Slugger’s Daily Blogburst: The unpleasant anti Brown anti depressant cock and bull tale…

Okay, kicking off today with that question of whether a respectable journalist like Andrew Marr has the right to ask the PM about a question that’s been been a Conservative blogosphere Talking Point for a couple of years now… Now it emerges the guy who kicked off the rumour has no idea whether it was true or not…- In a bravura I am Sparticus performance, Dizzy Thinks it might have been him who started the whole bandwagon rolling, and protests it was all a joke and believing that new Labour doesn’t do humour (which of course they wouldn’t given the spurious, made-up nature of the scam)…

– Meanwhile, Guido, who was riffing humorously on a “does he or doesn’t he?” linefor quite a while a few years back, is now distracting nicely by framing the whole thing with a strictly binary comparison with Cameron’s refusal to answer the ‘did you use drugs in your yooff’ question

– As Charlie Beckett notes the problem with the question is its very disingenuity: when did you stop beating your wife Gordon?

– I left my own inarticulate take on the situation over at Shane’s blog:

AS the Swift Boat veterans of 04 begat the TPM Muckracker of 08… what goes around now will almost certainly come round again… My guess is that someone somewhere is having another, much closer look at that nasty little email from Mr McBride and planning to create some smoke of their own… And I very much doubt it will stop there… This is just the wrong way to go chaps…

– Dave Cole reminds us there are more serious questions being skated over for the sake of the game of court politics:

– (via Mark Coughlan) Meanwhile, after hedging his bets for the longest time (until the Guardian stuck a PR bomb under his place-man Mr Coulson), Mr Murdoch’s biddable Pravda machine is touring Brighton with anti government slogans…

– Paul notes the cost to the taxpayers of Mr Murdoch’s last little Faustian with the last Labour administration… (Millions mate, millions…)

– And from Matthew Taylor a cold shower for ‘net optimists’ from Evgeny Morozov, a US based expert on how political regimes use technology:

Contradicting the lazy cyber utopianism of many politicians and commentators, he showed how authoritarian regimes like China, Russia and Iran are using the internet as a tool of reaction and repression. From Russia’s experiments with e-consultation, to the Iranian and Chinese regimes using crowd sourcing to identify dissidents, to the use by various regimes (including Israel) of private companies to manipulate online polls and Google searches, bad people in high places are proving as good at using the internet as good people blogging for freedom from their basements.

Labour list with lazy arse journalism

(Via Longman Oz) Peter Preston comes up with an alternative “external perspective” take on Ireland’s Lisbon Treaty debate. Warning: some dewy-eyedness ahead.

And finally, a nice post over at the Open Unionism blog (the new great beast of the NI blogosphere) in which Chekov argues that the extremely complex (neigh dangerous) selection procedure inside UCU-NF has to negotiate those notorious pitfalls and get a balance between the hyperlocal demands of the pure STV system and a strong team across the body corporate, not least since they are now the party that takes the Westminster mandate as seriously as Mark Durkan does…

  • I don’t know if there is any truth in the rumour or not Mick, but if Gordon Brown is not depressed there is something seriously wrong with him.

  • Mick Fealty

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  • Mick, I expect you recall much nastier innuendo on the Dully Tele blogs, some of which originated on the Daily Mail.

    The campaign of abuse and libels, principally against Brown, which has been so widespread among many tory and other right wing trolls for the most part has been utterly disgraceful, beyond belief.

    http://quietzapples.blogspot.com/2009/05/campaign-of-tory-abuse-and-libels-1.html

    Even the successful libel actions by the PM’s brother Andrew and others have been scantily reported, in the billionaires’ interests to keep schtumn when their followers get caught . . .

    Chameleon is reported to have responded to accusations re Pot at Eton, booze at the Bullingdon and Cocaine in the City as being part of his past, though nothing I recall amounts to an admission of guilt or attempt at expiation.

    Osborne denies the tart and coke accusation, I remain mystified as to why he didn’t sue the N o W who first published the tart’s side of the “story” – he can well afford to. His wife rightly sued the Sunday Times when they repeated the accusations re her nervous state which McBride in his private email suggested should be used against her husband.

    McBride’s nastinesses were private, they were not made public until those who believed they were acting in the interests of the Conservatives publicised them. Scant concern for the victims.

    After the nasty rants against MPs and their expenses, and the campaigns of vilification principally of Labour MPs, it is clear that these have been principally in the interests of the rich imho, and, as all good conservatives, who have read their Adam Smith must know, we should follow the money.

    The DT and the Mail are the biggest offenders, and Guido Fawkes is a centre for the nastiest scunners.

  • Let’s not leave out the Trot fibs-factory. They (as I recall) kick-started the “Bliar” meme, which was then taken up by the LibDims.

    The 2004 General Election in several London constituencies saw some very strange crossovers. LibDem, SWP and Respect affiliation seemed pretty elastic. Badges, rosettes and opinions indiscriminately interlocked on the doorstep — though the rhetoric always came back to “Stop the War”. That, in itself, may not be beyond acceptable limits: what went off the scale (at least mine) amounted to the exploitation and method of targetting particular ethnic communities in a concerted one-issue campaign.

    That grief apart, may I chuck in a particular gripe about Iain Dale? He seems prepared to recycle any canard; but then practises a form of partisan coitus interruptus. Here’s an example from just yesterday:

    1. He put up a tweet:

    # RT @tobyhelm Just met friend frm Ireland who sd Irish referend is getting really close. We were told Yes camp on course 2 days ago. Not now.

    That was so far out of line with all the other evidence, I put it up on my wordpress site.

    2. Dale rose to the bait (he never fails):

    Who’s the dumbo here? Me or the idiot who doesn’t understand what RT means. The tweet was from Toby Helm of The Observer. I just retweeted it.

    I’m quite prepared to be Dumbo. What sticks in the craw (it’s those accompanying crows, if you recall the movie) is the sheer slipperiness: pass off a view as part of the “editorial”, then withdraw from it. [See Genesis 38:9.]

  • From what I read of Mick’s tweets re the Irish Referendum he was telling us that UKIP had blagged Slugger via some source with a bent poll a week or so ago . . .

    SOOOOO much of the lies and similar is about trying to create or maintain a bandwagon effect.

    The public will cotton on, in time.

    Unsure who started the “Blair” nonsense, but people like to believe that politicians are worthless. This suits the extreme right, who don’t want politics, they want low taxes and management.

  • Agreed, Quietzapple @ 09:36 PM. The UKIPpers, the “Taxpayers Alliance”, the other funny, fuzzy, interlocking Rightist fellow-travellers are all getting too slick at exploiting the credulity of the simple. A fancy letter-head, a posh address, a plausible narrative and a Savile Row suit sell anything. I suddenly recall the mordant WW2 comment:

    Just be grateful that our side has Mickey Mouse.

    I’ve just put up a comment about political manipulation [see Malcolm Redfellow @ 09:49 PM] on the Lisbon parallel thread.

  • Only Asking

    I think the issue of the prescription pills/depression has run its course, since the hype after the marr show.