There was one thing worse than Antrim’s performance…

It was the agitprop, banner display that got ignored while Tyrone were knocking them in with ease at the other end.

Talk about having no clue about the flow of a game. Nobody noticed.

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  • al

    Where? When? What? Who?

  • Kevin McIlhennon

    I saw it Mark. I even have a picture of the banner being escorted away from the walkway by the stewards. I think just about everyone on the main terrace saw the ‘SUPPORT THE POWS – RESTORE POLITICAL STATUS’ banner being unfurled. Certainly seemed as if the vast majority of patrons wanted political status restored round about where I was. Liam Hannaway was certainly being talked about. And PSF weren’t getting good reviews.

  • Cynic

    Now there’s a surprise at an Armagh match.

  • Cynic

    Well Kevin, its an easy question. We voted for a new political system. We did a deal. Some people don’t like it and are murdering others to try and impose their own view.

    So do you support that murder? Please tell us now.

  • lover not a fighter

    Oops on your behalf

    Twas Antrim and Tyrone that were competing (though competing may be too strong a word for Mark)

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    “Talk about having no clue about the flow of a game. Nobody noticed.”

    I think I’ve got your drift – a more noticeable protest would have been in order?

    Perhaps you would have preferred a bit more of your old favourite the white line protest with dissers fans walking along the touchline in single file or even better along the goal line with their flags?

    That would have bene very noticeable and tapped into the massive groundswell of goodwill for the dissers which they have built up amongst GAA fans by their self-indulgent campaign and particulalry by their proudest moment in which they blew the legs off the GAA footballer and fluent Irish speaker Peadar Heffron.

    The dissers and their propagandists have some fecking cheek and zero sense of perspective.

  • Kevin McIlhennon

    Cynic, did I say at any point that I was condoning the actions of the RIRA and CIRA? I never and that is because I don’t. I was simply highlighting that many people around me didn’t share PSF’s views. Nowhere in my post did I say I agreed with them. I totally disagree with the actions of some elements of Republicanism and I also disagree with some of PSF’s policies (their pitiful education policy, for example). Now, if you are through twisting what I said (typical PSF tripe to be honest) then I will be willing to have a mature conversation with you. If not, then I would suggest you simply keep quiet and stop darkening this site with your monotonous diatribes.

  • Kevin, are you honestly trying to tell us that the people around you conducted a full blown discussion on the ins-and-outs of political status and even managed to criticise the SF approach to the matter? At a football match. Really? The “vast majority of patrons wanted political status restored” – Really?

    I’ve been attending football games for near on 40 years and even at the height of the Hunger Strikes, when such banners were common, I never once was witness to such a conversation.

  • Cynic

    My immediate apologies. It was too early in the morning for me.

  • Cynic

    Kevin

    One man’s diatribe is another’s freedom of speech

    I asked for clarification and you gave it. Thank you.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Im not actually sure what Mr McGregor is getting at here. Less than 24 hours earlier he started a thread on the Orange Order…..”religion and politics DO mix”.
    Just after 8pm on Saturday I speculated about the prospect of a white line or other protest disrupting the rights of GAA followers (mainly myself of course) around Casement.
    Seemingly in Mr McGregors world, religion and politics should not mix but its acceptable for young children including my 7 year old grandson to be confronted by extreme politics while attending a GAA match.
    In truth opponents of the Orange Order are quick to see “politics” intruding into the religious world of the OO “culture”.
    And opponents of the GAA are quick to see “politics” intruding into the world of GAA “culture”
    Of course I exaggerate. My grandson did not even know there was a protest and neither did I (although I was aware of a disturbance) until someone near me shouted something about there being no protest about “Paddy Heffernan” (sic) and he was quickly shushed bythose around saying “come on now no politics” and such.

    Of course there WERE protests in the 1970s and 1980s but of course those who go to GAA matches in 2010 and expect to see a good protest …….are living in the past……which of course is the thing the dissidents are doing.
    Its a bit like going to Old Trafford and expecting to see some 1970s hooliganism on the Stretford End. Alas as Roy Keane said….Old Trafford and Casement patrons (including my good self) are fully paid up members of the prawn sandwich brigade.
    Of course we could have a robbery of the takings at Casement Park during the next Championship match. Remember that? Belfast lost the Ulster Championship for years. Although it might be difficult to re-enact that now that its nearly all ticket sales……£13 for Gods sake.

    I admit trying to join in a chant about “wheres Jerome Quinn?” a campaign probably enjoying more popularity than the “POWs” (sic). Oddly thats one journalist that Sluggerites are not getting into a frenzy about.
    But Antrim were poor. And not even a better second half takes away from that. Same old club rivalries prevail. I was too close to some Rossa clubmen (not by choice of course) and they were having a go at the St Galls men.
    Nothing changes. Inter club rivalry showing last year wasa flash in the pan.
    In that respect it was still the 1980s.
    Oh kudos to the Tyrone car which went home via Pond Park, Maghaberry and the Moira roundabout.

