Out of the Bog into the Meadows

While the BBC spent St Patrick’s Day afternoon covering a children’s rugby match, TG4 provided coverage of West Belfast’s St Gall’s bringing the Andy Merrigan Cup to Antrim for the first time and during their centenary year no less.

The match finished St Gall’s 0-13 1-5 Kilmurray-Ibrickane.

And for the first time in a long time I find myself 100% agreeing with a Sinn Féin press release from Gerry Adams

  • Aontroim Abú.

    ..and it would be a fitting tribute to the memory of Roger Casement if the ground named after him hosted Ulster rugby matches.

  • Mark McGregor

    MU,

    Now St Gall’s players have done that job of work I’m hopelessly excited awaiting their focus returning to the Fabulous Baker Boys.

    “Aontroim Abú” – indeed and amen.

  • Driftwood

    I’m sure the viewers about to watch Barcelona v VFB Stuttgart could give a shit. And most of West Belfast are a wee bit more disconsolate over Celtic’s dismal season in the ‘foreign’ SPL.

    Just as they are really concerned about an ‘English’ chief constable running the PSNI and ‘Irishman’ Willie Walsh running ‘British’ Airways.

    I think you’ll find most Irish viewers were watching Channel 4 this afternoon.

    Well done Big Zeb! You made me a slightly richer man today.

  • sdelaneys

    Well done, St Galls and just reward for the hard work.
    Driftwood, I put my tenner on Forpaddytheplaster but was ok as it was each way.

  • Mark McGregor

    Driftwood,

    Sadly, I’m sure you are correct but for us long suffering Gah-ntrim types its another ray of hope. Begrudgery and pathetic TV coverage won’t make the Saffron sunrise any less beautiful.

  • Driftwood,

    “I’m sure the viewers about to watch Barcelona v VFB Stuttgart could give a shit.”

    The plain people of Ulster who aspire to be seen as British would do well to remember that tolerance of and respect for culural diversity and traditon is one of the (mainaland) British people’s oustanding characteristics.

    You are obviously quite a bit of the pace.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Mr McGregor,
    You manage to turn a happy day and turn it into a pathetic point scoring, poltical football (to coin a few phrases).
    Rather obviously the families of the kids playing Rugby and Gaelic Football matches FOR TWO teams were interested in these games. and the wider Ulster Rugby and GAA communities.
    While the Clubs Final clearly appealed to the wider GAA community it necessarily directly affected only one Ulster club.
    I suspect the combined roll at the two rugby schools exceeded St Galls membership.

    And if the All Ireland Clubs Championship was as big a deal as you seem to think……then the Schools GAA would not be arranging their biggest day of the year on THE SAME DAY.

    Anyway Well done St Galls.

  • slug

    Sir Roger Casement’s old school – Ballymena Academy – won the School’s Cup Rugby Match today.

    Well done!

  • Mark McGregor

    FJH,

    Attendance – 34,357. Next.

  • slug

    Fitzjameshorse

    I must say I am having too good a St Patrick’s day (what with my old school winning Schools Cup for the first time ever) to worry about Mark’s pettiness.

  • Mark McGregor

    Capacity of stadium for children’s rugby game – 12,000.

  • Mark,

    as a matter of interest what do you think about playing rugby in Casement Park?

    Would be really good venue for Ireland Under 20s game.

  • Mark McGregor

    MU,

    I’d have no problem with it beyond being sure CCC would waste every penny of the additional cash.

  • cut the bull

    Fair play to St Galls on a well deserved win.I hope there are many more to come

  • slug

    Mark what is the point you are making? Isn’t it good that both events are being covered on TV?

  • Alias

    Broadcasting is an “excepted matter” under the GFA which means that the local administrators of British rule cannot amend the BBC’s Royal Charter to that it gives “parity of esteem” to the non-sovereign Irish nation in that part of the United Kingdom. As the British state’s broadcasting service, the BBC’s Royal Charter states that its function is to promote British national interests, specifically “the UK, its nations, regions and communities.”

