Murphy calls for the people of Armagh to remain cool headed…

Clearly feelings amongst some sections of the community in Armagh are running high. The city’s MP Conor Murphy has appealed for calm before tomorrow’s events:

“The decision to allow a loyalist band parade through Armagh on St Patrick’s Day is flawed at the most fundamental level,” Mr Murphy said.

“The PSNI and Parades Commission have said that they are satisfied that this parade is non controversial and while I do not believe this to be the case I would appeal to all those in Armagh tomorrow to remain cool headed.”

  • lamhdearg2

    Anyone got a map of the route the evening parade will take?.
    side note, Linfield v D/Celtic play sat, meaning a number (including myself) of Linfield supporters will be making their way to and from Windsor via belfast city centre, some may even have the gall to wear their clubs colours, i hope all the police are not sent to Armagh, as i for one am allergic to punches on the nose.

  • Zig70

    It’s got a lot of traction here but nobody I’ve talked to has paid heed to it in Belfast, though most of them don’t know what a polling station is. Anyway, I’ll be in Croke tomorrow supporting the true ‘Heroes of Ulster’. The best way to spend St Paddy’s day.
    Christian festival, turn the other cheek, maybe better turn your back.

  • Quincey Dougan

    At our meeting Conor chastised me for keeping records of communications, but I feel this is relevant: his irish news front page came after 7 days of us attempting to arrange a meeting. After the Irish news article on the 8th march I rang his office. Despite the proclamation of the scale of this disaster I was told he was very busy at stormont and would get the message ‘tomorrow’. Next day I waited. Rang in the afternoon. It will be Monday I was told. Monday i waited. Monday afternoon I rang and was told Conor and co were meeting the P.C. And would decide on Tuesday if a meeting was necessary. Wednesday I rang again and emailed. A meeting was arranged.

    Conor I hope there are cool heads. I can’t help but feel if there had at least been communication and less nihilistic press releases we would be in a different place now.

  • HeinzGuderian

    christian festival ?
    You mean drunken free for all.

  • Mick Fealty

    Heinz,

    I don’t wish you ill mate. But these threads are for serious comment. You want that Yellow to go red?

  • Zig70

    Parade is not mentioned on bbc ni web, seems badgers are more news worthy.

  • Zig70

    I see Downpatrick festival is in the news again. Seems an Irish translation of Downpatrick is offensive. WTF(BelTel)

  • sdelaneys

    It would be interesting to ask Connor where he believes the danger lies and why. Is it because a large section of the population do not see the loyalist bands as in any way Irish and is ‘outreach’ not having any effect? Is it a purely sectarian reaction between our two ‘tribes’? Is it a fear of a reaction from people who will have helped the economy by drinking all they can get their hands on tomorrow? Is it that the Loyalist bands might wreck Armagh after they march? Where does he see the possible trouble coming from and why does he think it might come to trouble?
    Also, is all his doomsaying not actually begging for trouble? Young nationalists/republicans by now must be feeling ‘we have to do something about this’ after hearing so much talk about the likelihood of trouble.
    Peace walls spread in Belfast, will we need them in the cathedral City too?

  • BluesJazz

    no interest in any of the events, but the Downpatrick experience is pitiful.
    Mass boozing (including underage) and Glasgow Celtic display. The ‘parade’ has a few vintage Ford Anglias and some people dressed as ‘Monks’. The rugby might be on big screens in the pubs but no-one there will be interested.
    Apart from cheeseburgers and chips, that’s it.
    Cool.

  • Drumlins Rock

    Whip things up, then try to cool them down the night before? good one Connor.

  • ayeYerMa

    After viewing that Irish News front page headline story in my newsagents it came across to me as being highly irresponsible and if the paper were also trying to egg-on trouble.

    It’s almost as if the paper assumes that everyone understands St. Patrick must have been an Irish Republican and that he came to Ireland to give the people all those Irish Republican flags to wave (“lefty Sinn Fein crap” indeed!) The paper also used the word “Loyalist” in a manner implying as if the word “loyalist” is something inherently evil or something.

  • Coll Ciotach

    After Mass I will be taking the children to climb Slemish as we do every year. I will park the car in the Protestant church car parks in Buckna, pay me couple of quid for the bus to take us to Slemish, enjoy the view over County Antrim and beyond and say a prayer to our Patron Saint for Ireland and the Irish. Those who want to court trouble in Armagh and other places by turning a religious feast day into a secular boozing session and political football can tear ahead. I hope they get what they want from the day.

