“So I suppose, yes, that gives some level of seniority.”

In an online, but unembeddable, BBC clip Sinn Féin TD for Louth, Arthur Morgan, has repeated his assertion that “It transpires that Liam Adams did, in fact, chair the Comhairle Centair for two meetings, after which he resigned.” He also told the Irish News that “What I completely overlooked was that he had been chair of the [district executive] for two months.” When asked by BBC NI Dublin corrrespondent Shane Harrison, “But he was obviously a prominent member of Sinn Féin. There are photographs of him with Gerry Adams. He’s there opening the Sinn Féin office with Martin McGuinness. He was at the Edentubber commemoration as well. He obviously was a senior figure in Sinn Féin?”

[Arthur Morgan] “Well, he did chair the party in Louth for two, for two meetings. So I suppose, yes, that gives some level of seniority. But he did resign after those two meeting.”

But Arthur, as I pointed out here, we have archived evidence that Liam Adams was Chairman of the Louth Comhairle Centair at the start of June 1996 when he was photographed opening the new Sinn Féin office in Dundalk with Martin McGuinness. He chaired the 40th anniversary commemoration at Edentubber in November 1997. That’s 18 months later. Between those dates Liam Adams is one of two names under consideration at a selection convention, advertised in October 1996, for the 1997 Dáil election. And he’s posing for Sinn Féin’s election publicity shots with Gerry Adams in June 1997 while canvassing in Dundalk. Update Spotted by Garza in the comments, “Sinn Fein clarify Liam Adams role”

Sinn Fein has revealed Liam Adams was chairing local party meetings in Belfast, more than three years after formally leaving the party over child sex abuse allegations. The party said Gerry Adams told them he was not aware his brother was involved with the party at this time. They added Liam Adams was doing party work despite not having reapplied to join Sinn Fein after leaving some time around 1997.

And the Sinn Féin statement

We have also established that Liam Adams was Chair of the Louth Comhairle Ceantair for two and a half months in 1996. He held the position of secretary for one month before this time. He was also nominated as Education Officer but he did not take up this position.

Gerry Adams has stated he became aware in 1997 that Liam Adams was a member of Sinn Féin when he heard that his name might be going forward as a potential election candidate. The party President moved to ensure that Liam Adams did not go forward as a candidate and that he later left the party. Gerry Adams did this without involving the party locally or nationally.

Except that we have the Louth selection convention, with candidates Owen Hanratty and Liam Adams, being advertised for October 1996.

And, as well as placing his time as Chairman in Louth in June 1996, we have Liam Adams chairing the 40th anniversary commemoration at Edentubber in November 1997.

They do admit, however,

The fact is that information from this period in the 1990s is not complete.

The SF statement continues

After this time Liam Adams continued to mix in republican circles and attend some republican events. From 2000 and for a number of years he involved himself in localised party work in Belfast. Liam Adams did not re-apply to join the party as would be required by party procedures. He held a number of positions in a cumann in Lower Andersonstown, including chair for a short period before the cumann dissolved. [added emphasis]

The local organisation was unaware of the allegation against Liam Adams and the circumstances of his departure from Sinn Féin in Louth. Clearly his admission to the party in Belfast should have been avoided. Gerry Adams has informed the party that he was not aware of Liam Adams involvement in party work at this time.

Adds But if Gerry Adams had Liam “dumped out of Sinn Féin”, as he has claimed, why was Liam Adams re-involving himself in the party in his brother’s own constituency?

And if, as a Sinn Féin spokesman previously claimed – as noted here

“[Liam Adams] had lived abroad and when he returned around 1993/94 he started mixing in republican circles in Dundalk. “When Gerry found out he had become a member, he expelled him and that was around 1999.” [added emphasis]

That would mean Liam moved seamlessly from being “expelled” by Gerry Adams from Sinn Féin in Louth, to Sinn Féin activity in west Belfast.

Update It’s worth noting that rather than having Liam “dumped out of Sinn Féin”, Gerry Adams now has a slightly different version of events

“I learned yesterday that my brother Liam Adams became a member of a cumann in Lower Andersonstown after I got him to leave Sinn Féin in County Louth.”

He’s still vague about the actual dates.

But, in 1998 Liam Adams started working in west Belfast at Clonard Youth Centre.

And Liam Adams was still working in west Belfast as a youth worker until 2006.

It would seem entirely natural that, by at least 2000, a former party chairman in Louth would have joined the local cumann.

If he had no reason to believe that would be a problem…

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  • Paddy

    The only way out for the Sinn Fein Pinnochios is to pray to our Blessed Mother that we all get amnesia.

    If Gerry’s brother was in town, would people not remember him/lick up to him precisely because he was the King’s brother.

    Fancy if the Pope’s brother was O/C of the local unit. Would the word not go around? Don’t mess with this guy as his brother is the boss of bosses?

    Really, Arthur, being Pinnochio takes much more effort.

  • Cynic2

    Keep digging Arthur!!!

    I always thought that the key for a SF politician was to lie convincingly?

    And the key question must be, why does he feel the need to tell such blatant and transparent porkies? Why the cover up? why not just disown him and say they didn’t know there was a problem?

