We’re doomed…

Picked this up from Twitter this morning…

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Ah, the boul Horseman at it again.

  • Salem

    LOL – genius !

  • Rory Carr

    Hardly genius, but a fair reflection of the mood among those likely to be most affected i.e. the less well off.

  • Rory Carr

    Oh! and although I missed it myself my dear one tells me that Hague, when asked on BBC 1’s Breakfast if this was anything like power-sharing arrangement in Northern Ireland replied, “No, not at all. This was an arrangement among rational people”.

    You crazy people you!

  • BROON STUNG BY CLEGG

    “Whaur the midges mazy dance, Clegs dart oot the fiery lance.”

  • Shome mistak!!

    That’s an O2 announcement from last night 🙂

  • Tochais Síoraí

    What exactly is DC going to do if he keeps his promise to come over? Give Reg his going away card & gold watch and get on the plane asap?

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Rory,

    you seem like the kind of chap who might help organise the firing squad when the revolution arrives – so what do you make of the Labour party opting not to go into government with the Liberals but rather deciding they couldnt be arsed and it really was the Tories turn after telling us all only last week that the same Tories would wreck the country?

    Anyone you think should be up agianst the wall first, perhaps the antiSNP* bunch frae Glasgae would be favourtes to booked in for an ealry apointment with their maker?

    *The old political chestnut of the popular front for the liberation of Judea springs to mind – where they both hate each other more than the Tory sasenachs.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Reg will get a seat in the Lords and an apology from Davey for wrecking his party.

  • Michaelhenry

    peter robinson will also get a seat in the house of lords, he can still be first minister now that the D.U.P has said that they will keep on double jobing, now that the elections are over.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    I wonder is Nicky going to have to spend all his time following Davey around to check up that he isnt getting up to any anti-social-right-wingery behind his back?

  • John Joe

    You have to cut the cable ties to get them down, but don’t throw away your election posters.

  • Michaelhenry

    rodney conner in FEARMANAGH SOUTH TYRONE will not need his posters again, the orange order will not allow him a second try, he let the side down old chap.

  • Greenflag

    Nothing vague about Hague then . He has a point . But then the NI people have to work with what has been allowed to them by the ‘rational ‘ folks across the water 😉

  • Greenflag, those Dublin ‘crazies’ still have an input 😉

    PS I wonder if anyone has told Ford about the Dublin role in the justice process.

  • Rory Carr

    Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit,

    I thought it would have been madness for the Labour Party to attempt to form a government with LibDem support in these circumstances. Any such arrangement could not have lasted long before collapsing and Labour would have been destroyed in the resulting general election. Better by far to let the Tories and the LibDems suffer the odium of public resentment at the savagery required to dig the UK out of debt while Labour retrench under new leadership and prepare to reap the benefits of not being the guilty party at the next election.

    As to organising the firing party – well, somebody’s gotta do it.

  • Greenflag

    Yes the upcoming question is how ‘savage ‘ will the cuts be ? Will UK unemployment reach 3 million by Christmas having risen from 1.5 million in 2007/8 to 2.5 million now . It’s difficult to see how this can be avoided even with the Lib Dems on board .

    Tough times for the UK ahead and a major challenge for the new PM . Of course if he manages to steer through the mess without the Scots or NI or Northern England /Wales ‘revolting ‘ then he may have laid the groundwork for a Conservative majority next time .

    Perhaps Cameron is clever enough to make electoral reform work for the Tories rather than against the ‘nasty ‘ party ?

    So will it be 3 million or 3.5 million unemployed by Christmas that is the question and the IMF won’t care either way -as long as the bankers are paid off and the credit rating agencies are content that the Brittanic Isle coughs up the requisite dosh in principle and interest . And if there are no miners left to waste heap this time well there will be others who will be sacrificed to keep the city ‘happy’.

  • Neil

    LOL Tories show their stuff on day one:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/election/article-1277687/DAVID-CAMERON-BECOMES-PRIME-MINISTER-Middle-classes-pay-price-Tory-deal-Lib-Dems.html

    National Insurance hike? Labour policy, adopted by the Tories on day one. All those business leaders who, surprisingly, didn’t want to pay more tax SHOCK! will be most disappointed after campaigning for the liars of the Tory party.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Rory,

    “Any such arrangement could not have lasted long before collapsing ”

    Self serving arguement from the Labour Party, as Paddy Pantsdown said on the day of the Con-Lib deal, a minority Lab-Lib government would not be brought down by the Nats or the DUP. They had the numbers, they just lacked the balls to govern in difficult times – though I have little doubt that El Gordo who had been playing a blinder n recent days would have been up for it if the rest of the jocks in the party hadnt taken to the hills.

    Is there an ‘official’ explanation anywhere from the Labour Party as to why they let the Tories govern?

  • Jay Adams

    Yes we are……..

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    One worse than the other – the Labour party tell everyone the Tories will wreck the country and then they cant be arsed to do a deal with Liberals and put the Tories in power and the Tories tell us Labour NI tax hike will wreck the economy and they do it as soon as they get in.

  • Greenflag

    ‘they just lacked the balls to govern in difficult times ‘

    No they had Ed Balls 😉 Methinks you can wait for the soul searching post electoral post mortem by the Labour Party for the answer .In the meantime blame it all on Gordo for not being a media star .

    A good man all the same and I would have liked to have seen him stay on for at least another two years to steer the UK through the inevitable tough decisions . I suspect GB would have had the stomach to do the necessary but not apparently a large section of the parliamentary party .

    Will the Conservative /Lib Dem coalition hold ? If it doesn’t it will be the Lib Dems who will get it in the neck next time out .
    We forget that many in Labour particularly those in marginal seats where their lead over the Tories is 6% or less were /are not enamoured of any form of PR . It would mean that a lacklustre Labour MP could be outflanked by a liberal with the help of disenchanted labour voters . They might abstain rather than vote Conservative but might turn out for a Lib Dem alternative using preferential voting .

