Loyalist violence returns to the Short Strand enclave

Following on from the loyalist rioting in North Belfast last Friday, there has been a sustained attack tonight on catholic homes in the Short Strand area of East Belfast by what the BBC are reporting Sinn Fein Mayor of Belfast, Niall O’Donnghaile, to be claiming are between 60 and 100 “masked and camouflaged men.” 

Perhaps more attention should be paid to the motive behind the new murals being painted across East Belfast….

  • SK

    “SK.. hark at you every post is an attack on unionists, how i wish i could be ‘‘moderate’ such as yourself Lmfao”

    Hark at me pointing out that unionists are bending over backwards to avoid laying the blame for last night’s violence where it belongs. If nationalists were this mealy-mouthed about dissident republican scumbags you would be up in arms.

  • between the bridges

    Sinn Fein blamed scores of masked men,, for launching coordinated attacks on the republican Short Strand area.

    Ulster Unionist Michael Copeland said he believed the violence followed attacks on Protestant-owned homes.

    take your pick SK…ophs sorry you already have in your ‘moderate’ way…lol

  • SK

    “take your pick SK…ophs sorry you already have in your ‘moderate’ way…lol”

    I’m picking the Chief Superintendent from the Police Service of Northern Ireland, who has made it clear that the violence was instigated by terrorists from the Ulster Volunteer Force.

    Keep grasping at whatever straws you can though, BTB. It speaks volumes about you and those like you.

  • JR

    This really does underline the huge differances that still exist in Northern Ireland. We all read the same news, heard the same things on the radio and saw the same clips on the News. Yet we all made up our own minds very quickly on what the story of last night actually is.

    It reminds me a bit of that BBC documentary a few months back where they staged a fight and stabbing in a pub and filmed the whole thing from many angles. When all the whitneses were interviewed almost all saw, heard believed things that infact did not happen.

    I agree with you SK it is depressing.

  • keano10

    Thank goodness for modern media bearing in mind that UTV and BBC completely failed to grasp the scale of the violence last night. A bad night for local television journalism. UTV was the worst by far. Ps Paul Clarke – has anyone told wee Rory what he’s coming back to? Maybe he wont bother his ass…

  • jimmacdonaldstash

    I cant helping feeling this is the UVF upping the ante because they know the historical enquiries team have some of them by the balls and are comming to get them.You reap what you sow lads! but dont be bringing the rest of us down with you!

  • slmccni

    But that’s exactly it Jimmacdonaldstash, their gripe is with the HET making arrests and having them by the balls when there seems to be no special branch handlers being held to account. As I have said in a previous post, my family are awaiting the outcome of our enquiry into the killing of my grandfather by the UVF. The UVF did it but there was collusion. The murder was carried out by one of the top supergrass’ in the UVF. We dont want any convictions because he was killed and his accomplices that night served a sentence until 1998. On the other hand the existence of handlers hasn’t even been admitted never mind apologies or even god forbid convictions – they let an innocent man be murdered – no government or security force should allow this.

    I’ll say it again, as a catholic who has had family members killed by the UVF, I can understand their gripe. They are being scape-goated so the government doesn’t have to recognise that they facilitated them for years. Once again the innocent victims of the troubles are being trampled on and all everyone here can slabber about is who threw the first brick.

  • between the bridges

    SK. ‘It speaks volumes about you and those like you’…would that be the pesky planters or just people with a different view to your own?

  • SK

    “SK. ‘It speaks volumes about you and those like you’…would that be the pesky planters or just people with a different view to your own?”

    BTB

    That would be the Unionist contributors to this website, with a particular emphasis on those whom- like you- bend over backwards to defend the UVF by rationalising their violence.

    I wonder what your excuses will be if they kill someone.

  • Comrade Stalin

    It’s kind of funny. We constantly get lectures about how unionists are peace loving and have no truck with terrorists, and yet any time they speak about an event like this it is to provide justification for the actions of loyalist paramilitaries who, according to the police, were the instigators of this trouble.

    If Sinn Féin can unequivocally condemn as traitors those who murder or attempt to murder police officers, why is it so hard for “law and order” unionists to do the same ?

  • between the bridges

    SK, dry your crocodile tears you took offence to me condemning both sides…that is all anyone ever needs to know about you.