  • Cynic

    Ps it was the culture of some people around you at the match I was getting at, not you. The view that says ‘we are for the agreement and want a deal but those poor boys that are killing people should be treated differently once they are behind bars’

  • redhugh78

    I don’t think that people didn’t notice the banner but rather they TOOK no notice of it.

  • Seriously, Kevin – I think you’re overstating the quality of discussion that happens during matches at Casement. But since most Antrim supporters tend to spend matches shaking our heads and grumbling into our chests, the confusion is entirely understandable.

  • John Joe, most of the commenters were from Tyrone. Sadly, most of the Antrim ones there were fair weather supporters who I didn’t see during the McKenna Cup or National League. The big giveaway of those who jumped on the bandwagon for Clones last year is that they have the old jerseys but with the new GAA logo on them. Those shirts were released not long before the Ulster Final. It’s always good to have more people getting involved but when they only show up for the big matches, something is wrong. Aontroim Abú!

  • RepublicanStones

    The banner had no place at the match. Outside, by all means. The folks came to see our Red Hands liquid football school your saffrons.

  • It wasn’t a full blown conversation about the politics but they were critical of PSF’s approach. And you will notice I said ’round about where I was’, therefore implying that I don’t know what all 20,000 odd wanted but a lot of ones around me were saying that political status should be restored. And a possible reason for the disparity between 30 years ago and now is that it was commonplace then but it’s a bit of a novelty now and gets people talking.

  • Jean Meslier

    Kevin
    Are you referring to Sinn Fein as not being republican in the following statement?
    “…I totally disagree with the actions of some elements of Republicanism and I also disagree with some of PSF’s policies (their pitiful education policy, for example)…”
    Also re: the education policy.
    Which part is the pitiful bit?

  • jim

    the british minister from the free state thats the pitiful bit

  • Jean, I meant to state that PSF are a different strand of Republicanism to RSF and éirígí et al. They are, of course, Republican. And the pitiful bit is the total scrapping of all academic selection without anything to put into its’ place. If you agree with their policy there, then you know very little about modern education. And PSF can roll out their facts (which they have done many times when I confront them) all they want but anyone can get facts to fit anything at all.

  • JohnM

    Finally got round to watching the game today on iPlayer – I’m in England at the moment and it really annoys me that BBC don’t let you watch the game live online, so I have to wait until Monday afternoon before it is available to watch on the iPlayer.

    Anyway Mark I don’t think you can be too disheartened with Antrim’s performance. Their second half performance was very good I thought.

    CJ McGourty is very useful.. Should have been on from the start.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    if there was one thing worse than Antrims performance, it might have been armaghs. Or the referees.
    But the spirit of demonstration was alive and well at Casement Park with support being demonstrated for the much more justifiable cause of Palestine with two Palestine supporters waving a flag at the Motorway End. Did the cameras pick it up?
    Before the game they were at Moorland park and after the game outside the ground.
    The GAA itself seems to be changing. The changing face of the GAA was literally shown on page 6 of todays programme.
    And as any drummer boy from the 1960s knows the GAA had a slightly peculiar rule about the music that could or could not be played at casement Park.
    “Roddy McCorley” was a “national song” and therefore allowable. But “Sean South” was a “rebel” song and therefore not allowable.
    It is of course traditional for the enthusiastic band from Enniskillen to play a tune that honours the counties playing. “The Boys From the County Armagh” but Dominic Behans “The Patriot Game” (for Monaghan)? Hmmm…….rebel, national or what?
    Anyway no republican prisoner protest. Not I think related to the fact that a leading “dissident” was at the game and did not want his day out spoiled by eejits.
    And on a glorious day (mostly) the PSNI did an excellent job in the vicinity of the Stockmans Roundabout and near the ground. And contributed to the general good atmosphere which I am sure was appreciated by the Gaels.
    Clones Garda could learn a thing or two.

  • JohnM

    I saw the Palestine flags at Casement Park today – I also saw at least one at Markievicz Park during the Sligo – Mayo game yesterday. Good to see the support isn’t fading.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    And of course a Turkey flag outside Casement today.
    Yes I was pleasant surprised to see that many Gaels were very supportive of the demonstration.
    Although there was a running joke about whose side the Palestinian flag waver was on.
    In the first half he was favouring Armagh.
    And the second half he was favouring Monaghan.
    This of course was because it gave him and his mate the opportunity to get on TV as the points were going in at that end.
    He also seemed to facilitated because they were practically on their own. They literally “stood out” in a way that would have been missed if they had just been among the fans.

  • al

    I thought the GAA was supposed to be non-political and discourage things like this on the terraces?

  • HeinzGuderian

    Jebus,Marie and Josephine………….An Israeli flag on the Shankill and they go apoplectic !!!!! Go figure………….

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    al,
    You say it like its a bad thing.
    Im surprised you thought that.
    The GAA is very political and has been since its foundation.Although as its politics was/is nationalist it is not party political.

    and if the pan nationalist front existed, which of course it doesnt….it would play a very important role….
    but as pan nationalism (ie nationalism outside party politics) doesnt exist, why worry?