File under surreal – Irisgate hits Japan

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  • Kevsterino

    Hilarious, especially the ad for the cold tablets.

  • ranger1640

    We know how the Robinson’s like to cash in but I wondering will the Robinson’s be asking for royalties for all these clips of the pious pompous duo.

  • chewnic

    Of course they’ll cash in-like so many politicians they like the rent.

    [edited moderator]

  • OscarTheGrouch

    ….can the world get any sweeter…. Elvis McGonigall at the The Black Box this afternoon… and then home to this! Thank you Mark!

  • Salem

    this is brilliant !

  • Greenflag

    Omoshirokatta desu ne ? Mrs Robinsan San wa kirei desu ne? Kirk san wa taihen wakai desu soshite Lovu toy jozu deshta 😉

  • joeCanuck

    Showoff, GF.

  • I liked the comment, “takes the heat off Berlusconi”.

    Imagine him and Iris meeting up in Switzerland!

  • joeCanuck

    No money for this but wait until the Anime starts proliferating..

  • slug

    I liked their basic view of NI’s image – a nice clean place.

  • Greenflag

    The kick was the end the eh thought for the day .

    Old Nippon saying

    ‘See the adultery of others -mend your own wicked ways ‘

    The Japanese are no strangers to scandals although it’s nearly always about money and never about sex . Probably every japanese politician has a mistress on the side and his ‘home ‘ wife . Such is the country’s ‘value ‘ system that having a mistress is tolerated but divorcing the little home wife is hari kari for a top political or business career. Westerners talk about the glass ceiling for female professionals -for those japanese who aspire to the top in politics or business ‘divorce’ is a no no -a concrete ceiling .
    But abortion is okay and socially acceptable

    And they have the smallest prison population per head in the developed world and the the least number of police and violent crime is unheard of in most communities .

  • Pigeon Toes

    Greenflag.

    Look I’m going to have to get the kids out of bed to translate the Ulster Scots…

  • Driftwood

    greenflag
    if only our own parties were as tolerant…

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/peter-robinson-ended-my-career-but-irsquom-still-sorry-for-him-says-exdup-man-paul-berry-14638024.html

    I only hope no other NI politician is ever treated in such a way.
    Though that situation is unlikely ever to occur again.

  • joeCanuck

    Though that situation is unlikely ever to occur again.

    In other words you are saying that Iris wasn’t totally useless?

  • Greenflag

    pigeon toes .

    apologies I left out the Ulster Scots translation -here it -I must apolgise as my Ulster scots is not up to the standard of my japanese ;(

    ‘all velly interesting – Is’nt Mrs Robinson a very beautiful lady . Kirk is very young and as a love toy he’s very good at it ‘

    Joe canuck ,

    Gomenasai 🙁

  • Greenflag

    driftwood ,

    Magnaminious words from Mr Berry . Lets hope that any more closet gays in any of the NI parties have the courage to come out now before all is revealed by the gutter press . I mean if the Republic can elect an Emmet Stagg and Senator Norris why should it not be possible for NI to have some tolerance for these people who are after all people – disgusting wretches of course;) but still people who deserve to live their lives as they wish and contribute to the greater good of society . It was a ‘gay’ after all whose economic theory and subsequent postulated economic policies which contributed to the world economic recovery of the 1930’s .. While the British gay Johm Maynard Keynes helped resurrect the world economy – Hitler was sending gays to concentration camps and gas chambers .

    Being non religious I should’nt be quoting the great JC but he did give some very sound advice with his Sermon from the Mount . A lot of so called Christians don’t seem to have got the message . But then most don’t want to listen anyway 🙁

  • Driftwood

    Greenflag
    Obviously there are no other closet gays in the DUP. Can you imagine the furore if a Free Presbyterian minister MP was to be outed as such??

    That would show the party (and the church)to be a bunch of outrageous hypocrites and pathetic liars and freeloaders. (admittedly some sinners think that already, but hey, it’s hardly going to happen).
    Unless Carlsberg do January’s.

  • Dewi

    No more revelations then??? Been marched up the hill….

  • Pigeon Toes

    Driftwood,

  • Davros

    If something like that were to happen I would be shocked.

  • Pigeon Toes

    Aye there’s worse to come, and it harks back to the most “infamous” scandal.

  • Pigeon Toes
  • Driftwood

    Probably unlikely Davros

    can you imagine if it were true though? That would be as bad as another DUP MP being exposed as watching ‘adult’ movies at the taxpayer’s expense. Simply unbelievable. Wouldn’t it be a geg if both those outrageous stories turned out to have a semblance of truth though!

    never happen though, carlsberg don’t do etc.

    Sigh, back to boring normality, devolution of P&J, big deal. unless it was a deal by a party in turmoil.
    Which it isn’t.

  • Davros

    If either of those things were to happen I would be shocked. If they were to both happen I would be very shocked. About as likely as me winning £207k from a £1 lottery scratch card.

  • Pigeon Toes

    Driftwood what about a wee bet then? Nah….