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Greenflag,

    ” good man all the same and I would have liked to have seen him stay on for at least another two years to steer the UK through the inevitable tough decisions ”

    Agree. In the last week his speeches were outstanding, but he was going to go anyway and Miliband can go toe to toe with Clegg and Cameron in media terms so the media attacks were irrelevant in their decision to hand government over to the Tories.

    The SNP line should be that the Labour party gifted the election victory to the Tories rather than talk to the SNP – which is pretty much what happened.

  • daisy

    The white collar equivalent of the miners destruction in the 80s will commence shortly.

    Great to hear the odious ID card scheme is being scrapped, but when they talk about public sector cuts we all know it means the lowest paid (no doubt they’ll outsource to private companies who will not offer any worker protection), not the quangos, nor the overpaid civil servants who haven’t the guts to make decisions but rely on outside consultants to do so. Pensions are going to be linked to the stock market (can’t see a problem with that whatsoever) and our taxes will rise (ie relatively-speaking the lower paid will pay more, regardless of the £10k cap).

    And there isn’t even a modern-day Arthur Scargill to defend the workers. Hold on to your hats.

  • Greenflag

    ‘the white collar equivalent of the miners destruction in the 80s will commence shortly.’

    In a very real economic sense that has been underway since the late 1980’s although it was disguised to a great extent by the financial sector boom , property bubble and the ‘web ‘ revolution.

    The emisseration of the British middle classes has not been as dramatic as that of the USA. The British social safety net has kept the British prison population down . In the USA the prison population is now heading for 3 million . The fact that many state prisons have now been privatised has led to a situation whereby in the interests of ‘profit’ the prisons have to be kept full . Thus there now exists a political lobby of private prison owners who pressure politicians to pass tougher laws to jail criminals .

    The fact that the Conservatives could only manage a 37% popular vote is in itself an indication that many in the British ‘middle’ were reluctant to support the Tories . Cameron may be giving recognition to that fact as can be seen in his chuckie brothers routine with Mr Clegg ?

    Next up watch the British ‘chuckies’ turn into the Brothers Grim .

  • union mack

    you talk some gash

  • Michaelhenry

    your not bad at it yourself.

  • actually has to happen to fund the Lib Dem increase in tax credit.

  • and the bonuses paid to American cop depts. for putting perps behind bars.

    I don’t think we’re that close yet. Can’t see an American Clegg for one.

    But the main point is I don’t understand the word emisseration. Is it good or bad?

  • Greenflag

    Emisseration taken to the nth degree means the return of society to a predominantly two class system with an all powerful wealthy minority /elite at the top and the largest number at the bottom . Think pre revolutionary France or the UK prior to the economic growth of the late 18th and 19th /20th centuries . Pre Revolutionary Russia would be another example . Of course what’s different now is that the ‘masses’ supposedly have democratic rights which one would think they would use to forestall the development of such a retrogressive step . This last and current financial crisis is a good example of how some of the financial elite were able to usurp ‘democracy’ for their own narrow selfish interests with the support in many cases of the political elites and in other cases through the latter’s ignorance of how the ‘world ‘ works

    Heres the word in a somewhat biblical context

    The distribution of resources
    1. Theory of emisseration: Greed will cause the rich to get richer and fewer and the poor to get poorer and increase

    2. Theory of Malthus: Population dynamics versus resources
    3. The ecological balance
    4. God provision for the poor: He cares for the poor (Isa 5:8; 58:6-10)
    5. Specific provisions Ex. 23:10; Lev. 19:9; Deut 14:28
    6. Jubilee restoration Lev. 25: 8-17

  • Greenflag

    BTW I’m not forecasting a two class society in pre Russian revolutionary or even the feudal sense . Even in feudal times there were several classes but in terms of the overall population those who were at the top were an unelected and aristocratic small minority . The townspeople , guilds , artisans , traders , millers etc formed a small skilled section of a growing ‘economic class’ At the bottom of the heap were the vast majority of agricultural peasants .

    Fast forward past the Black Death , Renaissance and Reformation and Industrial revolution into the modern era and what happened was a growth in the numbers in the ‘middle ‘ particularly since 1900 with more wealth being created and being gradually more equitably shared up to the 1970’s from about the 1920’s . Since the late 1970’s while it’s true that even greater wealth has been created through growth and technological advance the income gap between the middle and the top has increased exponentially while that between the middle and those at the bottom has also increased but nowhere near the same extent .

    Along with de-unionisation and the advent of welfare states has come less participation by electorates in western democratic elections . Globalisation has on the one hand increased the supply of cheaper goods to western societies but on the other it has exported jobs and technologies to developing economies while not replacing them with any similar paying alternatives for large sections of the population .

    Thus emisseration . Thus economic problems for the declining middle classes in the USA , Western Europe and elsewhere -Thus the rise in family break ups , dysfunctional families , sink estates , single parent poverty traps etc etc .

    Emisseration for that large section of society which underpins the State is I would think not a good thing for the future of our democracies . Does the economy care ? Don’t care was made care sooner or later by either the ballot or the bullet or in historical times by the guillotine n’est ce pas ?

  • union mack

    good response

  • Yeah, yeah.

    If you had to write those London Underground notices,you’d feel the odd need for a degree of truth, as opposed to the ambiguous “normal service on all lines”.

    Meanwhile, what about a 55% majority to pass a vote of no-confidence? At what percentage is parliamentary democracy really “doomed”?

    With a 55% threshold, Jim Callaghan wouldn’t have been; and Frank Maguire wouldn’t have needed to “abstain in person”.

    Come on, Slugger! Get with the action!