  • keano10

    Interesting to see the PUP guy on the news tonight giving it large about alienation and all that nonsense. They simply arent getting handouts any more and this is their own unique way of ‘lobbying’. No one wonder Dawn Purvis bailed out before the lunatics took over that particular asylum…

  • SK

    “SK, dry your crocodile tears you took offence to me condemning both sides…that is all anyone ever needs to know about you.”

    Keep scraping that barrel.

    When republican dissidents perpetrate acts of violence, nationalists condemn without qualification. It’s a shame that the unionist contributors have not yet evolved to the point where they can do likewise for the UVF.

    Sneaking regard perhaps?

  • keano10

    By the way what the hell is Conall McDevitt spouting on about The Strand for? We have never seen him before. That guy would do anything for a two minute soundbite. Go back to Stranmillis Conall…

  • Comrade Stalin

    The guy Jim Wilson was interviewed on UTV. He said that the violence happened because loyalists were isolated and nobody was “helping” the community, and that the trouble would continue unless that problem was resolved. It’s very interesting that he made no attempt to suggest that the violence was some kind of reaction to provocation from the Short Strand.

  • Comrade Stalin

    keano, you really are a nasty piece of work aren’t you ? The bile seeps out of all your contributions.

  • Keano10. You’re right about the pitfully compliant media here especially BBC and UTV. The news editors have bought hook line and sinker into the whole ‘New N. Ireland post troubles era, and they don’t like this being contradicted by ‘events’ like klast night which shows the same old song being played again by the same old sinmgers on the streets. They preferred the filmed footage of the golf to be screened instead of the less palpable reality of the real time news. This is what passes here for broadcast jornalism.

  • That should have read ‘palatable’ of course.,

  • chewnicked

    I think we are all being very complacent about the impact of gunfire back on the streets. We are terrifyingly close to entering into a spiral of sectarian assassinations as the East Belfast UVF genie is definitley out of the bottle, as someone remarked earlier.
    I do not think there is either the capacity or the will within either central Loyalist command structures or Unionist political leadership to call it straight by condemning those who initiated this co-ordinated attack on the homes of women and children
    As last night shows, there will be those on the nationalist side who will be quick to get the guns out as well doing no favours to their own community in the process.

    I am greatly disturbed at the prospects of families being bereaved and coffins being caried out of homes as a result of this slide back into the abyss.
    If and when this happens, some of the keyboard warriors on this site but more so the cowardly political fence-sitters polluting the media today should hang their heads in shame at their squalid justifications of last night’s events.

  • orly

    SK “When republican dissidents perpetrate acts of violence, nationalists condemn without qualification. It’s a shame that the unionist contributors have not yet evolved to the point where they can do likewise for the UVF.”

    What a load of pish. “Nationalists” have voted for the same sorts as these clowns for decades. Strong condemnation there from those of a greener persuasion. “We condemn what you do but here, have a cushy MLA salary or perhaps a ministry of some sort”

    “Dissidents” is a very trendy word but it’s really just one continuum of bastards. There’s no shortage of nationalist “contributors” seeking to make a convenient distinction where no distinction exists because it’ll help them sleep better at night.

    How many UVF or UDA criminals are ministers or getting comfortable publicly funded “jobs” up at Stormont. Thats right – because unionists, on the whole, aren’t quite as deranged when it comes to selecting who they vote for.

    Just to entertain you, the numpties having a hissy fit last night are a bunch of losers who need laughed at and preferably shot at by the Police with some live rounds. No bullshit, no “evolution” required – lets be unequivocal.

    Now kindly bugger off.

  • andnowwhat

    According to Aideen Kennedy, on Twitter, rioting has started again

  • SK

    “What a load of pish. “Nationalists” have voted for the same sorts as these clowns for decades. Strong condemnation there from those of a greener persuasion. “We condemn what you do but here, have a cushy MLA salary or perhaps a ministry of some sort”

    _

    Nationalist support for Sinn Fein was always inversely proportional to the level of IRA violence. Now that might hinder your attempts at MOPEry a little bit, but there you go.

    As for that oft-quoted (but seldom seen) Unionist contempt for Loyalist paramilitaries- it was less than a month ago that the DUP and UUP attempted to recruit the UVF drones from Belfast City Council into their ‘working group’. It’s less than a year ago that Peter Punt welcomed a former UVF convict- and man who did time with Gusty Spence- into the DUP family. Not to be outdone, “moderate” Tom Eliott’s moderate party has recruited a man convicted of not one, but two, sectarian murderers into the fold.

