Public Meeting on the slashing of cross border funding for NI based language groups

Foras na Gaeilge: centralising resources in Dublin, ending funding for POBAL, Iontaobhas Ultach, Altram and Forbairt Feirste

Thursday 30th January 2014 at 7 pm

Room RS062, St Mary’s University College, Falls Road

POBAL is organising this public meeting to give the Irish speaking community and those who support the language to look at the implications of decisions Foras na Gaeilge announced on 17.1.14. On that day, Foras announced that it had appointed 6 organisations to do work across 6 work areas. Not a single one of these organisations is located in the north. Foras will end core funding for all of the other organisations on 30th June 2014.

POBAL, Altram, Iontaobhas Ultach and Forbairt Feirste will have a chance at the meeting to describe the implications Foras’s decisions will have on them and there will be a chance to ask questions and talk through the next steps.   More info: 028 90 438132

The meeting will be held in English and Irish.

  • But today the cross border body, Foras na Gaeilge, announces the new ‘lead organisations/ceann eagraiochtai’ for the promotion of Irish on an all Ireland basis and none of the NI based organisations, including POBAL, Iontaobhas ULTACH, Forbairt Feirste or Altram are included.

    This is in spite of 25% of the Foras na Gaeilge budget coming from Northern Ireland. While some are inclined to blame Foras na Gaeilge, the blame for this latest turn of events goes to the North South Ministerial Council who signed off on this policy back in July 2013 [pdf file].Concubhar, Fri 17 January 2014

  • Mick Fealty

    Yeah, and come to think of it what happened to that review of Strands 2 and 3 of the Belfast Agreement? Strand 1 has been reviewed almost to destruction.

  • Coll Ciotach

    Just for the information, why should there be a specifically “northern” body?

  • Reader

    Coll Ciotach: Just for the information, why should there be a specifically “northern” body?
    Are they saying that? It looks like they want a body that is located in the North, but that may be more to do with the distribution of jobs and money rather than relating to a specifically Northern, or Northern Ireland, task to be done.

  • cynic2

    This is such a small body it would be illogical to support all these small offices and groups. With a limited budget surely its best spent on field work rather than paying staff in more offices than are needed

  • Mick Fealty

    CC, in theory, nothing. Except, it IS different up here, education, culture, demographics and politics.

  • ayeYerMa

    About time commenting worked on this topic!

    Surely this simply comes down to the old “A language is a dialect with an army and navy” quip? What do some expect if they are want to promote “the Irish language”, with standards as defined by the Dublin government in the 1950s, and not wider and specifically more local Gaelic dialects? This standard is therefore property of the Dublin state of “Ireland”.

    Surely, people wanting to promote local Gaelic dialects would be better working together with our local Ulster Scots bodies? Not only would there be a common interest, but this would be a massive step in depoliticising things and increasing inclusivity.

  • cynic2

    ayeYer Ma

    But the cross border dimension is a shibboleth!!! And when a small area with few speakers sits alongside a big area with many more guess where the money goes?

  • mr x

    @Mick Fealty

    How many members of the Leinster rugby supporters club live in West Belfast.?

  • Coll Ciotach

    I feel that this is a people protecting say it is different up here is a non argument. It is different in Cork, it is different in Kerry, Donegal and Connemara.

    People have no idea how this will work out and this precipitous whinging does nothing to promote the language.

    It would be better to see what the proposals the body responsible has for the development of gaelic and then protest.

  • Coll Ciotach

    Oops -what happened there? First line should be “I feel that this is people protecting their positions, and to say that it is different up here is a non- argument.

  • Charles_Gould

    It is perhaps in the south that Gaelic is most under threat, as there are move to make the language optional at schools, and the Gaelic Speaking Areas are in decline.

  • Coll Ciotach

    I think you are correct there Charles on the grounds that the Gaeltachts here have already been wiped out and it is not compulsory for Gaelic to be taught in schools, however what are the figures for speaking Gaelic in the south and north, have they decreased or increased over the last ten years?