    It only promotes the cultural interests of the four nations that comprise the UK, so it has no mandate to cover the cultural affairs of the Irish nation within Northern Ireland:

    [i](1)Four ordinary members of the Trust shall respectively be designated –

    (a)the Trust member for England;
    (b)the Trust member for Scotland;
    (c)the Trust member for Wales; and
    (d)the Trust member for Northern Ireland.

    (3)Each person to be designated under this article shall be suitably qualified by virtue of –

    (a)his knowledge of the culture, characteristics and affairs of the people in the nation for which he is to be designated, and
    (b)his close touch with opinion in that nation.[/i]

    That’s what you signed up to with the GFA, so there is no point complaining that the state does not promote your culture when that is what renouncing your right to self-determination means.

  • Mark McGregor

    Slug,

    I’m making two points:

    .this is an excellent result for St Gall’s and apositive indicator for Antrim football

    .BBC coverage of the GAA is a joke – they devote an entire afternoon to a children’s rugby match and again ignored both the club finals of Hurley and Gaelic Football that finish on the same day

  • George

    Attendance – 34,357. Next.

    Slightly disingenuous there Mark or are you saying nobody came to Croke Park to see Shefflin?

  • FitzjamesHorse

    9.FJH,

    Attendance – 34,357. Next.

    Mr McGregor, can you break that down into Belfast people……and further break it down into how many were dissidents.
    Youre good at that sorta thing.
    Not accurate …..but good.

  • Mrazik

    Slug,

    I’m making two points:

    .this is an excellent result for St Gall’s and apositive indicator for Antrim football

    .BBC coverage of the GAA is a joke – they devote an entire afternoon to a children’s rugby match and again ignored both the club finals of Hurley and Gaelic Football that finish on the same day

    Posted by Mark McGregor on Mar 17, 2010 @ 08:43 PM

    Erm…what about the (Gaelic) football final earlier in the afternoon at…erm…Casement Park?

  • villager

    Mark you seem to be going out of your way not to mention that the BBC also aired a childrens GAA match immediately before that rugby, what’s your problem?

  • FitzjamesHorse

    As the Clubs Championship (Hurling & Football) were covered by RTE and they prolly have a contract anyway and RTE can be picked up by most people here…..(If you cant find it Mr McGregor……its #161 on Sky). Isnt Ros na Run great by the way (thats on #163).
    Among the 34,357 who did not attend at Croke Park were a number of people in St Galls Clubrooms watching it on a great big widescreen TV.
    BBC had cameras in the Club rooms.
    The St Galls members and friends seemed to have no problem locating Channel #161. I am very surprised that Mr McGregor had trouble.

  • slug

    Congratulations to St Galls as an Antrim man myself.

    But Mark, given that RTE and TG4 cover the GAA game, surely it is in the interests of choice that the School’s Cup game is covered by the BBC? I people are able to get all these channels? There is little point in two channels showing the same thing at the expense of another event.

    Also to call the Schools Cup, which is to many in the community an important day of the year, the “chilrden rugby” is very patronising, and comes across as Northern Irish pettiness. The people playing are probably 17 or 18 if I call right!

  • villager

    Great minds Mrazik!

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Mr McGregor,
    Frankly this thread marks a new low. Finding fault where none exists diminishes those who point out real injustices.
    You have made yourself look extremely childish.

  • Munsterview

    Naomh Gall ar aghaidh, Abu is na milte Abu! Comhghairdeas daoibh go léir!

    Many a Twenty-Six county club better resourced and with an overwhelming G.A.A. culture in their area would give their collective right arms to be where Naomh Gall are tonight. Heartiest congratulations are well due and deserved

    Do reir ‘ adhmad caite ar an tra’ is a caint fe cac, thagann cac eile i meabhair; ‘Cac ‘san tobar’. Na bach e na a leitheid!

