Robinson accuses Kelly of snooping…

From Eamonn Mallie:

Another rift has opened up between the DUP and Sinn Fein. Earlier today Gerry Kelly said a twenty million pounds ‘side deal’ had been agreed by Gordon Brown for former part time police officers. Peter Robinson said this afternoon a letter from Mr Brown to him should not have been available to Mr Kelly. He added:

“For clarity it should be known that the Prime Minister’s office sent my letter to OFMDFM not knowing that Sinn Fein would be snooping on my correspondence.”

  • Padraig

    I don’t know, it all sounds very petty and bitchy.

    If we got on like this at work we’d get our asses kicked….and they run the place. Sigh

  • aquifer

    It’s a joint office. Martin’s not snooping, he’s doing his job as well.

  • Pigeon Toes

    Padraig
    Someone should inform civil servants in other departments that letters addressed to named individuals in the workplace have the right to the privacy of that correspondence.

  • New Blue

    And these are the people we elect to run the country for us?

    Time for change

  • Garza

    I’m lost for words how anyone could vote for these two parties.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Mick, do you know what the layout of Stormo is? Are Marty’s and Robbo’s offices side by side?
    Perhaps they have a shared pigeon hole for their mail?

    We cant be far away now from what we saw in the Turkish parliament http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/may/29/turkey.international

    You would have to fancy SF to start as favourites.

  • Expenses111

    Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Brilliant idea. Who on the hill is popular? Would MLA vote for people in the fees office???

  • Wrinklie Jane

    What a lot of balls. The DUP and Sinn Fein appear to be having the political equivalent of a sexual relationship. This is little more than a tiff

  • Pigeon Toes

    Perhaps Peter wasn’t aware that Marty had been copied into the letter.

    (Which might have further hilarious consequences)

  • BonarLaw

    Wrinklie Jane

    forgive me, couldn’t resist…

    “The DUP and Sinn Fein appear to be having the political equivalent of a sexual relationship”

    With the Shinners getting f@+*ed at every turn…

  • Wrinklie Jane

    No BonarLaw your analogy is quite incorrect, the only people getting f@+*ed are the people of Ulster.

  • Expenses111

    The only losers are the people of Ulster. Sinn Fein and DUP are as bad as each other.

  • BonarLaw

    Wrinklie Jane

    points taken, although the system which the people endorsed in 1998 is a big part of the problem.

    I’m of to the pub to drink the mental image of Ms Ruane you have given me into oblivion…

  • andrew white

    No BonarLaw your analogy is quite incorrect, the only people getting f@+*ed are the people of Ulster.
    Posted by Wrinklie Jane on Oct 30, 2009 @ 07:15 PM

    how so? lets remember the current problems are a result of the UUP letting mcguinness sign the order to abolish the 11 plus. this was done while the UUP and SDLP were running the show

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Wrinklie Jane,

    You may be on to something there with the mad-bad-Paddies unable to control their repressed sexuality and this leading to outbursts of aggressive behaviour – still the Englezes feel so guilty about their role in Ireland that we can probably keep squeezing money out of them to keep Stormo going for years.

    Robbo is surely developing in to the maddest Paddy of the lot – one minute he’s trying to cause sirpatrickmayhem in Ireland over parades and the next he’s over in London squeezing more money out of El Gordo and his government.

    Secretary: Prime Mininster, that little nasty Irish fellah is back and he’s looking for more money.

    El Gordo: What the fuck? I gave the little fecker 800 million last week.

    Secretary: He says if you dont give him more money he’ll send the wife over.

    El Gordo: Jaysus H Christ – write the fecker a cheque but dont let the other little Curly red-haired fellah find out he’s scares the holy bejaysus out of me everytime he puts his hand in his coat pocket.

  • Rory Carr

    Are we to infer from Robinson’s reaction that, had not Kelly made this offer public, it was his intention that it should remain secret? Surely any and all agreements between the British PM and the NI government must be shared and agreed by both First Ministers. Clearly that is the understanding of Downing Street as is evidenced by the address of the letter making the offer : The Office of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister (my emphasis). Has Robinson entirely lost sight of the fundamental principles of the power sharing agreement to which his party is committed?

  • cut_the_bull

    couldnt resist this

    Gordon gave a letter to the postman,
    he put it his sack.
    bright and early next morning,
    Gerry opened the letter for the craic.

