Robbo’s baacckkkk….

[was he ever ‘away’ – ed] Hmmm… That’s one enquiry down, how many more to go?

  • Cynic2

    I have started so I will finish …….

  • Cynic2

    Do PSNI normally work that quickly?

  • Kevsterino

    Does this mean he has his wife sorted?

  • Alias

    The PSNI don’t but QCs do if you don’t make the mistake of paying them by the day. 😉

    He’s not on the clear yet since the State still has him in a bind. But if he does a deal of P&J then the State will go easy. He might even pick up a nice settlement from its broadcasting service for libel.

  • joeCanuck

    If an application was made to squash a super-injunction affecting someone from N.I., would the application be heard in Belfast or London?
    And would the person being protected have to appear in person at the Hearing?

  • Panic, these ones like it up em.

    Return in haste repent at leisure.

  • Alias

    As far as I know, a so-called “super-injunction” is only applicable in the seperate legal jurisdiction of England/Wales. A suppression order can be issued by any criminal court for a case before the court.

  • iluvni

    Northern Ireland needs an election immediately.

    That this arrogant little man can resume the role so quickly is an absolute affront to any semblance of decency and honour.
    This truly turns my stomach…he and his party must surely know its not in the best interest of the country that we have a First Minister with questions hanging over his and his wife’s conduct over recent times…yet, do they care? Do they f**k. Party before country everytime.

    Disgusting.

  • Kevsterino

    If you got rid of all the question-marky guys, who would be left?

  • Alias

    Kev, decent people? I despair of political parties. If there was one constitutional reform I could make related to democracy then it would be to abolish political parties and only allow individuals to stand for office. That way you would allow the public to select quality people to hold public office rather than only allowing them to select from the self-serving careerist muppets that the parties nominate as candidates.

  • Kevsterino

    A very good friend of mine promotes the theory of drafting the President of the United States. He maintains anyone who seeks that much power is defective.

  • Kevsterino

    and Alias, don’t “decent people” vote Ulster Unionist, or was that just more party shenanigans.

  • Harry J

    That this arrogant little man can resume the role so quickly is an absolute affront to any semblance of decency and honour……….

    please tell us what Robinson has done wrong as well as your name and where his lawyers can contact you

  • Panic, these ones like it up em.

    iluvni said

    ” That this arrogant little man can resume the role so quickly is an absolute affront to any semblance of decency and honour. ”

    Robinson definitely is way too arrogant. How is it that so many of the “servants of the people become so arrogant”

    Elections and particular defeat in elections is the perfect way to burst the overblown egos of said politicians.

    Let them have it !

  • Stewart

    ‘If there was one constitutional reform I could make related to democracy then it would be to abolish political parties and only allow individuals to stand for office. That way you would allow the public to select quality people to hold public office rather than only allowing them to select from the self-serving careerist muppets that the parties nominate as candidates.’

    Any individual can stand for public office and voters can vote for them if they want.

    What quality individuals do you think should stand for public office?

    Sounds like the wishy-washy nonsense you hear from the hand picked audiences of Let’s talk & other ‘discussion’ shows on local television.

  • Garza

    Can someone explain to me what has changed since he stepped down?

    He told us he was stepping down to 1) take care of his sick wife, 2) clear his name.

    He has done neither!

    Was him stepping down just a charade, engage in P&J to take the heat and the media off his own personal problems, then hoping the story will die down so as to waltz back in??

    How arrogant! How stupid does he think the public is?

  • Mrazik

    Maybe Brutus was sniffing round. It’s almost March after all…

  • jtwo

    Doubtless he will want to publish this legal opinion.

    Otherwise malicious people may be tempted to speculate about how ‘forward leaning’ the advice is.

    Forward leaning being legal-speak for an opinion which is maximally supportive of a client’s position even if such an opinion is not reflective of the majority of legal opinion.

  • ardmaj55

    Mrazik [17] Robinson must have little or no respect for the office he’s holding to go back while his wife still hasn’t been held to account. Very convenient that psychiatric condition since she knows where the bodies are buried. Both of them are scruples free. The DUP assembly group will have to make a call tomorrow night, and in the meantime, nothing has filtered out from these ‘talks since the flare up on monday at the earlier meet. SF made clear on tuesday, there would be no renegotiation after that. This weekend surely must be the end of this interminable saga. It seems to have lasted longer than Brideshead Revisited already.