    Do you spot the ‘convenient distinction’ there, Orly?

  • Comrade Stalin

    How many UVF or UDA criminals are ministers or getting comfortable publicly funded “jobs” up at Stormont. Thats right – because unionists, on the whole, aren’t quite as deranged when it comes to selecting who they vote for.

    Given that not a single unionist politician has unequivocally condemned the loyalist attacks, what difference does that make ? They obviously consider apologizing for paramilitarism to be an electoral necessity.

    Just to entertain you, the numpties having a hissy fit last night are a bunch of losers who need laughed at and preferably shot at by the Police with some live rounds. No bullshit, no “evolution” required – lets be unequivocal.

    Wouldn’t it be a lot easier if unionist politicians would simply disown the paramilitaries and tell people to tell police anything they know ?

  • An Ceide

    Nationalists= BAD
    Unionists= GOOD
    ‘computer says no’

    orly, there is mindless scum on both sides of the divide, bigots who love nothing more than hurting themmun’s, the problem is the idiots are so set in their ways that no ammount of talking will persuade them to change their way of thinking.

    I’m not deranged, SF have come a long way, they might have a past that makes your blood boil but they have changed their ways and adopted a new peaceful strategy, now it was alright for Willie McCrea to share a stage with billy wright or david trimble to march down to the police line on the garvaghy road like some sort of higher than thou bully boy whilst police men and innocent taxi drivers where being murdered, then again unionists aren’t deranged enough to associate themselves with those kind of people.

    A lot of politicians from both sides of the community have shady pasts, if David Irvine was still around he would tell you that himself, so if you want to tar all us nationalists with the same brush, make sure to keep some of that tar for your side too.

  • Limerick

    “I guarantee that if it this were a report about a large group dissident republicans attacking Protestant homes in the area, ‘moderates’ such as yourself would be nowhere near so equivocal in your condemnation. Pathetic.”

    SK,

    Presumably you haven’t heard about the Protestant homes being attacked by a republican mob or the republican gunmen shooting two Protestants? You have now, so feel free to vent forth with your condemnation.

  • SK

    “Presumably you haven’t heard about the Protestant homes being attacked by a republican mob or the republican gunmen shooting two Protestants? You have now, so feel free to vent forth with your condemnation.”

    Limerick,

    You mean the violence that occured over the course of the UVF instigated attack? I think it’s fairly clear that I condemn that alright.

  • keano10

    Short Strand is now under attack again for the second night. Masked loyalists attacking homes again.

  • andnowwhat

    Check #belfast

    Water cannon are now in use. Someone injured with a petrol bomb.

    Nationalists need to withdraw and leave this to the police

  • foyle observer

    Limerick, we haven’t heard you condemn the violence, Loyalist or otherwise.

    Come on then, let’s have it. Assuming you actually DO condemn it.

  • Comrade Stalin

    andnowwhat,

    absolutely right, the republicans must stay the hell out of this. They have no right to shoot people or respond to the violence, and if they do they must face the full consequences.

    It’s very convenient that there is a republican neighbourhood nearby. There wasn’t one in Rathcoole last year when the UVF decided to go on a riot there – largely for the same reasons. Of course, not a single elected unionist politician gave any kind of unequivocal condemnation.

  • andnowwhat

    @Comrade Stalin

    Good points. The people of the Strand responded in a way most of us would but shooing guns was the step too far.

    Loyalists messed up big style by shooting at the police last night.

  • Limerick

    “Limerick,

    You mean the violence that occured over the course of the UVF instigated attack? I think it’s fairly clear that I condemn that alright.”

    SK,

    It’s not very clear at all. In fact it sounds rather like you are condoning it.

  • Comrade Stalin

    anw, I don’t think it’s at all appropriate to respond the way people in the Short Strand did – and let’s face it, most of that “response” was youths hanging around trying to start a bit of excitement up. That is usually the case on both sides; the ominous part is the crowd of 200 loyalists all fully kitted up and prepared.

  • Limerick

    “Limerick, we haven’t heard you condemn the violence, Loyalist or otherwise.

    Come on then, let’s have it. Assuming you actually DO condemn it.”

