Hell hath no fury like a McNarry spurned?

Hat tip to Paul Adams for this one… It seems that the new leader at the UUP’s assertion that David McNarry will not be let back into the Assembly group, is already bringing dark mutterings from the Saintfield based MLA… And he’s using the Martin Niemöller defence: “I leave it to others to judge Mike’s dramatic rise to the top and for colleagues to think about who may be next.”

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  • Drumlins Rock

    First they came for the Orangists, and I did not speak out–
    Because I was not a Orangist.

    Then they came for the Unionist Unionists, and I did not speak out–
    Because I was not a Unionist Unionist.

    Then they came for the Rebels, and I did not speak out–
    Because I was not a Rebel.

    Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.

    Is that what you had in mind Mick?

    BTW, I know it is a more liberal society these days, even within religion, but surely in even the most liberal circles the fury of Hell has not been downgraded to this extent?

  • Langdale

    Oh, this is going to run and run and it will be delicious to observe.

    McNarry has never gone anywhere quietly and he’s not going to start now.

    So sit back and wait for it all to end in a courtroom. Better still prepare to read the full details of what took place at the UUP-DUP ‘talks’, along with the supposedly ‘private’ minutes of the Erne Group.

    Philip Robinson is almost certain to be replaced by a name that is already well known in the pro-Nesbitt cabal.

    Judging by the removal of all photographs other than his own from the UUP website and his desire to front press conferences alone, it looks like Nesbitt,rather than the UUP, is the brand to be promoted and that loyalty must also be to him personally rather than the party.

    The ‘broad church’ is about to be replaced with the ‘cult of Mike.’

  • alex gray

    I understood the A5 was an Executive as opposed to Ministerial decision so the SPAD is hardly to blame. It also involved what Tom Elliott would call a “foreign” government. Sinn Fein;s hands were all over it. Perhaps the SPAD is the sacrificial victim to keep Danny Kennedy in post ? Use to be Ministers who resigned.

  • alex gray

    Michael. I suppose you think things that are based on and involve the spending public money do NOT make you accountable. I’m afraid they do and the attitude betrayed in your comment may be one of the reasons why the UUP has been consitently losing ground.

  • andnowwhat

    I really don’t think that Mc Narry’s chat with Liam Clarke was enough to bring on the wrath of Mike (PLC) and most certainly not the normally clam Mc Callister.

    When on asked on Radio Ulster (Nolan I think it was) about the DMN situation, Mc Callister uncharacteristically snapped that he was most certainly getting rid of him. Really? For that interview? Can’t see it. We all knew there were talks going on between the parties for some time.

    There’s got to be something else.

  • andnowwhat

    BTW, this kind of knocks Mike’s faux surprise at his lightning elevation in to touch. Yeah Mike, it happened because youi made it happen.

    As for the UUP, did they go for a cheap trick of having a celeb #1 from the off?

    BTW Michael, everything a political party does is in the public interest given that they are an organisation that puts themselves to the public.

  • Drumlins Rock

    the “chat” or press statement to be more percise, issued via Liam Clarke went much further than the party leader instructed McNarry to go, as a result he got an early demotion, slap on the wrist terittory.
    McNarry then resigned the whip in a huff and went to town bad mouthing the leader in the press (somthing he has gotten away with far to often), for that alone and nothing to do with the initial interview, he was suspended from the party.
    Mike has now understandably stated he does not want him back on the assembly team, remember it was McNarry himself who took the decision to leave the group, If you resign and badmouth one leader why on earth would you expect the next one to take you back on board?

  • alex gray

    Heard that Mike Nesbitt may be suffering fromn AVB syndrome. Andre Villas Boas was Chelsea FC manager who sacked all his experienced players. He ended by getting he sack himself. I am sure Mike Nesbitt will not go the same way.

  • Langdale

    Drumlins Rock,

    I accept the logic of your argument,but only to a point. The fact of the matter is that McNarry has been punished twice—-for going further than he was told to go by Elliott and then for, as you put it, ‘badmouthing’ the leader, for which he was suspended for nine months.

    After the nine months was up, would he not be entitled, as a member of the UUP and an MLA to seek the whip again?

    But there is a wider issue, too, which is why Tom Elliott didn’t,himself, just go to Liam Clarke and give a full, on-the-record briefing? It would certainly have made life an awful lot easier for himself and for the UUP. It would also have killed off the prospect of the complete details of the UUP-DUP talks being put in the public domain—which seems to me to be a very likely outcome.