  • sonofstrongbow

    For some using the word “loyalist” in this type of context has become the more acceptable PC shorthand for ‘Orange Hun bastids’.

    The Armagh brouhaha plays to the Irish Republican strategy of claiming public space as ‘theirs’ and then raising tensions should any Pesky Prods appear on the horizon.

    Armagh city centre, roads in north Belfast or wherever the game is the same: stake a spurious claim, deny access to those who fail the mono-cultural Irishness ‘test’ and then deploy the usual ‘coat-trailing’ argument if they hove into view.

    It’s a ploy as old as Irish Republicanism. As soon as the flag of choice of the various contemporary Republican murder gangs was flying over Dublin many public displays of Protestantism were attacked. The attacks ranged from murder in places such as Cork to organised beatings of Orangemen as they attempted to continue their traditions in other Free State counties (that tradition now confined to a beach in County Donegal).

    The violent removal of Protestant culture from civic space (as the Civic Guards (sic) stood by) is what is being played for here. As the old song might have put it ‘If you’re ‘Irish’ come into the street; if you’re not: feck off’.

  • lamhdearg2

    i seem to agree with pretty much everything that has been stated above, it must be my age. coll, enjoy your day the sun is out and spring has arived.

  • SK

    “The Armagh brouhaha plays to the Irish Republican strategy of claiming public space as ‘theirs’ and then raising tensions should any Pesky Prods appear on the horizon.”

    _

    That’s an interesting take on what’s happening here.

    Nationalists are advocating a cross-community event. The Loyalist response is to opt instead for the usual, ghettoised, tribal, shite as a means of celebrating what should be a shared occasion.

    So who do you reckon is marking their territory again?

  • Sinn Fein continue the strategy of demonisation, creating a poisonous atmosphere, and then appealing for calm having created the sense of crisis while preparing to blame the Prods for causing any violence or confrontation that arises. CSI anyone?

  • dwatch

    ‘pay me couple of quid for the bus to take us to Slemish,’

    Coll, would it not be a good idea if the local councils in the Antrim area launched a scheme (with the help of a lottery grant) to build a large statue of St Patrick on top of Slemish.

    Just think of the Tourist trade it would create and attract all those Irish Americans and others wanting to have their photographs taken beside it.

  • Reader

    SK : Nationalists are advocating a cross-community event. The Loyalist response is to opt instead for the usual, ghettoised, tribal, shite as a means of celebrating what should be a shared occasion.
    Surely nationalists only go for cross community events as the price of public funding? And only recently, at that.
    And there are *also* nationalist events today. Are they also “ghettoised, tribal, shite”?
    For instance – Dungiven: Kevin Lynch Memorial Flute Band.
    Strabane : Tom P Mullen Memorial Accordion band.
    So, it’s not just loyalists.

  • “At our meeting Conor chastised me for keeping records of communications, but I feel this is relevant….”

    Where do you think Donnelly got the *data* for his post?

    Think he sat down and worked out all those links for himself?

    Victim of the SF Black OPs I am afraid mate.

  • socaire

    I lived in Ard Mhacha for a few years during the Attempt and all areas of the Mall and most of the commercial centre was out of bounds to native Irish people. Not a weekend passed without some poor creature taking the wrong turn and ending up in Craigavon. The city was and is very ghetto-ised. But that’s all in the past. Now all spaces are shared spaces. However the Taigs need to be reminded that it’s not their inner city and that’s what the band parade is all about.

  • ranger1640

    Shocker. The suspicious object at the centre of a security alert in Amargh has been declared a hoax.

    http://www.u.tv/News/Armagh-security-alert-is-hoax/a37babd7-c3ee-4fa0-ac1d-cf21f2780279

  • Drumlins Rock

    “native Irish People” like Adams, Hume, Sands, McDonald, Richie, Attwood ? I saw plenty of “taig” culture in the inner city this afternoon, and no-one said a thing to them, I hope the “prod” culture will be given the same space tonight.

  • socaire

    ‘A rose by any other name’? We both know that the best outcome will be the usual outcome. Both sides will ignore each other – each in our own little parallel universes. We work together, sport together, shop together and live apart.