Big European debate: O’Leary versus Ganley…

Great line up from Matt Cooper on Today FM at the IrishTimes building

  • Mick Fealty

    True to form, O’Leary is late…

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    Turns up giving 100 free books…

  • Mick Fealty

    Harkin gives five reasons to vote Yes (by far the sharpest of the speakers so far:

    2/3 of all legislation is under the control of the national parliaments, after Lisbon it will be 95%…

  • Mick Fealty

    Ganley: Back to the drawing board and get a better deal..

    Whoops, here comes O’Leary: “They (the Irish government) are crap and bankcrupt…”

    Don’t listen to this lobby of losers… The “Beside me is Dana (Joe – ie an MEP)… Next to him is some who used be Dana Patricia (ie used to be MEP), and one who wanted to be Dana (ie Declan who never quite made it)… “

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    Martin: we have never surrendered sovereignty to Europe, we have agreed to share sovereignty… Hammers on about exports to Europe…

  • Mick Fealty

    Harkin is making point to McKenna that money being given to the poles to take dell is what Ireland had would she deny that same subsidy to Polish workers…?

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    Higgins attacks commission for taking free corporate flights around Ireland with Ryanair…

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    Ganley having a great populist ding dong (O’Leary’s ‘evil empire’ quote in the middle of it…)

  • Mick Fealty

    Ganley having a great populist ding dong (O’Leary’s ‘evil empire’ quote in the middle of it…)

  • RepublicanStones

    Patricia McKenna claiming the treaty is actually out of date.

  • Mick Fealty

    Missed that RS… very interesting debate about consequences of saying No… will double back on that later…

  • Mick Fealty

    Detect some dishonesty on that from both sides… but good line from Martin on the importance of sentiment in negotiations in Council…

  • Mick Fealty

    Ganley quoting O’Leary from earlier:

    “The EU Commission is Stalinist. The EU is an evil empire that is psychologically and morally bankrupt. The Brussels fonctionnaires are incompetent peasant politicians, morons and gobs**tes.”

  • RepublicanStones

    Good handbags over the charter.

  • RepublicanStones

    “Vote for Lisbon its bad for your health” poster.

  • RepublicanStones

    Good riposte by McKenna to O’learys claim that unemployed are the only needy people in the country.

  • Mick Fealty

    Martin people elect politicians…

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    Great to hear two women step up to the mark and best the men in many respects…

  • RepublicanStones

    Ganley sticking the boot into Sarko.

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    It seems you are always correct if you ‘create jobs’.

  • RepublicanStones

    Great question regarding the undemocratic nature of making ireland vote again.

  • RepublicanStones

    Claim being made that all the worries of the irish people have been addressed so its ok to put it forward again.

  • RepublicanStones

    Ganley makes good point that if any changes had been made to the treaty ALL the countries would have had to ratify it again. So its the same ‘corpse’.

  • RepublicanStones

    O’Learys Zimbabwe quote thrown back at him.

  • Mick Fealty

    Naoise Nunn gets a mention from O’Leary trying to say even Libertas can’t agree on what it thinks (Naoise’s been out of Libertas for months – dodgy claims don’t enhance anyone’s case)…

  • RepublicanStones

    Ganley ‘Obsessed with Britain’ agent for UKIP.

  • Mick Fealty

    Martin plays his ace card (ie that the guarantees and the change on Commissioners were a direct answer to his campaign of last year – and they are not using it this year. Why? If as Ganley claims, nothing has change.

    Cheers when Martin accuses Ganley of being obsessed with pushing Britain’s (and UKIP’s) agenda…

  • RepublicanStones

    Patricia McKenna claiming the ‘commissoner issue’ can be re-visited.

  • RepublicanStones

    O’Leary has to go early, he also thinks the vote is a week early.

  • Mick Fealty

    Higgins: “Disgusting racist bigoted views of UKIP…” << Joe's been swallowing the Irish govt pill on that.. In my experience, UKIP are a lot of things, but they are neither racist nor bigoted...

  • RepublicanStones

    Hasty debate being organised between O’Leary and Ganley later tonight.

  • Mick Fealty

    Declan:

    Pre crisis treaty for a post crisis world… quotes Munchau (who completely disagrees with him)

  • RepublicanStones

    “UKIP influence in this debate does deserve to be discussed”

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    Cooper:

    “One singer, one song…” << good handling Matt!! The whole way through...

  • Mick Fealty

    Applause for Ganley as he leaves…

  • Mick Fealty

    Joe says the armaments industry is Pro Lisbon… where did Ganley get his money from..?

  • RepublicanStones

    Patricia McKenna’s favourite bogey man – the military industry

  • Mick Fealty

    Harkin, did you know that it is the EU that has given Irish women equal rights..

  • RepublicanStones

    EU is “Greatest force for peace in the history of Europe”

  • Mick Fealty

    that was funy: thanks RS!

  • Dave

    “Harkin gives five reasons to vote Yes (by far the sharpest of the speakers so far:

    2/3 of all legislation is under the control of the national parliaments, after Lisbon it will be 95%…”

    She’s making stuff up. That isn’t what the Germany’s Federal Constitutional Court declared in its judgement of on February 2009. It found that “the status of national parliaments is considerably curtailed” by provisions contained within the Treaty of Lisbon.

    In actuality, up to 80% of all Ireland’s laws originate with the EU. After Lisbon and the transfer of over 60 new areas of national policy, that figure will rise, not fall.

  • RepublicanStones

    Home in Belshaft now after driving from Dublin, anymore word on the Ganley O’Leary tete-a-tete meant to be organised Mick?