Yes camp maintains substantial lead over Noes…

Looks solid for the Yeses this time, although Stephen Collins’ view is that the Noes are making ground (4% rise is just above the margin of error)… But compared to last year, the Yes camp must be quietly pleased:

The final Irish Times poll at a similar stage in the first Lisbon Treaty referendum campaign put the No side in the lead with 35 per cent of the vote compared with 30 per cent who said they were voting Yes. At that stage 35 per cent of voters were still undecided.

That substantially different from Gael Poll’s ‘folk-polling’ efforts last week. The demographic breakdown is this:

As in almost all previous polls on the Lisbon Treaty, men are more likely to vote Yes than women – 51 per cent of male voters say they will vote Yes compared to 34 per cent No and 15 per cent Don’t Know. Among women, support for the Yes side drops to 45 per cent, with 33 per cent No and 22 per cent Don’t Know.

In class terms, there is strong support for Lisbon among the better-off AB voters, with 62 per cent in favour and only 18 per cent against, with 20 per cent Don’t Know. The picture is very different at the other end of the social scale, with 48 per cent of the poorest DE category against the treaty, 33 per cent in favour and 19 per cent Don’t Know.

Here’s the bit that will chill the no camp. The farmers, traditionally the most knowledgeable about EU affairs, appear to be solidly in favour of the Treaty: 68 per cent Yes, 24 per cent No and 8 per cent Don’t Know.

At the end of a traumatic year, the Irish alone in Europe will be more familiar with the issues surrounding the Treaty. But whichever way it goes at the polls, the basic lesson that should be learnt by national and international elites is that you cannot get ahead of your people. And most especially, that if you take the mick by springing a Referendum on them at 4 weeks notice, you WILL get bitten. And badly!

Mick is founding editor of Slugger. He has written papers on the impacts of the Internet on politics and the wider media and is a regular guest and speaking events across Ireland, the UK and Europe. Twitter: @MickFealty

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Looking at Cowan’s mush, H.G.Well’s novel “The Island of Doctor Moreau” always come to mind.


  • Should be a Red C poll out tonight.

  • Dave

    ” The farmers, traditionally the most knowledgeable about EU affairs, appear to be solidly in favour of the Treaty: 68 per cent Yes, 24 per cent No and 8 per cent Don’t Know. ”

    The group that most support the EU are the group who have received 90% of all EU subsidies given to Ireland. Yet it is the consumers who pay the higher food prices that are required to raise these subsidies. That is a clear demonstration of how a people are bribed to support the EU, with the EU effectively taking money from Irish consumers to give to Irish farmers – bribing the Irish people with their own money.

    Sadly, the farmers are now dependent on these subsidies, and they remain as a backward industry that never modernised due to the nature of these subsidies. There is a global food shortage, yet try driving through Ireland and spotting a field with anything growing in it. They are ignoring the modern world due to deranged EU CAP policies.

    On the other hand, a group who see a food product worth 6 billion euro a year being given away for free to the EU are the most committed no-voters. That 6 billion euro a year that is lost to the Irish economy is the unprocessed value with the processed value being substantially higher – not to mention that the decimation of the Irish fishing industry under EU rule means that tens of thousands of jobs will never be created (much like our empty fields produce a fraction of the food exports that they should be producing).

  • europass

    Which is it then Dave? The under exploitation of our fields or the over-exploitation of our seas. You expect open access for our arable produce to world markets whilst maintaining total protection over fishing from extraction to canning?

    Can we have a joined up explanation of just what the perfect Dave food, agriculture and fisheries policy would be?