  • Drumlins Rock

    McNarry RESIGNED the whip before the disciplinary proceedings, it has no connection with the 9 month suspension. In most cases when someone resigns they rarely come back, and his erratic behaviour since shows he has no real desire to return.

  • Langdale


    I was aware that he had resigned the whip before the Disciplinary Committee had imposed the nine months’ suspension.

    My point was (and I acknowledge it may not amount to very much ) that in the unlikely event of McNarry still being in the UUP at the end of nine months—his punishment having been completed—is there anything to stop him applying to the Assembly Group for re-admission?

    Were the precise charges laid against Mr. McNarry ever made public? He claims not to have met the Disciplinary Committee. The only thing I saw was the story in the newspapers confirming the suspension—but no further details.

    I’m off to do grandfatherly things for the next few hours, so will check in later for yourresponse.

  • andnowwhat


    For a man with such a long, high profile as DMN, there is no way any form of demotion could be a slap on the wrist. We could all recount goodness knows how many cases of politicians going off piste and counter to policy, often within moments of their leader’s proclamations.

    On a basic level, going public does not give much confidence to the public. Elliot’s leadership was a shambles from start to finish, from “scumgate” to this. The party is seen as all at sea, throwing themselves from pillar to post, not to find a substantial direction but to get back power.

    DMN’s revelations seem to indicate that they took a leaf, not out of British politics but out of Heat. Just look at Langdale’s post (@2.15) about the website and conflate that with the nonsense Mike has come off with on the airways.

    How did Mike dismiss DMN’s revelations? It was private. As vacuous as everything the man says.

    I’m a traditional republican and as so, I have little time for DMN’s past but I also believe in giving a man who has served his party for decades some respect.

  • Drumlins Rock

    Langdale, if you resigned from your job, bad mouthed the boss then re-applied for it just because there is a new boss, do you think you would get the job back?

    As for the disiplinary proceeding, have now idea what went one but would guess the “badmouthing the leader” would just about cover it, can really argue there, there was certainly no need to do it in public.

  • NeedNoAlibi

    Last Assembly election there were places in Strangford where you could see vote Nesbitt 1 In the same places as vote McNarry 1. Says it all really.

    What I’d be interested in is the details from the unionist unity talks that blew the whole McNarry thing up. Martina Purdy noted at the time this story broke is that McNarry is a keen note taker. Of course the DUP probably wouldn’t be bothered to take notes for themselves!

  • Framer

    I thought the problem, or is it the virtue, of the current system is that Ministers have total control of their own departments and their spending. So why if Danny Kennedy was in charge of roads was he unable simply to veto the A5.
    Alex Attwood seems able to go against the other Ministers let alone London by allowing local government staff off having to pay higher contributions for their pensions.

  • Drumlins Rock

    Framer, Sammy holds the purse strings.

  • Framer

    But if Minister Kennedy had not asked for the money then he wouldn’t have got it.

  • Drumlins Rock

    Its different in this case Framer, he was offered the money on condition is was spent on them 3 road schemes, not an offer you could refuse.

  • Mick Fealty

    Not sure who Eamonn’s sources were, but according to mine there is no question of Mr Robinson being sacked… Just be careful not to repeat anything you do not know to be true!

  • dwatch

    Elliott rejects McNarry’s ‘ridiculous’ talks claims

    “Both Mr Elliott and Mr McNarry are senior Orangemen and, until this row erupted in January, were seen as being from the same traditional side of the UUP.” http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/local/elliott-rejects-mcnarry-s-ridiculous-talks-claims-1-3708823

  • dwatch

    I don’t understand McNarry’s mentality. Does he honestly think by have his views continously published that more UUP members will support him. Do the public readership of BT & Newsletter really care about McNarry?

    “How talks on unity ended in rancour and internal rows”

    UUP MLA David McNarry gives his account of his fall-out with the party from which he is serving a nine-month suspension with little hope of a return

    Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/news-analysis/how-talks-on-unity-ended-in-rancour-and-internal-rows-16141263.html#ixzz1rLBUlp9a

  • Langdale

    The point is that McNarry is accusing Nesbitt of having been less than truthful about his knowledge of the UUP-DUP talks.

    Odd that Nesbitt has yet to deny the accuracy of McNarry’s claims