    As to the comments of ‘driftwood’ appropriate from somebody obviously adrift from any generosity of spirit. There is a way of describing that attitude in Irish and it is not ‘spoilsport’!

  • Mrazik

    Where’s Jimmy fuckin’ Savile when you need him, eh Mark? He’d have fixed it for you…

  • Mark,

    not being a massive fan of GAA I probably dont notice when stuff is not shown as perhaps you do, but there appears to be parity of broadcasting time in the news and sports round-up programs which seem to me to be totally free of any bias.

    For example this evening – didn’t the BBC news lead the sports coverage with the St Gall’s?

  • We probably need more joint RTE BBC planning and broadcasting.

  • Mark, you are missing the fact that the McRory Cup final was on the BBC immediately prior to the rugby. I;m not defending the Beeb’s GAA coverage as it as poor as UTV’s at present. But there is no point in leaving out that they did show the MNcCrory, just to make your point.

    I see Gerry Adams spelt the name of the club right this time; after the Corofin victory he congratulated “St Gauls”.

  • Mark McGregor

    snowstorm and others,

    For some reason I think the final of the club championships trumps children’s games be they GAA or rugby. Guess its an odd thought for some of you.

    Just like its a ‘foreign’ thought for the BBC.

  • slug

    MU: “We probably need more joint RTE BBC planning and broadcasting. ”

    Indeed. Now that RTE is to be available Northern Ireland digital and BBC to be available in ROI digital, I would hope we can avoid the same thing being shown on both channels at the same time.

  • villager

    Mark, you were trying to make a petty tribalist point about the BBC not covering gaelic games. The fact that the McCrory cup was shown immediately prior to the rugby didn’t fit in with your story so you didn’t mention it.

  • Just watched more excellent coverage on the BBC NI 10.30 news.

    slug,

    exactly.

  • Driftwood

    FFS
    Most Irish, North and South, were watching Cheltenham.
    Mark, given your problem with an English Chief Constable, do you have a problem with Willie Walsh leading British Airways?
    I note you have nothing to say about the poor oppressed BA workers who are going on strike.
    You refer to a ‘childrens’ Rugby game when the GAA and Football games were also school games.
    Your heads up yer arse.
    Congrats to Barcelona (and Lionel Messi)and Barry Geraghty (and Big Zeb).
    Oh! and Internazionale, and the Special One. great stuff.

  • Driftwood,

    you appear to be in denial about the popularity of GAA, you need to try and see past your prejudices which represent a sectarian strain in many Irish people in Ulster which unfortunately reinforces the view of many British people that we are just mad Paddies.

    Just relax and enjoy your Irishness – it’s St Patrick’s day.

  • Driftwood

    Sammy
    My ‘Irish’ mindset won me £400 at Cheltenham over the past 2 days.

    And my 2 quid bet on Inter to win 1-0 added to this. Chelsea being a ‘unionist’ team and all that. although John Terry is a ‘moderate unionist’ like yourself.
    Very relaxed.

    you appear to be in denial of the ‘Irish’ love of horse racing and it’s affinity with British royalty.
    Relax and enjoy being one of Her Majesty’s subjects.
    Martin McGuinness seems to.

  • Driftwood,

    “you appear to be in denial of the ‘Irish’ love of horse racing and it’s affinity with British royalty. ”

    Where did you get that from you barking mad Paddy?

  • Driftwood
  • Paddy (Driftwood)

    where have I whinged about the Queen and Irish horses you great Irish nitwit?

  • Skintown Lad

    Typical petty MOPEry from you, Mark McGregor. If you can’t present a balanced and fair view on this, why should anyone believe you next time you winge about the police? You’re showing yourself to be about nothing but manufactured grievance and spin.

  • jtwo

    I note that the hated bigots of the BBC once again insulted Gaels everywhere today by:
    a) Running a St Galls follow up at the top of their main TV sports report.

    b)Featuring the team prominently on their news website.

    Let’s have a white line picket on Ormeau Avenue.