  • you report on this news by saying “robbo’s back”, what is that?

  • Alias

    Kev, decent people vote for the candidate nominated for the applicable public office by the political parties. The selection is not made by the public but by the cabal who control the nomination process within each party. If the main parties select wee shits, then the public can only vote for said wee shits.

    These parties always put their own interests before the national interest, inevitably damaging the interest of the nation that they were elected to serve. It’s the flaw that often prevents a government from doing what is unpopular but necessary and that keeps the fiscal vision within the election cycle. In reality, national sovereignty is conferred upon these cabals parties since their polices can dispose of it, and more often the disposal is not disclosed as a policy but presented as an unforeseen expediency. All the EU has to do is bribe these parties with loads of well-paid jobs for the members, and they will always put their own interests ahead of the national interest. The party political system is destructive to the national interest, to sovereignty, and to democracy.

    A vote for an independent is never a vote for a government. That’s the system.

  • Stewart

    Alias

    As i asked earlier, what quality individuals do you think should stand for public office?

  • Alias

    “What quality individuals do you think should stand for public office?” – Stewart

    Well, let’s put it in reverse: who shouldn’t stand for public office. Mediocre former estate agents; dime-a-dozen divorce lawyers; teachers on leave of absence; members of murder gangs; PR consultants; et al – i.e. the mediocre muppets who are currently elected.

    Who should stand for office? The great and the good that would never be selected by political parties, and would never entertain the notion. Who would they be? Well, so as not to alienate all lawyers, how about senior partners is law firms or others professionals who have demonstrated exceptional ability in their respective fields? Successful business people – the more the merrier.

  • Banjaxed

    It all ain’t over till it’s over. What he’s got so far is an opinion from his own lawyer. The cops haven’t finished their exhumations yet but their enquiries may depend very much on their terms of reference – how wide, how deep, are they looking for more bodies, etc, etc. And, then again, who knows what goodies in the form of ‘get outta jail’ free cards could be available should agreement be reached. Never-never Land could mean whatever anyone wants it to mean.

  • Alias

    Incidentally, leaders of political parties never promote anyone who presents a threat to their position. So what you end up with is a race to the bottom, with one mediocre leader promoting more mediocre people from whom the next leader is selected.

    Think that is a myth? Look at Fianna Fail. Each leader has been weaker than the last.

  • iluvni

    Do the DUP believe there is ‘community confidence’ in Robinson as First MInister?

  • Storm

    Can someone tell me at what point was he looking after his very sick wife? This is yet another tactical move – this time it’s to stop the dissenters in the DUP from voting against the deal being presented to them tomorrow!

  • I don’t remember him clearing his name

  • Driftwood

    Comebacks are rarely successful and usually shortlived….

    Hello, Hello. It’s good to be back, it’s good to be back.
    Hello, Hello. It’s good to be back, it’s good to be back.

    Did you miss me, Yeah, while I was away,
    did you hang my picture on your wall
    Did you kiss me, Yeah, every single day,
    although you couldn’t kiss me at all.
    And did you love me, Yeah, like a good little girl,
    Did you tell that naughty boy not to call,
    did you love me, Yeah, in your own little world,
    Although you couldn’t see me at all,
    although you couldn’t see me at all,

    Hello, Hello, it’s is good to be back, it’s good to be back,
    Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, I’m back again, I’m back,
    I’m on the right track,
    Hello, Hello tell all your friends I’m back, I’m back as a matter of fact,
    as a matter of factI’m back

    Did youmiss me me, Yeah, while I was gone,
    Did you ‘hug your pillow in your bed
    Did you kiss me, Yeah, all night long and treasure every word I said
    And did you want me, Yeah, to come back again
    Did you know I’ve been so far away, did you want me, Yeah,
    Did you tell all your friendsto think about me every day
    To think about me every day

    Hello, Hello, it’s is good to be back, it’s good to be back,
    Hello, Hello, it’s is good to be back, it’s good to be back,
    Hello, Hello,I’m back again, I’m back, I’m back I’m on the right track,
    And did you miss me, Yeah, while I was away,
    did you hang my picture on your wall,
    Did you miss me, Yeah, every single day,
    although you couldn’t kiss me at all,
    although you couldn’t kiss me at all,

    Hello, Hello, it’s is good to be back, it’s good to be back,
    Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello, I’m back again, I’m back, I’m on the right track,
    Hello, Hello, it’s is good to be back, it’s good to be back,

    Goodness, Gracious, Hello, Hello……

  • Now, c’mon fellas: you have to laugh!

