If budget cannot be set, Executive will have to get on with Sinn Fein’s cuts…

Simon Hamilton on Radio Ulster this morning

“If we do overspend, which now looks likely, and not to the tune of a couple of million pounds but around £200 million possibly of a breach of our budget, the least worst consequence of that is the Treasury will take whatever much we overspend off our budget next year and, as everybody knows, our budget next year is already under incredible pressure, not least because we face a further £114 million worth of fines because of welfare reform and not moving on that legislation.”

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  • Hiram Morgan

    Belated version of Brussels cuts to ROI budget, only through London!

  • Tacapall

    Sure the Irish government nor the Americans will be allowed to interfere in the internal business of this part of Ireland either so say the DUP but isn’t it lucky this welfare crisis came along and theres no more money for HET, Police Ombudsman investigations, delayed inquests etc it gets a lot of people off the hook, like the British government and all those RUC Special branch officers and their superiors, loyalist and republican agents of the state etc. but sure that massive policing bill up at Camp Twaddle has no bearing on anything has it Mick ?

  • barnshee

    I suggest you revisit the “Sutton” index (http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/sutton/ )and examine the unsolved murders and establish exactly “who” is being let off the “hook”

    The cross tabulations are particularly informative

    http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/sutton/crosstabs.html

    To examine further try:-
    http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/victims/mckeown/index.html to see the methodolgy as murder gangs massively ” outscore” anyone else as they shoot people in the back or blow up children

    Examine further the numbers of “unsolved” murders indeed it “gets a lot of people off hook” and indeed is heavily biased against some sections of the community (Hint it ain`t the cops)

  • BarrelOfPorter

    Wonder what the effect would be of Stormont going to the wall on the general election campaigns across the water?

  • Reader

    Do you have a cheap way to deal with Twaddell? Because that’s what we are looking for right now.

  • Roy Reilly-Robertson

    If Stormont went to the wall before the General Election it is doubtful that many would notice, until the Civic Disturbances broke out. NI is not Scotland and has no land border with England and no demand from the people in England that it remain welded to the present Constitutional set up. Things have moved on and the people who seem not to be in the picture here are the ‘graduated response Unionists’ who who are simply out of touch with how the rest of the UK views them.
    All three Governments (British, Irish and US) have very different and divergent agendas when dealing with NI now and while all want settled Administration all have other more pressing demands on their political attention than the demands of NI for attention.
    The difference now is the War IS Over and more pressing matters occupy the Governmental minds.
    All will have looked at the present static state of affairs and may be ready simply to allow the Institutions to fail and look to the new sheet of paper that situation would then present.

  • BarrelOfPorter

    If it happens though, civil disturbance is surely very close behind. Civil disturbance in fact might be the least of it. It would be part & parcel of institutional failure here.

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Thanks, Hiram, for pointing that out!

  • Neil

    Some people were kind of hoping the minister of DSD might move them off the illegally occupied land, owned by the NIHE. But then we all know Brother McCausland wouldn’t countenance that idea, and I suspect his replacement will be equally negligent.

  • BarrelOfPorter

    I believe that there are several people locally who could resolve it for the price of a couple of litres of unleaded and a three for a pound lighter. Perhaps if the absence of a budget for policing the site continuously in order to prevent that shade of “solution” were stressed to the protesters a more equitable and even cheaper resolution could be found?

  • Tacapall

    Barnshee I old enough and wise enough now not to take any notice of who Cain points the finger at for what murders, recent revelations have shown who the puppet masters were and none of that is recorded by Cain, like those 120 odd people murdered by the Glenanne gang, or those 20 odd people murdered by Mount Vernon UVF I could go on but Im sure you get the picture – Those that pull the strings are just as guilty as those that pull the trigger.

  • Tacapall

    No not really Reader and why would I care I hope they keep biting the hand that feeds them there’s no such thing as an unlimited purse and Stormont is nearly bankrupt as it is im not surprised they’re frustrated up there but all they have to do is talk to the residents of Ardoyne but thats too expensive in pride money isn’t it.

  • Reader

    So, are the police currently there to protect the protestors from the locals or vice-versa?
    Giving people a free hand on the interfaces has not normally worked out well.

  • Reader

    Are you absolutely sure that eviction is the cheap option?

  • Reader

    More likely a period of direct rule to sort out all of the issues that the executive has failed to deal with and balance the budget.
    Maybe kick the local politicians in the nuts a few times – Rates, Water Rates, blood donations, abortion, university fees, equal marriage, fracking.
    Then, when the naughty children have learned their lesson, some low-powered talks for the loook-of-the-thing. Then everyone goes back in to the Assembly to collect their salaries and make another mess.

  • sean treacy

    Mick ,I see you have now formally adopted DUP speak with your ” Sinn Fein’s cuts ” nonsense.

  • BarrelOfPorter

    More the former I’d have thought. But sure, if the money’s not there… we’ll soon find out.

  • Neil

    Pretty certain. 900,000 per month is a lot of money compared to a bulldozer. Even if we tack on a couple of million to police the reaction of the Christian protestors.

  • barnshee

    “Civil disturb” as much as you want
    HMG has finally realised it pays for the Cess pool that is NI
    Fart and it will come out of the block grant. You can starve as far as GB is concerned

  • barnshee

    none

  • Morpheus

    Lord save us from #ShinnerCuts or variations thereof 🙂

  • Reader

    Well, fair enough. After all, Sinn Fein would be perfectly willing to pan the DUP for welfare cuts, so why shouldn’t Sinn Fein be panned for departmental cuts (the only alternative)?
    The next election – public sector workers vs. welfare claimants.
    Each political party gets to choose their target demographic, starting now.

  • BarrelOfPorter

    How about a 200Kg NIANFO fart in the City district?
    How much is that worth?

  • Reader

    About 20 years, I should think.

  • BarrelOfPorter

    LOL! About right.

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Mick?

  • $33309652

    “…Cess pool that is NI …”

    You broke it..You pay for it.
    Thems are the rules. But thanx anyway. I am sure the “loyalists” will love to hear of themselves as a Cess Pit from the “mainland”.
    Makes it all worthwhile.
    BTW..The 26 counties wants some reparations for Cromwell. The Economic war. Partition, ( you stole 90 % of Irish industry ) etc,.. etc. And of course the Penal Laws, Navigation Acts.The Bribery over the Act of union.
    Basically all the damage you ever inflicted on Ireland.
    So, How deep are your pockets?
    And I’m sure Kenya, Zimbawe, Egypt, South Africa, Iran, India etc have some legitimate claims also.

  • barnshee

    “So, How deep are your pockets?”

    You can starve as far as GB is concerned

    PS “some reparations for Cromwell.

    Suggest you apply to the Royalists who supported the Stuarts against the republic oh wait a minute

    PPS the Cess pit refers to the lot

  • carl marks

    Not often we agree Reader, but i think that is a fair assessment of what will happen, both the DUP and SF see a collapse and Direct rule as a chance to get someone else to clean up the mess.