“These Holy Warriors, reportedly operating in the name of Jesus…”

Who says Muslims don’t do irony? A rather pithy post from MPAC on the bomb left by ‘Catholic terrorists’ in Newry… It’s a slightly round peg jammed in a square hole, but the line “…representative of the beliefs of many millions of Catholics around the world” gives a sense of some frustration about the reporting of “Islamist terrorism” as though it and the whole religion was coterminous.

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  • Keithbelfast

    “If you see any Christians acting suspiciously, especially those dressed as nuns or ‘men-of-the-cloth’, don’t hesitate to contact the police immediately and let the authorities decide whether or not they pose a threat.”

  • coconnor

    Catholicism is actually a really good religion to use as a basis for religious terrorism. Original sin means everyone is guilty, and confession is available to cleanse your sins afterwards.

    Then you can compare yourself to Jesus and you’re set.

  • Spotty Muldoon

    The other great thing about Catholicism is you can decide the police don’t know how to punish “sin” and go out and do it yourself. On your knees, boy. Bang. Bang.

  • John O’Connell

    Not a bad post, Mick. The reality is that many of these Catholic terrorists are motivated by their perception of the superiority of Catholicism over other religions. They are superior in other words.

    I know of one dissident supporter who has a degree in history and thinks that this legitimises his right to support violence against the opposition. He believes that Catholics are superior and that they have a right to destroy this state.

    When you put the fundamental tenets of Christianity to him about love and loving even your enemies he says that Christ didn’t really mean that. In other words he thinks that you can know Christ in hate.

    So such people do exist and the Muslims are right about the hypocrisy of “Christians” in this regard.

  • John O’Connell

    I should add that the whole purpose of Christianity is to enable weaker-gened people to slow down economic growth and such like and create instead a world of equals where sharing and caring are the order of the day. So being superior is completely anathema to Christians and Jesus Christ would turn in his grave if he thought that anyone was using his message to assert their superiority. Isn’t that what the Romans did? Isn’t that what the British did?

    Dissident superiority is inverted inferiority of the Irish in historical military terms. By the time we would become superior we would just as bad as the British and I think that the Little Englander Irishman in the dissident wants that.

  • An Phoblacht Abu

    Im not sure any of the current day members of republican groups give one toss about being catholic to be honest

  • Dec1

    Who says Muslims don’t do irony?

    Just not very well. I suggest MPAC do a bit of research on how Irish people (of all hues) were treated in GB back in the 70s and 80s, when flying to Belfast out of Heathrow meant several hours of herding and ‘facilities’ that would make cattle blush and ‘acting suspiciously’ was shorthand for ‘speaking with an Irish accent’.

  • Paddy

    Protestant extremist Willie Frazer does the same line on his web site.

    Of course, just like Muslim extremmists, there are many other factors at work.

  • JR

    As any one of you that have tried to explain the conflict here to anyone foreign will know the irony will be lost on most outside the north.

  • Driftwood

    Racism and sectarianism raises its ugly head elsewhere..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/north_east/8533791.stm

    Obscene.

  • Dec1

    Driftwood

    I’d be interested to hear how you arrived at the conclusion that an ‘Anyone but England’ t-shirt is sectarian.

  • slappymcgroundout

    “…the reporting of “Islamist terrorism” as though it and the whole religion was coterminous.”

    Lincoln: As I would not be a slave so I would not be a master.
    Ali Sina: As I would not be dhimmi, so I would not be Muslim.

    When you find the absence of terror in either of those paradigms, Mick, please let me know.

    Oh, and Mick, when you see the same protest over 9/11, Madrid and London that you did over those cartoons…

    Next:

    “EU officials are working on what they call a “lexicon” for public communication on terrorism and Islam, designed to make clear that there is nothing in the religion to justify outrages like the September 11 attacks or the bombings of Madrid and London.

    ‘Certainly “Islamic terrorism” is something we will not use…we talk about ‘terrorists who abusively invoke Islam’,” an EU official told Reuters.”

    That was from 2006. You all decided yet? To borrow from the late George Carlin, the PC version is always longer than the original. So, in lieu of “Islamic Terrorism”, I would suggest “Mohammed-related unpleasantness”. In the meantime:

    Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been made victorious through terror.”–Bukhari 4:52.220

  • [quote][i]He believes that Catholics are superior and that they have a right to destroy this state. [/i] …. Posted by John O’Connell on Feb 24, 2010 @ 11:49 AM[/quote]

    The Real SMART Catholic would Show the State how to Change.

    Surely you have QuITe Enough Latent and Still Developing Dormant IT Power to Realise Anything you Desire Madly and Badly Enough and Passionately

  • John O’Connell

    The Real SMART Catholic would Show the State how to Change.

    Too true. But if you’re not simply smart but superior due to your religious faith being superior, you don’t have to argue with anyone about what you do to this state. You simply are mandated by your superiority to destroy it by hook or by crook.

    The same mindset exists within some unionist minds who assert their cultural supremacy and expect everyone else to get out of the road, the Garvaghy Road.

    Superiority is clearly all in the mind of the inferior.

  • For a long time scholars simplistically removed religion from the 16th century Wars of Religion; now we have idiots putting it in where it’s irrelevant.

  • Paddy

    Being a Protestanrt hardliner, Driftwood probably wants to see all manifestations of anything as being somehow anti Protestant.

    England v Scotland is the oldest “international” in the world anmd the t shirt which offends his smug supreamcism is probably a reflection of that (and how Scotland has fallen). Probably little to do with the teams the UFF love to hate.

    As England supporters are such brawlers, ABE probably makes sense there too.

    Most likely it is a local reflection of anyone but Man U, Chelsea etc.

    Wouldn’t Ireland (and Scotland)be nice if it could be cleansed??

  • Macanna

    John “Jesus Christ would turn in his grave ” . Where can I visit the grave, I was wondering where to take the kids on holidays this year.

  • John O’Connell

    macanna, is this just a way of saying that you’re superior? Take a look in the mirror and there you’ll find the answer.

  • Coll Ciotach

    I have read some bull shit in my time but this is a midden of gargantuan proportions

  • Macanna

    No john, its called a joke, I have no superiority complex. nice try though.

  • Ramzi Nohra

    yeah slappy is right.. this is irony but not done well.

    Compare and contrast Real IRA and al-Queda statements.

    When was the last times republican mentioned god in a statement – the Easter proclamation?

    Also nod to Declan, the Muslims arent the first to feel widespread suspicion, and I would think there is more consciousness of islamaphobia now than there was of “hiberno-phobia” in the 70s and 80s….

  • Ramzi Nohra

    yeah slappy is right.. this is irony but not done well.

    Compare and contrast Real IRA and al-Queda statements.

    When was the last times republican mentioned god in a statement – the Easter proclamation?

    Also nod to Declan, the Muslims arent the first to feel widespread suspicion, and I would think there is more consciousness of islamaphobia now than there was of “hiberno-phobia” in the 70s and 80s….

  • John O’Connell

    Sorry Macanna. My mistake.

  • mcclafferty

    You can’t compare Muslim terrorists to the IRA. al-Queda’s goal is to kill “ALL INFIDELS” (that’s anyone who isn’t a muslim) so how can you compare the two? That’s just nonsense.