    Or (back to first thoughts) are things so desperate for the DUP that … ?

  • Medillen

    Spinning heads create strange thoughts. Anybody heard from DUP supporter Paul lately?

  • Driftwood

    BBC are showing Iris showing her face for the first time since ‘going away’..

    Strangely subdued I thought.

  • Since power corrupts, we need an assumption of corruption act. Any powerful person (at least Ministers and Permanent Secretaries) should be assumed to be corrupt until they have proved otherwise. They should go to prison one day a year, and not be let out until they have proved beyond reasonable doubt that they have done nothing unethical in the past year.

    Since money corrupts, this could also be applied to millionaire developers.

  • Stewart

    “What quality individuals do you think should stand for public office?” – Stewart

    “Well, let’s put it in reverse: who shouldn’t stand for public office. Mediocre former estate agents; dime-a-dozen divorce lawyers; teachers on leave of absence; members of murder gangs; PR consultants; et al – i.e. the mediocre muppets who are currently elected.@

    Well, try answering the question, for the third time of asking….What quality individuals do you think should stand for public office?

    As i’ve said, you sound like the usual wishy-washy internet type knob who can’t respond to a simple question.

    Book your tickets for the next live show, you might get your face on tv & get a few claps from the rest of the irrelevent eegits who are hand picked to appear on the usual television guff that pretends to be reality.

  • tacapall

    No such thing as a free lunch in politics, P+J coming soon.

  • ardmaj55

    Alias [25] no need to stop there. What about Thatcher promoting Major, or John Hume promoting Durkan. They’re so vain, they are determined that their name should be guaranteed a place in history that they’re prepared to condemn the future of their country to mediocrities. enough said. Enoch Powell was right about one thing. All political careers end in failure. Such a pity he was such a racist.

  • rdmaj55 @ 12:44 AM:

    Sorry: proposing sympathy for any politician, especially Enoch Powell, is pushing too far.

    For the record, the full version of Powell’s 1977 truism is:

    All political lives, unless they are cut off in mid-stream at a happy juncture, end in failure, because that is the nature of politics and of human affairs.

    Fair enough: Dryden had reached that conclusion around 1683, inevitably borrowing the conceit from classical originals:

    All human things are subject to decay,
    And, when Fate summons, monarchs must obey
    …”

    which, incidentally is the opening of Mac Flecknoe, A Satire upon the True-blue Protestant Poet T[homas].S[hadwell]..

    The same thought is in Robert Burns:

    Ah, but a man’s reach should exceed his grasp,
    Or what’s a heaven for?

    Anne Bronte neatly reversed that with:

    But he that dares not grasp the thorn
    Should never crave the rose.

    There’s a curious thread running through that lot: Richard Flecknoe is often (wrongly) assumed to be Irish; the Brontes adapted their Prunty name to imply a connection with Lord Nelson (and Prunty was Anglicised from Ó Proinntigh), Burns’s daughter married into the Belfast Everitt family (which is how the Linenhall Library came to receive family papers) and Powell’s afterlife in South Down. [Editor: Umm, Malcolm, that’s reaching for a linkage beyond logical grasp.]

    Surely, the only credible and acceptable motive for attempting a political career is some form of ideology: some aspirational belief to improve society? Anything else is opportunism and self-aggrandisement. Which brings us back to soliciting money from property developers.

  • Pigeon Toes

    The Standards and Privileges Committee, suspended their investigation whilst police inquiries are ongoing.

    Therefore if Mr Robinson has been cleared by the police, then they should be able to start their inquiry. (Which means that Mr Robinson has not cleared his name and should step down)

    If the police inquiries are still ongoing, Mr Robinson has not cleared his name and should step down.

    In the interests of transparency the sole legal opinion that Mr Robinson is relying on must be published in full.

    Wonder if such “justice” will be part of the proposed deal?

  • 0b101010

    Can’t find the article now, but I vaguely remember reading that a member the DUP had threatened to resign immediately on Monday over something unrelated to the P&J negotiations. Made me wonder how directly related that was to Robinson taking back the helm.

    If I were in the DUP, I wouldn’t want Robinson leading my party into an election… unless the alternatives had nastier skeletons in their closests.

  • Panic, these ones like it up em.

