Straight up for St Patrick

Mick has already noted Gerry Adams attendance at one St Paddy’s dinner. Dinners and other aspects of his visit are being presented in a very different manner elsewhere and certainly not as a ‘smoking’ issue but an ‘anti women and gay schedule’.

“I am against exclusion, I am for inclusivity”

‘Gerry Adams to attend straight-only parade after night in men-only club‘.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    “Irishman attends St Patricks Day Parade shock”

  • Mark McGregor

    None so blind.

  • lamhdearg

    I have asked this question before on slugger (without response) Is there anyone out there from west belfast,who voted for Gerry before but because of his actions(or lack of them)will not vote for him in May?.

  • Pete Baker

    The key point being that certain locally elected representatives have refused to make appearances in either the private club or the pre-St Patrick’s parade on principle.

    As the breakingnews.ie report points out

    The West Belfast MP spoke at the Clover Club last night for the Irish America Partnership charity.

    Massachusetts governor Devale Patrick refused to appear there in December because it is an all-male club.

    Mr Adams plans to take part in the pre-St Patrick’s march through Boston later today.

    Boston mayor Thomas Menino refuses to attend because homosexuals are not invited.

  • Drumlins Rock

    I’m guessing that his vote will be down a bit lamh, but probably more to do with general apathy than anything else, although I guess some of these things can feed the apathy so to speak.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Some eminent politicians and journalists will be attending their Freemason Lodge this week. No women of course.

  • Mark McGregor

    lamhdhearg,

    Slugger is unique, we have Moderate Unionists and people above politics that don’t support SF but leap to their defence but bizarrely we don’t have seem to have anyone willing to admit membership or supporting them.

  • Mark,

    if you are hoping that SF are going to do an ‘anglican church’ over this issue you will be very disappointed. As you should know well by now Republicans have a canny knack of being simultnaeously for and against many things as long as such things are seen to be to the advantage of the Republican cause – they are a very, very broad church.

  • Mark,

    ..and talking of funny feckers, we have yourself, who as I understand it, does not support the ‘armed struggle’ but always seems to be keen to offer political cover for those involved and to jump up and down every time the PSNI endeavour to takes some of the bad dogs off the streets.

    Your position requirs some expert pinhead dancing that even Pete Baker the pinhead dancer extrordinaire would be proud of and with whom who can often, I am amused to observe, often find common cause in your mutual quest to lay some shit on Belfast’s and Ireland’s and Irish America’s most popular politican.

    Must be very frustrating for the pair fo you.

  • Mark McGregor

    Indeed Sammy…my position is most unclear I’m sure for a shinner become ‘moderate unionist’

  • Jimmy Sands

    Is the argument that SF should advocate a more inclusive sectarianism?

  • 0b101010

    At least if there’s no women at those clubs the RA can’t sexually abuse them.

  • Framer

    The law of the Irish exception means that normal rules on discrimination are suspended where ireland and Irish people are concerned.

    Those oppposing the exception need to be warned about their obtuse and potentiallty illegal behaviour.

    This law is in line with international human rights standards and endorsed by the Equality Commission.

  • Eileen Calder

    The Ancient Order Of Hibernians have an absolute right to decide which banners and badges it will permit at its St Paddy’s Day Parades in Boston and New York.

    If they wish to EXCLUDE Gay banners on the basis of religious beliefs they are required by United States legislation TO PAY FOR the extra policing etc required at such RELIGIOUS events. They don’t do this. The rate-payers of the Cities involves do.

    Either it is a PUBLIC and secular event at which all should be welcome, deserving of city funding or it is a sectarian event at which these ridiculous “Irish”-Americans are portraying our country as a nation of backward, bigoted, sexist, homophobic, corn-beef and cabbage eating, morons, for which the AOH should foot the bill itself.

    Gerry Adams attendance at one of these parades is almost as offensive as the Trimble and Paisley Garvaghy Road Jig. Why can’t our politicians stay at home on St Pat’s Day? of (all days)- too much junketing and not enough work done. Are they afraid of the reception they might get on the streets of Belfast or Dublin? Top Of The Morning to all you “Irish”-Americans out there.

  • Macanna

    Eileen ” bigoted, sexist, homophobic, corn-beef and cabbage eating, morons” seems to sum us up pretty well actually going by what is posted here most of the time.

  • Macanna

    Although personally I am not to fond of corned beef:)

  • FitzjamesHorse

    It is of course utterly wrong for anyone to exclude Gays from parades in Boston, NYC wherever.
    I also think its wrong to exclude the Irish flag from celebrations of Irishness in Belfast

  • old school

    …or Wolfe Tones afficinados at an Orange rally.

  • Kevsterino

    and the rest of the day to yourself, Eileen.

    I can’t stand corn beef, enjoy cabbage less and haven’t had a green beer in years.

    In St. Louis, we have 2 parades. One downtown for everybody and one in the neighborhood for the hibes and supporters.

    I haven’t been to the one downtown since they hung the tricolo(u)rs upside-down a few years back.

    I haven’t seen any indications of sexism in the parades. With the gay folks it has been an up and down affair, but I blame that more on Anita Bryant and that bunch than I do the hibernians.

  • Eileen Calder

    These are the views of the AOH -John Dunleavy – 2006 March Organiser

    “If an Israeli group wants to march in New York, do you allow Neo-Nazis into their parade? If African Americans are marching in Harlem, do they have to let the Ku Klux Klan into their parade?”

    Referring to the Irish Lesbian and Gay Organization, Dunleavy said,

    “People have rights. If we let the ILGO in, is it the Irish Prostitute Association next?”

    NO JOHN – I THINK YOU SHOULD INVITE OUR MRS ROBINSON TO BE YOUR GRAND MARSHALL – YOU SEEM TO HAVE A LOT IN COMMON – unless of course you believe that the holocausts and lynching were not abominations.

  • Reader

    FitzjamesHorse: …exclude the Irish flag from celebrations of Irishness in Belfast
    Translation: “exclude national flags from a cross-community celebration of Saint Patrick in Belfast.”
    And goodness knows what you imagine Easter is really about.

  • Kevsterino

    But Eileen, when people organize a parade, do they not have the right to include whomever they want?

    I think all the hoopla about people’s right to advertise their sexual orientation in any forum the choose is a lot of foolishness.