    I have no problem whatsoever in condemning the knuckle dragging scum who are involved in this brainless violence regardless of what community they come from.

  • Limerick

    “I don’t think it’s at all appropriate to respond the way people in the Short Strand did – and let’s face it, most of that “response” was youths hanging around trying to start a bit of excitement up.”

    Comrade,

    Who attacked the Prod houses? Themselves?

  • andnowwhat

    CS

    That’s what I’m talking about, how they responded to the uvf attack.. Still can’t figure how CCTV missed them coming in.

  • lamhdearg

    The police have not released cctv pics in the past, it was called for by twaddell residents in the wake of attacts on their homes, but the police refused.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Who attacked the Prod houses? Themselves?

    Undoubtedly wee dickheads from the Strand. I am not here to apologize for the violence. Obviously it wasn’t that serious as it wasn’t in the news or mentioned by any politicians. Nobody said a word about it – until the UVF decided to charge the Short Strand.

    And yes, there is a difference between wee dickheads starting shit up, and a crowd of 200 guys fully set up with balaclavas and surgical gloves. The two things aren’t in remotely the same ballpark. And as I said, Jim Wilson said that the attacks happened not as a response to attacks on the Newtownards Road, but because loyalists were disaffected and pissed off. So the fact that this is an unprovoked case of the UVF simply using the Short Strand as a convenient punchbag to make a point is coming straight from the horse’s mouth.

  • SK

    “It’s not very clear at all. In fact it sounds rather like you are condoning it.”

    _

    Limerick,

    Interesting.

    And was it my repeated condemnation of the violence that lead you to deduce that? Or was it my insistence that two wrongs don’t make a right?

  • orly

    SK,

    Nonsense. Like the 100,000 odd voting for them in the 80s when the IRA were still busy killing plenty of people? Some revisionists might like to think no one voted for SF “when they were bad” but it’s completely untrue. Plenty voted for them then and knew what it meant.

    At least on somethings you’re closer to the mark. Unionist pandering to less than savoury characters should be ridiculed and punished at the polls accordingly. People wailed when the UUP and PUP tried a little link up and rightly so. Cue both of them continuing to get owned at the polling booth.

    An Ceide, I’ve never distinguished between the likes of SF or the PUP say. I’d have had them all lined up and shot because I have no time for bullshitters on either team.

    The level of brass-neckery around this site never ceases to amaze. SF voters gourning about riots? Probably spent plenty a summers eve in your youth doing exactly the same in some arsehole end of Belfast.

  • Limerick

    “Undoubtedly wee dickheads from the Strand. I am not here to apologize for the violence. Obviously it wasn’t that serious as it wasn’t in the news or mentioned by any politicians. Nobody said a word about it – until the UVF decided to charge the Short Strand.”

    Comrade,

    I am referring to the republican attacks on Protestant homes last night. Hardly the work of ‘wee dickheads’ as it also involved the shooting of two people. Pretty serious would you not think?

  • Limerick

    “And was it my repeated condemnation of the violence that lead you to deduce that? Or was it my insistence that two wrongs don’t make a right?”

    SK,

    I deduced it from the way that you emphasised that it occured during the UVF attack. That suggests that you condone it.

  • andnowwhat

    I am referring to the republican attacks on Protestant homes last night. Hardly the work of ‘wee dickheads’ as it also involved the shooting of two people. Pretty serious would you not think?

    Limerick

    Care to address that the police are regarding an
    attack on them by loyalists as attempted murder?

  • lamhdearg

    comrade, i agree with almost all of you post except, “Obviously it wasn’t that serious as it wasn’t in the news or mentioned by any politicians. Nobody said a word about it ” in a way its more serious for the resident, im not that up on whats been going on in susan street, from experience having bricks put through your windows and being told your going to get brunt out and then reporting them to police,but the police can do nothing and “nobody says a word about it”. its serious enough.

  • Dewi

    I’ve read the stuff and comments but can’t quite work out what was the occasion? Why did it start?

  • SK

    “I deduced it from the way that you emphasised that it occured during the UVF attack. That suggests that you condone it.”

    _

    Limerick,

    I emphasised that it occurred during the UVF attack because that is when it happened.

    If those Protestant gentlemen were involved in the UVF’s little expedition, would you expect me to empathise with them?

  • andnowwhat

    @Dewi

    That is the question.

