Labour lead Tories by 12 points; Ken trails Boris by 8….

Go figure, but that figure for the London poll is the second announced in a day…

There is also a Survation poll on the London mayoral election in tomorrow’s Telegraph. It has first preference figures of JOHNSON 42%, LIVINGSTONE 31%, PADDICK 10%, WEBB 5%, JONES 4%, CORTIGLIA 4%, BENITA 3%. With second preferences re-allocated, the final round works out at JOHNSON 54%, LIVINGSTONE 46% – the same as ComRes showed this morning.

And Boris is taking no chances anyone might think he’s with Dave…

  • Pete Baker

    Meanwhile, at the Guardian, Dave Hill is trying to convince everyone that London Labour Jewish activists are still voting for Ken

    Ken pleaded not guilty to some familiar charges: he said he hadn’t been rude to the Reuben Brothers because they are Jewish, but because he didn’t like their input into the Olympics; he said he hadn’t been rude to the then Evening Standard reporter Oliver Finegold because he is Jewish, but because Finegold wouldn’t leave him alone; that he’d been told by Al-Qaradawi himself that he believed Muslims shouldn’t strike their wives or attack Jews or homosexuals. “I was comfortable with that,” Ken said.

    “You’re absolutely right,” Ken went on. “He supports suicide bombing in Israel. I don’t agree with him on that. But he denounced any attempt to have a terrorist attack in Britain or America, he thinks the war should be confined to the Middle East.” He added: “My views on this are wholly academic. The question is, should I refuse to meet somebody who is condemning terrorist attacks in Britain, in London, as he did?” Ken’s answer? “No.”

    Afterwards, some said they’d thought Ken had explained himself a little better over Al-Qaradawi than in the past, despite a passing inconsistency or two.

    Someone not condemning terrorist attacks in Britain, in London, hasn’t been a problem for Ken before…

    And a classic understatement from Mr Hill

    There was still more difficult stuff – more than I can document here – and I think it’s fair to say that while Ken’s angrier foes seemed unappeased, the encounter could have been a great deal worse. That, at least, is what several of the more Ken-friendly members of the audience said to me when it was over.

    Then there’s this from the London Labour Jewish activists whom Dave HIll reports are backing Ken

    He fails to understand our issues with his involvement with Iranian Press TV or with Sheikh Yusuf Al Qaradawi. He also does say different things to different people.


  • FuturePhysicist

    Shame Boris can make a wise crack at the London Irish and still be more electable than Ken.

    You may fear for London either way.

  • Mick Fealty

    The Irish make up 3% of London these days… Kens problem has been (apart from Boris’ popularity) that hes pitched to the inner doughnut again. It was what killed him last time.

  • Firstly, in relation to the Government’s unpopularity, this was predicted when they took office two years ago. The Labour party will gain many council seats in a few weeks time. However, that will be of little comfort to them. They know that the Government will get back its popularity by 2015 if there is econmic recovery, which looks to be sustained, coupled by the planned reduction in the budget deficit.

    If you stick your neck out in politics, every now and again, you will make a gaffe. Johnson has made a number of gaffes. However, if, when you do stick your neck out, you stir the individual political ego, you also become popular.

    Johnson has manage to say the right things more often than he has gaffed. He has also managed his profite pretty well, coming across as the patriot mayor celebrating St. George’s day.

    You may not like him. Personally, I am not impressed by some of his attitudes, particularly with respect to marriage. However, he has managed to maintain political popuparity in the face of his party’s national unpopularity. That makes him a politician of some substance.

  • cynic2

    “Shame Boris can make a wise crack at the London Irish and still be more electable than Ken.”

    Shares of Big Bang Theory here, I am afraid.

  • cynic2

    “particularly with respect to marriage”

    which counts for zero in London elections anyway. You also don’t mention Ken’s stunning hypocrisy and laying re his tax affairs and potential breaches of Company law on donations to his campaign.

    Perhaps its not a case of Boris winning but Ken being unelectable

  • Mick Fealty

    Not to mention the stunning hypocrisy on the Tory benches for dissing (albeit backhandedly) a pro business policy most of them back… (Tim:

  • Barnshee

    Boris is much more gaff prone and outrageous (normally )than Ken and is thus more entertaining. Their shag quantity quotient is probably about equal , based on the apparent (stress apparent) score the Boris shag quality would be much superior

    So a bit of a lad

    Ken also sounds like a whinger every time he speaks -he can’t help it its just the way he is. Boris will walk it -to everyones bafflement

  • FuturePhysicist

    Boris bores me … he tries too hard to be a show-off and comes off as little more than a show-off. The thing is he has no obvious talent to show off.

  • Having been out-of-the-loop overlooking the Sea of Marmara these last few days I missed my yellow card for irony (is that Poe’s Law at work?). Compared to what’s above in this thread, I feel somewhat picked upon. So here’s a second go.

    Mick Fealty, interestingly, chooses to take the Survation poll at second hand, via Anthony Wells, rather than the horse’s mouth, the Telegraph and that most-honest reporter of all things BoJo, … Andrew Gilligan. Understandable, really: my MacOs auto spell-corrector preferred that as “Andrew illegal”.

    Mick seems convinced Livingstone’s problem is he[‘]s pitched to the inner doughnut again. Well, that’s at least half-correct.

    Where does one expect to find the Labour vote? Clue: in Labour boroughs. Which are where, approximately?

    Even Gilligan notes something odd happening:

    Brian Coleman, Mr Johnson’s fire authority chairman, seems likely to lose his assembly seat, the poll says. Mr Johnson’s deputy mayor, Richard Barnes, is also at risk. The most high-profile Tory casualty could be Mr Johnson’s policing chief, Kit Malthouse, whose lead over Labour in his assembly seat is within the margin of error.

    Malthouse is AM for that classic inner-city deprived area of Westminster, Hammersmith and Fulham and the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea. If that area goes Labour, it’d be quite a bite out of the doughnut.

    Take a closer look at what is happening in Brian “Mr Toad” Coleman’s backyard of Barnet.

    Since Mick has a speciality in “Digtal pathfinding, research and Innovation” [sic], I’d have expect him to be au-fait on this one.

    We’ve got quite an extraordinary, and long-running cyber-peasants’ revolt going on, and it’s well outside the doughnut. Go looking for the blogs of
    • “Mrs Angry” at “Broken Barnet”,
    • MrMustard,
    • citizenbarnet,
    • barneteye,
    • colemansgototgo,
    • 101reasonstosackbriancoleman (up to no. 96 as of this morning),
    not to forget —
    • “isbriancolemanatediouscock” (that alone should earn a yellow card).

    Then consider David Hencke, who has been as assiduous as any in pursuing the Coleman/AssetCo scandal (an everyday story of privatised folk) and Barnet/MetPro Rapid Response (and you thought Big Brother was somewhere between trash tv and an Orwellian nightmare?).

    All the London polls are be-fuddled by the Gilligan-affekt (© M. Redfellow). Or, as ComRes put it —

    The fact that so many Londoners expect Boris to win serves only to reinforce the point that to lose would be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    For “expect Boris to win”, read “have been repeatedly assured only Boris can win”. The latest poll has BoJo up 44-41 on first preferences, which comes down to 52-48 in the redistribution run-off. But:

    London politics expert Tony Travers, from the LSE, said: “It’s still too close to call – the race really isn’t over yet.