  • Driftwood

    It’s embargoed, but Sunday Times and local papers, including the excrecable Sunday World and Sunday life have the lowdown. Gay bars etc.
    Whether they have the evidence is a different matter.
    The last lines from ‘Gone with the Wind’ and ‘Touch of Evil’ seem appropriate.

  • Pigeon Toes

    Ah shite ye are essentially forced to leave the country because you blew the whistle , and six months later some decent gossip….

    Meh

  • Slartibuckfast

    The Sunday Life are running another Iris story on their front page. The Times has no word on its site as of now.

  • joeCanuck

    “Here’s to you Mrs.Robinson” is so yesterday.
    We need a local songwriter to come up with something new.

  • Oh dear. I’m a Japanese living in Tokyo but failed to notice this TV show. I seldom watch TV nowadays anyway. Yep, even an ordinary Japanese housewife (someone like my mother) would say that “I know a bit about Northern Ireland. A beautiful female politician who had a very young lover!” Up until the end of 2009, she would have said “Sorry, no idea” or “Conflict, perhaps? Is it finished yet?”

    The TV show is one of the “wide-shows”, which deal with a wide variety of topics in a way that is similar to a tabloid paper. This particular show is aired from 8:00 am to 10:00 am on weekdays, so not many of us got to see this. The guy called Dave Specter who appears at 4:50 is an American TV producer turned Japanese TV personality. I basically dislike him because he’s always like “I know everything, I have a good sense of humour and I can speak Japanese, haha! Look, I’m the funniest guy on the earth!”. It’s a bit funny because here he looks less confident. Actually he knows nothing about NI: he can’t tell the DUP from the Democratic Party.

    The thought for the day at the end of the clip, “See the adultery of others – mend your own wicked ways,” is a pun in Japanese: that is “Hito no furi mite waga furi naose” -> “Hito no furin mite waga furin naose.” Original meaning: “See others’ behaviour and mend your own.” With an ‘n’ at the end of the word that means ‘behaviour’ (furi), the word’s meaning dramatically turns into ‘adultery’ (furin).

    @Greenflag on Jan 16, 2010 @ 10:47 PM:

    The Japanese are no strangers to scandals although it’s nearly always about money and never about sex . Probably every japanese politician has a mistress on the side and his ‘home ’ wife .

    Unfortunately, this is an outdated piece of information. It used to be not unusual for a Japanese middle-class male to have a mistress, probably until 40 or 50 years ago, but not any longer. And there have been many sex scandals that made a severe damage on someone’s career – politicians, TV personalities etc. The most high profile one has to be of Sosuke Uno, Prime Minister of Japan in 1989. Though he had survived one of the worst money scandal that hit the party, he had to resign only after two months because the election results were disastrous after a geisha revealed how Uno forced her to be his mistress.

  • Greenflag

    no frills,

    aregato .

    Well perhaps it’s a bit outdated but I’d maintain that in a one to one sleaze money plus/and/or sex/fraud competition with the previous US Congress the Japanese would still be way behind ;). Are they capable of catching up ? Indubitably.

    Your english is impressive for a Japanese who are normally seen as adept at foreign languages as English speakers if not worse ;). I trust you have some idea of the sense of humour people have in this part of the world -Northern Ireland included.

    Genki de 🙂

  • Greenflag

    pigeon toes

    Venus is not a beautiful place despite Miyuki Hatoyama’s assertions . The surface is hot enough to melt lead and the atmospheric pressure would flatten Stormont (the building I mean )

    She could however be Japan’s answer to Pat Robertson the American evangelist . Another serial but altogether more dangerous gaffer ;( On one level I’m aghast that some Japanese may have been hoodwinked into Scientology yet on another level it may a ‘brave’ nail trying to stick it’s head up from the great mass of conformers who make up Japanese society .

    The Japanese are a serious people about foreign religions -quite rightly imo . They had their religious civil war centuries ago between the Shintoists and Buddhists and after several hundred thousand dead , some bright spark decided this could all end if both sides agreed to ‘mix’ their faiths with funeral rites going to the Shintoists (a lucrative trade in an even then populous country ) with Buddhist monks getting the revenue stream of some of society’s other rites of passage -rituals etc . There’s something about the sheer lack of religious principles about that ‘fix’ that continues to leave me impressed 🙂

    The Japanese (ruling elite) were terrified that the “Christianisation’ of Japan would lead to the colonisation of the country .The Shogun had many Japanese Christians crucified back in the 17th century as a deterrent and the rest driven underground . They kept their trade with ‘foreign’ countries to a minumum and only allowed a few Portuguese and Dutch traders to use a small island as a foreign trade depot . In the spirit of pan Asian ‘accord’ they also restricted the Chinese and Koreans to very small islands from which they could not venture into Japan proper without certain death .

    Of course all the above unravelled with the new American trading empire and the gunship diplomacy of the mid 19th century .

  • Hi, Greenflag. Thanks for your kind words. 🙂

    in a one to one sleaze money plus/and/or sex/fraud competition with the previous US Congress the Japanese would still be way behind ;).

