“The result of this woeful leadership is that we have let the DUP off the hook!”

Chekov has the text of an email circulated by a UUP member… It’s an amplification of Alex Kane’s missive from his resignation on Sunday…

  • Garza

    Jesus. Could the UUP, SDLP, DUP and SF all be having leadership elections this year?

    I have to agree Sir Reg is a woeful leader. It takes a rare kind of the person to completely and utterly make a balls up of the last month.

  • Cynic2

    At times like these you always find out who your friends are

  • Alias

    “At times like these you always find out who your friends are” – Cynic2

    And hopefully you still send her a ‘Mother’s Day’ card every year. 😉

  • ardmaj55

    cynic2 I think the UUP were in self destruct mode at the time they elected Reg Empty into that position. How do you manage to let the DUP’s crisis, opportunity fall through your fingers like he did. you can guarantee the reverse wouldn’t happen. in fact it’s already been proved.

  • Panic, these ones like it up em.

    A shambles from the UU. Peter Robinson is surely blessed that the leadership of the UU is woeful.

    How did the UU leadership arrive at this incompetancy.

  • Greenflag

    ‘How did the UU leadership arrive at this incompetency.’

    They’ve been practicing diligently for the past 40 years if not more .

  • Garza

    I got that same e-mail too. Curious has to how it was sent to me because I don’t know how any UUP member knew THAT e-mail address of mine.

  • Greenflag

    garza ,

    Some of the ‘conspirers ‘ may feel that the Cameroonian Conservatives are not as sure a bet as they might have seemed a while ago . The UUP have a record of jumping on to the ship that’s about to be sunk . Molyneaux and Major come to mind .

  • Cynic2

    I think a number of posts here are completely wrong. Let’s look at the big picture. Robinson has a simple choice.

    If he doesn’t do the deal he faces an immediate election and probable severe electoral damage. Irisgate and all the other allegations and attacks will run and run and run. Many disillusioned DUP voters may just not turn out. Others will look and think that the DUP and TUV now look very similar and defect. It will be carnage. They know this. Their polling tells them so.

    If he does do the deal then a DUP split looks very probable with up to 30% to 40% deserting to the TUV where they will find a warm welcome ina form of Protestant Purgatory where every day they are lambasted, roasted and reminded ‘I told you so’.

    The question for the rest is, what do they do?
    If they want a deal with Nationalism and the chance to move forward then there is an option. They can join the UUP/Conservative alliance, perhaps to even form a a new party. But any move on this this must be clearly focused on some basic principles and terms:

    * no sectarianism and a clear equality agenda
    * an inclusive and open party that welcomes everyone committed to unionist and modern conservative principles
    * a clear commitment to make the assembly work
    * totally committed to working in partnership with nationalists

    This will mean a complete realignment for some ex-DUP members. Do they have the wit do make the jump?

    Does Peter have the balls to grab this opportunity of a btetr future for all our people?

  • Garza

    Greenflag, maybe. But is a aligning itself with a quickly sinking DUP any better of a bet?

    When the Tories and UUP made this pact, they were only expecting 3 seats at best. The DUP beast seemed unbeatable, how the times have changed.

    Why offer an injured yet vicious lion your hand, when you have been mauled before?

    I remember the sneers, the jeers, the smurks in the general election 2005 of the skinheads of the “grassroots” of the DUP. I will look down on them and smile when I see them crushed by the electorate.

  • Cynic 2

    But any move on this this must be clearly focused on some basic principles and terms:

    * no sectarianism and a clear equality agenda
    * an inclusive and open party that welcomes everyone committed to unionist and modern conservative principles
    * a clear commitment to make the assembly work
    * totally committed to working in partnership with nationalists

    If that’s the choice, I think a fair few of them would rather burn in that Protestant Purgatory you mentioned. The danger however is that they come in on their own terms, importing their own exclusive brand of communal Unionism with them.

  • Greenflag

    ‘But is a aligning itself with a quickly sinking DUP any better of a bet?’

    If the Tories need 5 seats to win power at Westminster and the UUP can provide only 2 and the DUP 7 the Tories will sell their souls to the DUP rather than pass on power .

    Only natural -It’s the name of the game . As for principles ? Well they can always more of them wherever they come from .

  • Cynic2

    “I think a fair few of them would rather burn in that Protestant Purgatory you mentioned.”

    That’s their choice. But if they come across the ground rules are absolutely clear and there are some who could never pass them. Simples!

  • Cynic2

    “we have let the DUP off the hook”

    Absolutely. We should have let them hang out there, collapsed the institutions and walked into an election. Of course, we might have split politics right down sectarian lines even more deeply than now, might never have got the Assembly back up again and even if we did it would be irretrievably damaged on every level. Great call. Why, I am sure the community would have been delighted.

    Sometimes you have to put country before party. Sometimes the interests of the whole community transcends party or personal advantage.

  • seosamh

    The antics of Sir Reg reminds me of that quip from Groucho Marx;

    Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.

  • Greenflag

    seosamh ,

    Were’nt there three other Marx brothers ? Empey , Allister & Robinson iirc ;)?

  • joeCanuck

    GF,
    You’re confusing the Marx Bros. with the 3 stooges.