    What’s the cover-up for?

  • Is BBC NI Spotlight investigating this and related issues?

  • joeCanuck

    Cynic2,

    I’ve mentioned on other posts that to be an effective liar, you need a good memory. They have lied spontaneously and are having a hard job remembering what lies they uttered. They are running scared.

  • Garza

    Nevin, spotlight has their hands full at the minute im sure.

  • Garza

    Sinn Fein clarify Liam Adams role amid sex abuse claims

    Sinn Fein has revealed Liam Adams was chairing local party meetings in Belfast, more than three years after leaving the party over child sex abuse allegations.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8461792.stm

  • KateMcC

    Adams criticism of Ian Paisley jnr. indicates a degree of nervousness. Morgan’s performance was weak with a hint of nervousness also. There are too many holes in Adams’ and Sinn Fein’s account, they have not yet be filled with explanations given by Morgan and party spokesmen.
    Even the ‘woman’s touch’ (Gildernew and Adams arriving at talks together) will not work in deflecting attention from this very serious issue.
    The party’s solidarity with Adams illustrates the moronic nature of the party.
    It also calls into question the morality of all its representatives.
    I suggest that constituents write to every Sinn Fein MLA, councillor, MP, MEP with questions regarding the conduct of their leader in relation to this matter and how the party intends to clarify that no wrongdoing took place.
    They could also ask their elected representatives if they agree that it is ok to stay silent in the knowledge that an alleged paedophile is working with children.

  • joeCanuck

    Kate,
    It seems to me that they are going to continue to stonewall. Last week and this week’s distractions must have seemed like a gift from God.

    Regarding Paisley’s complaint, I hope that isn’t the same man that has only “heard” of a man with whom he regularly fished and dined and bought a house from, although forgetting to register it, then blaming the Registry office; the same one who is charging the public an outrageous rent for a constituency office according to estate agents; the same one who put the safety of some of our police officers in jeopardy by claiming to have inside knowledge that thy were spying in Lybia and so on.

  • J Kelly

    why was my post removed, i was just adding to the discussion by putting up the sf statement.

  • Pete Baker

    J Kelly

    It’s already linked and quoted in the updated post.

    And it’s not good practice to put entire party press releases in the comments zone.

  • Pete Baker

    Adds

    But if Gerry Adams had Liam “dumped out” of Sinn Féin, as he has claimed, why was Liam Adams re-involving himself in the party in his brother’s own constituency?

  • Pete Baker

    And if, as a Sinn Féin spokesman previously claimed – as noted here

    “[Liam Adams] had lived abroad and when he returned around 1993/94 he started mixing in republican circles in Dundalk. “When Gerry found out he had become a member, he expelled him and that was around 1999.” [added emphasis]

    That would mean Liam moved seamlessly from being “expelled” by Gerry Adams from Sinn Féin in Louth in 1999, to Sinn Féin activity in Belfast in 2000.

  • Kathy C

    posted by Kathleen Collins

    Sinn Fein’s comment at the end of the statement is classic sinn fein.

    “Political opponents have chosen to cynically exploit this tragic situation for wholly political ends. This is disgraceful. They will not succeed.”

    Gee…to me Liam’s actions are disgraceful…gerry’s actions in giving the seal of approval with his now famous campaign walk about with child rapist brother is disgraceful–arthur morgan going missing for 20 plus days rather than answer some questions about liams real involvement with sinn fien is disgraceful—and how sinn fein has handled this scandal is disgraceful. But…sinn fien wants to label everyone who has disgust and tried to figure out the truth…as disgraceful….

  • Paul

    what a farce Morgan is all over the place the whole thing stinks.

  • Seamus

    what a farce Morgan is all over the place the whole thing stinks.

    Posted by Paul on Jan 15, 2010 @ 05:36 PM

    A real comedy script Paul

  • Pete Baker

    Update It’s worth noting that rather than having Liam “dumped out of Sinn Féin”, Gerry Adams now has a slightly different version of events

    “I learned yesterday that my brother Liam Adams became a member of a cumann in Lower Andersonstown after I got him to leave Sinn Féin in County Louth.”

    He’s still vague about the actual dates.

    But, in 1998 Liam Adams started working in west Belfast at Clonard Youth Centre.

    And Liam Adams was still working in west Belfast as a youth worker until 2006.

    It would seem entirely natural that, by at least 2000, a former party chairman in Louth would have joined the local cumann.

  • heamaisbharney

    What’s the betting that the ‘Timeline’ changes again in tomorrow’s papers? was Liam a member in Sligo or Donegal? Any more forgotten roles or positions for Liam? Nothing would surprise me although I’d have thought that by now the members would have informed Gerry of where Liam had been (if Gerry didn’t know) or are they letting the facts come out slowly against Gerry? O.K I stole this from something similar on p.ie but it does seem reasonable.

  • murph80

    Gerry Adams claims he would sit on the Garvaghy road to stop Orangemen.

    Charity begins at home.

    Adams should sit on his brother’s doorstep until he hands himself in to answer the charges of paedophilia.

  • Kathy C

    posted by Kathleen Collins

    murph80, OMG what a fabulous post.