents or not. A case in point would be Tom Elliott (UUP), someone I have some personal knowledge on and I believe both he and his wife are excellent parents.

    A final point I would make is we’re both Unionist and both Orangemen and homosexuality doesn’t always fit comfortably within our surroundings. This is something we must change, one thing I agree with more than anything was out oath in the Orange that is often forgotten about which is “Civil and Religious liberties for all, special privileges for none,” we have to protect all members of society including the LGBT community.

  • Carl Mark

    so show us your proof! bet you don’t have any because as several people have pointed out it doesn’t exist.

  • Mirrorballman

    I enjoy visiting Slugger from time to time but the comments sections are becoming more hostile than ever before. Its beginning to look like the comments section of the Newsletter website…

  • PeterBrown

    http://www.nspcc.org.uk/globalassets/documents/information-service/research-briefing-people-who-abuse-children.pdf p2-4 and probably less objectively http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1997/05/bg1115-the-child-abuse-crisis although the statistics are also 20+years old and the article nearly as old but have the statistics changed have the statistics changed? There are other studies too but googling for this may not be the best option!

  • Zeno

    “This is terrible people going about this when British People are denied the right to British Austerity by Sinn Fein.”

    No one knows Sinn Feins stance on Welfare reform. They don’t even know themselves. One day they are claiming they got a great deal for the people and a couple of days laters they decided it wasn’t a great deal at all. But we do know as fact that Sinn Fein signed up to borrow £700 million of the Brits to put 20,000 local public servants out of work. That is 20.000 local jobs gone forever. We also know they want to cut Corporation Tax and put even more money into the pockets of rich businessmen and fund that by cutting public spending.
    What else are they going to save us from? Parades? There are an awful lot more now that there ever was before SF saved us from Parades. Flags? I’ve never seen so many since they saved us from that.

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Thank you Joe, and also Turgon for his serious and closely argued attempt to put what I feel to be his sincere convictions forward here. The thread has sadly been thick with acrimony and simplification, but there are very serious points that both you and he are trying to honestly address. I am glad that you reminded both him and all those who may not know about the affirmation of “Civil and Religious liberties for all, special privileges for none,” something our shared Planter blood (well, at least it forms a sizeable part of my ancestry!) has frequently forgot, but that Liberal universal respect/Enlightenment strain is one of the few great gifts the seventeenth century conflicts have given us, as against this other “gifts” of seemingly unending conflict. For most on either faction of our community it will come as some surprise to discover that this policy of toleration and mutual respect did not find its clearest and most thorough expression through the Prince of Orange but was most fully proposed as policy earlier by our fellow Scot, James II & VII:

    http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674073098

  • Catcher in the Rye

    Absolutely. So maybe it might be a good idea to encourage people to vote for your candidate on the back of what they will actually do which is better, rather than instructing them to be afraid of Sinn Féin ?

  • Joe_Hoggs

    I feel Tom has and is running a positive campaign in FST focused on representation, jobs, investment and progress. I just hope that people respond to their needs rather than their prejudices.