    You win. I’m sure we’re way behind, but when the fraud competition involves politicians _and_ builders (or developers), Japan may do better than Northern Ireland – the TV news has been reporting on a huge fraud scandal involving a senior politician and a developer. Again.

    Miyuki Hatoyama is a new age loving middle/upper-class eccentric. The way she fell in love with her husband and got married was a bit scandalous for a Japanese first couple, but she does no actual harm, I think, even when there’s a good looking young man around. 😉

    Most of the civil wars in Japan were not mainly because of religion, though some of them seem to be so. I can think of Ikko Uprising as an example, but it was not between Shinto and Buddhist. Rather, it was about the freedom of faith and territories – very political. Actually, since the 7th century when Japan’s authority introduced Buddhism, many religious sect were born in Japan, sometimes conflicting each other. Ikko-shu, aka Shin-Buddhists, Shinshu or Mon-to, which can be translated as “followers of true (shin) heart” or something (I’m not so sure of the words), is one of them. This “shin” is not same with the “shin” used in the word Shinto, which means “way (to) of God (shin)”. The two “shin”s are totally different words in Kanji (Chinese characters).

    Anyway, Shinto and Buddhism have long been deeply connected to each other. See Religion in Japan on Wikipedia. It’s well-written. Personally I’m not sure about how some “serious” Shinto people really feel (who tend to be too BNP-ish/nationalistic for me because of the history of emperor-worshipping State Shinto), but we generally don’t see the two religions conflicting, both in our daily lives and in historical sense. My family are very secular Buddhists – we don’t have any religious practice on the daily basis – and we go to Shinto shrine on the new years day to pray for well-being. When someone in my family dies, the funeral is done in a Buddhist way. Annual memorial ceremony is Buddhist, as well.

    *Forgive me if there’s any inaccuracy, as this is very difficult to explain without using any kanji. And sorry for the off-topic nature.

  • Slartibuckfast

    David Icke’s followers on Irisgate:

    [url=http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://eviljaymz.com/files/irisrobinson.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058543982&usg=__y_0Iejfi3FXTZ0J__TjbXo0_Di4=&h=251&w=400&sz=22&hl=en&start=9&sig2=3TLQ4IIIVjiBjSnww48-aA&um=1&tbnid=178eMqbgYakPxM:&tbnh=78&tbnw=124&prev;=/images?q=irisgate&hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&sa=N&um=1&ei=V9xTS9LWGNWojAfDuuCiCg]Easily the greatest page I have ever seen on the internet. Irisgate = world war with Iran. Class.[/url]

  • PaddyReilly

    Greenflag, did you see this one? (Our fame extends to Japan you know!)

    Slugger O’tooleでのコメント:
    大阪、2006年4月1日

    小野ちゃんは小学生、学校でレポートの課題を与えられた。課題は「私が北アイルランドを愛する理由」だ。彼女はお父さんに訊いてみた。お父さんはたんすを引っかき回した結果の物品を持ち寄るようなチャリティ・バザーでTシャツを買ったのだ。

    「北アイルランドを愛するとは!」とお父さんは叫んだ。「あんな血なまぐさいギャング連中とか、宗派別の暴力に明け暮れるアホとか、口先だけの政治家とか、食うだけ食ってろくなもんじゃないよ、まったく。愛せるわけがないじゃないか」。

    というわけで、小野ちゃんは今度はお母さんに同じ質問をしてみた。「北アイルランドを愛するのはなぜか、と言われてもねぇ」とお母さんは少し考え込んだ。

    バレンタインデーだってのに、おまいらにはチョコもカードも何もなし。にやり
    Posted by Greenflag on Feb 14, 2007 @ 04:29 PM

    続けてsusanさんは「Tシャツの胸のマークは『はぁと』なのだろうか。自分にはターゲット・マークに見える」と言い、次のJustinさんは「このTシャツ、絶対Falls Roadで買ったんだよな」と言い(Falls Rdはリパブリカン、特にIRAのハートランド)、次のPaddyReillyさんは「この人の外見から判断すると、北アイルランドじゃなくて『アルスター・フライ』が好きなんじゃないの」と言い、次のDonnachaさんはsusanさんに答えて「ターゲットじゃなくてオレンジだ。いずれにせよ、これら2つは入れ替え可能という人もいるだろうけど」と言う。(オレンジはユニオニスト側のこと。)

  • PaddyReilly

    Me and Green may not be able to attract toyboys or brown envelope money but we too have a following in Japan!

    NOFRILLS

    It is perfectly possible to use kanji on Slugger, as I have just demonstrated. Now go back and write it properly.

    GURỈNFURAGGO

    As your Japanese is of the easy-peasey Book One (Romanised) type, I should explain that this is an report from a Japanese who showed an interest in NI that we all commented about. I thought he was a bit overweight and suggested that he seemed primarily interested in “Ulster Fry”, which is the 『アルスター・フライ』referred to in the excerpt.