    He wrote upon it:
    Return to sender, this deal to us is unknown.
    No such gratuity payment, Marty get on the phone.
    This’ll start a quarrel, Gordons a prat
    No sly pay offs or patting peters back.

    So then Gerry dropped it in the mailbox
    And sent it special D.
    bright and early tommorrow morning
    there will be uproar in the Assembly.

  • paddy

    sammy mc nally wen mc guinness puts his hand in his pocket the only thing he pulls out is a list of names for his handlers n pay masters the british goverment y keep arguing sammy the wee ginger curley man sold u out end of

  • LabourNIman

    the shinners spies probably knew what was in the letter even before robbo got it…

  • Sean

    the shinners spies probably knew about the content before gordo wrote it……….. they are just that good

  • Reader

    Rory Carr: Surely any and all agreements between the British PM and the NI government must be shared and agreed by both First Ministers.
    Absolutely; however, this appears to have been an agreement between Broon and the DUP instead. It is conceivable that SF might try to veto the receipt of buckets of wonga. But hardly likely.

  • paddy

    another body reported murdered n hidden ffs robbo wat r u thinking about adams wont even give these people a decent burial this is murder were talking about n ure talking about trust y was peter wilson not mentioned at the start of the missing ian brady is still in jail for hiding bodies would u make him justice minister

  • couldn’t comment shouldn’t

    anothre daft example of the British Government trying to buy of NI politicians with trinkets – if the RUC reserve deserved £20million they deserved it years ago not so that Robbo could get policing and justice through.

    Sadly for Robbo he thinks the population are as shallow as him and Gordon Brown but we ain’t we won’t be bribed.

  • igor

    “Surely any and all agreements between the British PM and the NI government must be shared and agreed by both First Ministers.”

    Keep trying Rory but there aren’t 2 First Ministers. read the act and agreement. There’s a first and a deputy.

    And they do all get side deals, SF included, while HMG pulls the strings

    Still it beats them killing each other

  • 6countyprod

    Robbo’s always one step ahead of the Shinners. Big change from the Trimble nightmare.

  • John East Belfast

    paddy

    “another body reported murdered n hidden ffs robbo wat r u thinking about adams wont even give these people a decent burial this is murder were talking about n ure talking about trust y was peter wilson not mentioned at the start of the missing ian brady is still in jail for hiding bodies would u make him justice minister”

    Good point that remind us of the reality but dont tell it to us unionists – tell it to the 140k plus of Irish nationalists who vote for them.

    The thought of an 23 year old verging on special needs case with his hand tied behind his back and a hood over his head and being asked to kneel before his own grave while some “brave volunteer” fires a bullet into his head fills me with horror as well. What kind of awful creatures do we have running this country ?

  • Wrinklie Jane

    Robbo’s always one step ahead of the Shinners. Big change from the Trimble nightmare. < \i>

    LOL

    So far ahead in fact that they’re about to lose First Minister to them.

    Well done!!!

  • Mark McGregor

    This is just stupid.

    Any correspondence to OFMDFM, regardless of which party it is addressed to gets copied to both parties. It is a co-equal office. The shiners didn’t do anything wrong, the civil servants didn’t do anything wrong. Either the NIO or DUP fucked up by not being clear enough this deal was to be hidden.

    At least we see the continuing underhand nature of Stormont politics again.

  • cut_the_bull

    6 county prod
    Robbo’s always one step ahead of the Shinners. Big change from the Trimble nightmare.

    Yeah It will be interesting to see what happens if Peter fails to deliver marches down the Garvaghy and the Ormeau roads.
    He’ll be following in Davey Trimbles footsteps’
    Jim Allister must be jumping with joy.

  • shorty

    cut_the_bull said “Yeah It will be interesting to see what happens if Peter fails to deliver marches down the Garvaghy and the Ormeau roads.”

    If Peter OR Gerry fail to deliver!

    After all, didn’t SF openly criticise both the Ormeau and Garvaghy groups for daring to criticise SF’s response to Ashdown’s Report.

    If you subscribe to the Irish News, You can read the LOCC/Garvaghy full page article here – http://www.irishnews.com/searchlog.asp?reason=denied_empty&script;_name=/pageacc.asp&path;_info=/pageacc.asp&tser1=ser&sid=586387

    But it appears at present that SF now supports the position of LOCC and GRRC – a position that SF tried to undermine last year.