  • SK

    “At least on somethings you’re closer to the mark. Unionist pandering to less than savoury characters should be ridiculed and punished at the polls accordingly. People wailed when the UUP and PUP tried a little link up and rightly so. Cue both of them continuing to get owned at the polling booth.”

    Well at least you’re consistent.

  • lamhdearg

    hey lets all switch over to petes “second night” post, ohh S*** thats right i have got work in the morning, final thought if only the rioters had work, pour more money in, good night.

  • andnowwhat

    Apparently SF reps have kept youths back who have withdrawn. The police have loyalists contained.

  • Comrade Stalin

    I am referring to the republican attacks on Protestant homes last night. Hardly the work of ‘wee dickheads’ as it also involved the shooting of two people. Pretty serious would you not think?

    I thought you were referring to the attacks that we are told took place ahead of last night’s trouble. Extremely serious, and I agree, firearms add an extra dimension that takes it beyond casual public disorder. There can be no excuse whatsoever for their use. I guess you’re trying to paint me into some sort of corner where I’m justifying this crap. Good luck with that. But please by all means keep up the good work you’re doing for the UVF. They need all the help that they can get.

    lamhdearg, I find it very suspicious that there was no attention apparently given to the attacks against the Protestant side until it became necessary to find some sort of excuse to cover for the UVF’s assault on the Short Strand. I draw attention once again to the fact that the PUP spokesperson made no reference to any kind of provocation when he was justifying the UVF’s attack. Maybe people should start reporting or blogging on attacks that are taking place before a paramilitary group decides to use them to justify other things, that way it wouldn’t look so cynical.

    Dewi, according to Brian Rowan (security correspondent), this has been planned for some time and has taken place because the UVF are annoyed about the probing of the PSNI’s historical enquiries team (HET). According to the PUP (UVF linked) spokesperson Jim Wilson, the UVF are generally disaffected and disenfranchised and feel ignored and left out. According to various unionist politicians and contributors here, the UVF felt the need to launch the attack in response to attacks on homes in the N’Ards road area that have taken place lately. Take your pick.

  • Limerick

    “Limerick

    Care to address that the police are regarding an
    attack on them by loyalists as attempted murder?”

    andnowhat,

    I have already condemned all the scummers who were involved in that violence. Do you condemn the attempted murder of the two punters who were actually shot?

  • andnowwhat

    £ shots fired Strand Walk.

    AP photographer shot in leg

  • andnowwhat

    Where’s Turgon on all this?

  • Limerick

    “If those Protestant gentlemen were involved in the UVF’s little expedition, would you expect me to empathise with them?”

    Dublin,

    So you agree with a policy of gunning down rioters. Interesting. Presumably Bloody Sunday doesn’t evoke tears into your Guinness then?

  • Limerick

    “I guess you’re trying to paint me into some sort of corner where I’m justifying this crap. Good luck with that. But please by all means keep up the good work you’re doing for the UVF. They need all the help that they can get.”

    Comrade,

    So my condemnation of the UVF equals good work for them? Interesting mental gymnastics.

  • SK

    “So you agree with a policy of gunning down rioters. Interesting. Presumably Bloody Sunday doesn’t evoke tears into your Guinness then?”

    What an odd tangent.

    Suffice to say I condemn wholeheartedly the violence of both last night and tonight. Bad things happen on both sides when the UVF stirs the pot.

  • Limerick

    “What an odd tangent.

    Suffice to say I condemn wholeheartedly the violence of both last night and tonight. Bad things happen on both sides when the UVF stirs the pot.”

    SK,

    I’m glad that you condemn all rioters.

  • SK

    “I’m glad that you condemn all rioters.”

    I do.

  • ayeYerMa

    Comrade Stalin “We constantly get lectures about how unionists are peace loving and have no truck with terrorists, and yet any time they speak about an event like this it is to provide justification for the actions of loyalist paramilitaries “.

    Sorry, but that is a lot of BS – instead of trying to defend paramilitaries Unionists are merely trying to counteract the well-oiled (or maybe “slimed” would be a better word) Sinn Fein propaganda machine which is solely interested in portraying Unionism in a negative light through the “guilty by association” fallacy. The media of today (especially the likes of the BBC) are quick to jump to report every little bit of Sinn Fein propaganda in order to be “politically correct”. They fall for another fallacy that somehow Sinn Fein and the DUP are equal opposites on the “Overton window”, when in fact Sinn Fein are the more extreme.