    Robinson returns to First Minister to make it more difficult for his loyal colleagues to do him down.

    There is too much instability within the Dup to do a deal.

    Its better to have joint Westminister/Stormont elections.

    Politicians like elections don’t they. Thats when they remind us they are the servants of the people. Mind you how quickly they forget if elected

  • Banjaxed

    Arising out of what I said above on Page 1, #24, that ‘It ain’t over till it’s over’, it now transpires that despite the undertaking that PR gave some time ago that he would donate one of his salaries to his party, no record exists of any payment over £5000. (Anything under, AFAIK, doesn’t need to be declared – we therefore don’t know if he gave anything at all).

    Yet another little example of a DUP politician’s amnesia, pace Baby Doc, when it comes to money and/or property?

    Malcom Redfellow above quotes Burns to illustrate his point. I’m also reminded of Burns. The title of his ballad, ‘Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation’ illustrates mine.

  • My sincere thanks to Banjaxed @ 09:43 AM for that mental nudge. Eerie how an anti-Union ballad, full two centuries old, could be a thrust against UCUNF, Cameroonist meddling, and Hatfield House’s shady dealings:

    What force or guile could not subdue,
    Thro’ many warlike ages,
    Is wrought now by a coward few,
    For hireling traitor’s wages.
    The English steel we could disdain,
    Secure in valour’s station;
    But English gold has been our bane —
    Such a parcel of rogues in a nation

    Best of all it should be sung by Dick Gaughan (there’s a 30-sec clip at last.fm for a taster). Or the late Alistair Hugget (funeral today, I hear) could have worked up a bit of emotion. Youtube has a decent Luke Kelly effort.

    However one takes it, Burns’s lyric is too reflective, too restrained, too heavy in irony for this moment. What I want here, to do full justice, is a full-blooded bilious rant.

  • Banjaxed

    Malcolm: ‘What I want here, to do full justice, is a full-blooded bilious rant’.

    Would this WW2 song suffice with the 1st & 4th words aptly substituted to suit one’s bile?

    ‘Bless ’em all, bless ’em all
    The long and the short and the tall…’

    As to my use of Burns’ ‘Such a Parcel…’, the reason why I was careful to use the title only was, as you clearly demonstrated, that its content broadens the topic too much. I was trying for the cartoon rather than the full oil painting! 🙂

  • Banjaxed @ 10:44 AM:

    It may be my on-going redecoration project, but I fully appreciate the “full oil painting” reference (why did they use those complicated mouldings for cornices and skirting-boards? They’re an embuggerance.)

    My idea of a paintbrush-bearing rant, ably accompanied by Alistair Hulett on iPodTouch, is more along the lines of Hulett’s song (which borrows from Burns and elsewhere):

    As a child I was raised on salted oats
    And tales of the savage past.
    I learned to love the drifting rain
    And winter’s icy blast;
    And all day long on the Holy Isle,
    Far out in Lamlash Bay,
    I walked the hills in creaking shoes
    Where the bones of the old ones lay,
    And at night the head of Wallace bled
    On solemn floral drapes,
    And the flower of Scotland bloomed again
    Among Proddy dogs and Papes.

    I was taught in school how Britannia’s rule
    Was forced on the Scots of old,
    Bought and sold by a parcel of rogues
    For a handful of English gold,
    Till our fate was sealed on Culloden field
    When the blood of the clans ran down,
    Through the twisted sea of history
    To the streets of Glasgow town,
    Where at night the head …

    On the long summer nights, when the northern lights
    Burned the sky like acetylene,
    The prods and tykes they fought on the dykes
    That ran round the housing scheme.
    With sticks and stones we broke our bones
    For the sake of the good old cause
    That has kept our country bound and chained
    Under British laws,
    But at night the head …

    And the old men lilt how the blood was spilt
    On the banks of the river Boyne.
    Three hundred years of hate and fear
    Clutched like a miser’s coin;
    And at Ibrox and at Parkhead too,
    On the first day of the year,
    See full-grown men drag it all out again
    While the fans on the terraces cheer
    And at night the head …

    The irony in that redoubled when I found a video clip on a Continental site. I’m still wondering how that little lot translates into and out of the German consciousness.

  • ardmaj55

    Malcolm redfellow [12] Quoting Enoch Powell doesn’t amount to being an advocate of his. I didn’t know about the earlier example so thanks for updating me on that.