    But then a week is along time in politics.

  • cut_the_bull

    Shorty

    Its simple Sinn Fein cant deliver on parades.Any solution lies between the residents who are living in the communities where unwanted and unwelcome parades are forced through and those who wish to march.
    The problem for Sinn Fein arises if and when any marches are forced through and if there is any trouble will the party stand behind the PSNI and the courts if the PSNItake a decision to batter residents to facilitate a parade and the courts go on to prosecute residents in relation to any trouble.
    But theres still the issue of what will the Dup/Orange Order demand next as a precondition and Ibelieve a blind man can see it coming. The need to march down the Garvaghy and Ormeau Rds.
    If Peter fails to deliver on this he could be following in the footsteps of Trimble.

  • fin

    Hopefully no journo will pick up on the insensitive timing of announcing 20,000,000 quid for ex-coppers. Squaddies with limbs missing are dependent on the kindness of strangers donating money to the poppy appeal at this time of year for assistance.

    Of course any journo who did pick up on it could follow through with comparing the estimated 100,000,000 quid the cops in NI are expecting for hearing loss to what some poor sod gets for losing his legs in Afganistan.

    They might ask just how British are these people who seem to extract a high price for been part of the UK.

  • Rory Carr

    Hopefully no journo will pick up on the insensitive timing of announcing 20,000,000 quid for ex-coppers.

    What they might pick up on however, Fin, is the striking similarity between the £20m being backhanded to Robinson to placate his part-time coppers and a sum teasingly not unadjacent to that amount which was to be slashed from the budget of Gordon’s part-time soldiers, the Territorial Army, but which now, following a furore, is to be reinstated.

    Will this mean I wonder that Peter has to slip Gordon the £20m back under the table so that the budget can be squared or will they simply ask MP’s like the Robinsons to pay back a bit more of the overclaimed parliamentary expenses to meet the shortfall?

  • “We cant be far away now from what we saw in the Turkish parliament.”

    Sammy,

    It is a bit rich for anyone from the north of Ireland to look down their noses at the Turks, when you acquiesce to an administration which has set the democratic benchmark at such a low level it would be unacceptable to most countries within Europe.

  • fin

    Rory, snap, thats what triggered my thinking, however I believe Brown has backtracked on that. Although he hasn’t backetracked on the similar amount thats been cut from the current PSNI budget, the DUP are heavily involved in Policing (sending cops to Libya etc) yet although unable to get 20million for the current cops BUT can get it for ex-cops!

    However the ‘child allowance’ mode of thinking within unionism continues, whereas both communities benefit from money going towards policing today, 20million going to ex-cops is virtually all going into unionist pockets.

    Although I guess the DUP are still trying to recover ground from the beatings (and murder) handed out to the cops over Druncree and Whiterock.

    Maybe Mick could do a piece for the Guardian on it. Speaking of Mick UCUNF are been quiet on this

  • Reader

    Mark McGregor: Any correspondence to OFMDFM, regardless of which party it is addressed to gets copied to both parties.
    It depends on whether OFMDFM was the addressee or just part of the address.
    If stuff is addressed to ‘The Occupier’ at my house, I will open it. If it is addressed to my wife, I won’t.

  • shorty

    But theres still the issue of what will the Dup/Orange Order demand next as a precondition and Ibelieve a blind man can see it coming. The need to march down the Garvaghy and Ormeau Rds.
    If Peter fails to deliver on this he could be following in the footsteps of Trimble.
    Posted by cut_the_bull on Oct 31, 2009 @ 08:28 AM

    That’s why I believe SF have been forced to retreat back to the position adopted by Ormeau and Garvaghy last year. After all, Garvaghy is no longer in their pocket and from what I understand, they’ve lost the confidence of most of the Ormeau – one of the reasons that Maskey lost his main man in that district last year.

  • Prionsa Eoghann

    fin on Oct 31, @ 11:01 AM

    Got to be most obvious and bestest comment of the week. I had been thinking on similar lines biut not added the sodjers intae the equation.

    Absolute dynamite, the price the taxpayer have to pay for the remnants of the sectarian state, and their own sense of self importance. Scandal!