    On the heavily unbalanced Channel 4 news report that I saw they only mentioned the Loyalists. I then heard a UUP politician in hysterics at all the violence going on an about how it was madness from all the wee shit-heads all round. All I heard from Sinn Fein was a typical Chris Donnelly-esque sectarian rant about “Loyalists”.

    It’s also funny how the PSNI and the media only ever seem to use these words “dissident” when it comes to Republicans, and “hardline” when it comes to Unionists/Loyalists. They seem to want to brush-over similar involvements of known IRA-men as being so-called “dissidents” in order to keep Sinn Fein in power.

  • Where’s Turgon in all this?

    You may well ask, anw.

    Cat got his tongue? He would be filling pages here if roles were reversed. In common with wee jeffrey, greg and the rest, he is strangely quiet.

  • Brian

    “It’s also funny how the PSNI and the media only ever seem to use these words “dissident” when it comes to Republicans, and “hardline” when it comes to Unionists/Loyalists. They seem to want to brush-over similar involvements of known IRA-men as being so-called “dissidents” in order to keep Sinn Fein in power.”

    Dissidents are upset with SF and PIRA men coming out and ‘acting like peelers’ to stop them from retaliating more than they did against the loyalist attack.

    As for hardline vs dissident…I’m not sure but have the UVF swore off violence and turned in their weapons like the PIRA did? If not, then those UVF men committing violence are not ‘dissidents’ to the offical UVF policy.

  • orly

    SK,

    I am indeed consistent.

    Care to comment on the 100,000 SF voters in the 80s that you seem to conveniently missed? Does it not fit with your view of the world?

  • Nunoftheabove

    ayeYerMa

    “They seem to want to brush-over similar involvements of known IRA-men as being so-called “dissidents” in order to keep Sinn Fein in power”

    I don’t know who they are. Who are they please and how do you happen to be aware of:

    (i) their identity;
    (ii) their membership of these organizations; and
    (iii) their direct involvement in these matters ?

    Who else knows this and have you informed the authorities about the evidence you have which connects them with these events and their membership of illegal paramilitary organizations please ?

    Once you’ve done that, can you also confirm in the interests of health and safety that you have relatively recently consulted a competent physician regarding the fairly advanced persecution complex that appears in danger of overwhelming you altogether ?

  • andnowwhat

    The best summation on what has happened so far that I have seen by a guy on P.ie, username, Grizzly..

    Let’s be very clear about this.

    The UVF launched a coordinated attack on the Short Strand due to tensions within their leadership over HET investigations which are bound to expose the huge number of touts within that organisation.

    On the first night members of Sinn Féin actively defended the area alongside local residents as there was only one police landrover there initially. Unknown republican gunmen also shot two loyalist rioters in the legs. A young nationalist who was walking away from the flashpoint after checking on his uncle was smashed in the back of the head with a breeze-block – he is awaiting brain surgery. Meanwhile the UVF shot at the PSNI.

    On the second night Sinn Féin did a superb job in keeping nationalist youths back and prevented a further escalation. The PSNI held the line on the second night as violence was expected and the only real violence from the nationalist side was a stone throwing fight over the walls at Cluan Place – again the loyalists began this confrontation.

    SF also did a great job in keeping dissident eejits like Óg away and the RNU members are claiming that were chained into an alley to prevent them causing murder (lol). On the same night the dissies arrived from Ardoyne and New Lodge a photographer was shot. It is clear the moron dissidents were attempting to exploit the situation and shoot PSNI officers who were engaged in defending nationalist residents.

    This was completely orchestrated by the UVF from EB and the UDA has even said they are out of control. Young people were brought to the loyalist band hall and given surgical gloves by well known UVF members. The loyalists have to explain themselves.

  • I don’t know where Turgon is but he has consistently condemned “loyalist” thugs and violence from whatever source.

  • Limerick

    andnowhat,

    An interesting summary of the situation and no doubt largely correct. However if SF were doing such a great job in holding back the republican mob how come so many houses on the unionist side were smashed up?

  • andnowwhat

    Don’t know Limerick and judging by tonight’s news, they weren’t able to protect all nationalist’s homes either.

    Probably down to numbers as the dissidents (as did loyalists) had people brought in.