“waiting and worrying to see whether there will be a process around to deliver”

Set up in 2005 to investigate unresolved murders “attributed to the security situation” between 1969 and 1998, the Historical Enquiries Team’s remit, and its allocated £34million budget, runs out in 2011 – according to Hansard, estimated expenditure to 31 March 2007 was £9.9 million. But as HET Director Dave Cox told UTV only 580 cases have been completed to date, and nearly 2000 remain to be investigated. Of course by 2011, policing and justice powers may, or may not, be devolved. But if they are devolved by then, and that may depend on whether there’s agreement on how to police the present, it will be for the NI Executive to decide whether the HET’s work continues to be funded. And it wasn’t on the OFMDFM list.

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  • Mark McGregor


    I’m confused. The NIO had responsibility for the HET budget and committed to it until 2011 as part of the overall funding they gave to policing but not a joined up policing/justice budget (they didn’t have to do such things). After 2011 it is up to them to pitch for further monies, just like any other element of british ‘justice’ in the north.

    Are you suggesting they should be guaranteed future funding post 2011 at some undefined rate while the rest of policing/justice will be making cases based on operational requirements and the situation at that time?

    Why do you think this branch of the PSNI/RUC should be promised future funding when no other element gets to put together a futuring pitch?

  • Mark McGregor

    Of more interest would be someone doing investigation into the background of many of the HET and Ombudsman’s senior investigators. Washed up drunks, ex-branch etc. that fly in on huge allowances for a few days a week, more interested in boozing and screwing behind the wife’s back than actually working. Investigating that may reveal why so little gets done for so much expenditure by these ‘investigators’. And I only had to talk to a few token taigs taken on/in at the bottom rung to find out how rife this nonsense is.

    Unbelievable the people they are firing cash at and expecting ‘results’ from in many cases.

    And I’ll stop before the libel…..

  • Pete Baker


    I’m not clear on why you’re confused.

    Policing and justice powers have not been devolved yet. Until they are it is the responsibility of the NIO to pitch for and administer funds allocated by central UK government to meet the local requirements.

    The HET Director is strongly suggesting that they will not complete their investigations by the end of their current remit – 2011.

    At which point, if those powers have been devolved, the decision on continuing and funding HET investigations will be the responsibility of the NI Executive – as a devolved region of the UK.

    I know that rankles but what can you do?

    Otherwise those investigations will stop.

    As for your other questions.

    I’m not suggesting anything, just pointing out what’s happening.

  • Pete Baker

    “Of more interest…”

    Well, you go and blog that then Mark.

    Be sure to cite your sources.

  • Mark McGregor


    Not really my interest but thanks for the advice. I go with the let not get Mick sued approach Hansard/MSM over banality.

  • Mark McGregor


    Sorry should have been:

    ‘I go with the lets not get Mick sued approach (barely) over Hansard/MSM banality.’

    They’ll have theirs, and you’ll have yours, and I’ll have mine.
    And together we’ll be fine….

  • pete whitcroft

    Aren’t they just shredding the stuff about their old mates and making sure they have 2 contenental holidays a year?

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit


    disgruntled people at the bottom dissing those above them – sounds like standard fare.

    The HET seem to have done a good job on the motorman case which does not look very good for the army – a few soldiers and their commanding officer, if they are still around should be going down for that.