“Police apologise in advance for the inconvenience this operation will cause”

There have been more of what the BBC are calling “civil disturbances” in Lurgan for the second night. That means more hijacked and burnt-out vans blocking the railway line. Meanwhile, the BBC also report that the police have launched “what is being described as a major operation aimed at disrupting potential dissident republican activity” ahead of the arrival of the new Chief Constable. Have they asked MI5? From the BBC report

“Police apologise in advance for the inconvenience this operation will cause, but seek the public’s patience and support in what we believe is a necessary step to prevent those with murderous intent going about their business.”

Adds Apparently, those disturbances are no longer “civil”.

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  • Eleanor Bull

    “The railway line between Lisburn and Portadown is closed for a second night.”

    I love the way this is reported. More accurately, it’s the railway line between Belfast (big, important city) and Dublin (really big, really important city) that passes through an inconsequential shit-hole peopled by idiots who claim to want a united Ireland by disrupting all-Ireland rail traffic.

    Let’s face it: if they got a united Ireland tomorrow they’d still be out there in their chav gear, setting light to someone’s van, protesting about how they resented Dublin rule, or the fact that a leading-light (probably someone so dim that if he adopts a rap name it’ll be 40 Watt) in their sink estate has been lifted for shoplifting.

  • aquifer

    Yeah their little vehicle scrappage scheme is pitiful. Why can’t they gang up with property developers bankrupt the country and have the workers pay for it like the tribe of destiny down south.

  • truth seeker

    Lisburn and Portadown….

    2 inconsequential shit-holes peopled by sectarian anti-Catholic idiots.

  • An Lorgain

    Absolute scumbags, it’s about time the decent folk started shopping these fucko’s into the cops. The army have stated they were following members of the ‘mortar team’ for 6 months, surely then they know who needs lifted. Lurgan seems to be divided as ever, we have unionists in council who refuse to elect a nationalist to the mayor posts, year on year. A beautiful park patrolled by sectarian gangs, yearly fights over flags and worst of all murderers (now behind bars)
    It’s worth noting a couple of areas remain sensible, Taghnaven being one, even though it’s the largest estate, it’s the quietest.

  • Eleanor Bull

    “Lisburn and Portadown….

    2 inconsequential shit-holes peopled by sectarian anti-Catholic idiots. ”

    That’s as maybe, but what relevance have they to rioting in Lurgan, pray tell?

  • fair_deal

    An L

    “we have unionists in council who refuse to elect a nationalist to the mayor posts, year on year”

    Do Dolores Kelly and Ignatius Fox not qualify as nationalists?

  • dunreavynomore

    “inconsequential shit-hole ” “Absolute scumbags”
    “fucko’s”
    It’s the beautiful use of the English language that brings me to slugger..

  • The disturbances have come too late to be included in a new book, “Policing the Narrow Ground”.

  • slug

    The important point is surely that the Police will now have to take a harder line on these types of dissident-associated yobs. That brings them into conflict with dissidents. So the job of policing has got to get a little more confrontational – this is a new phase of policing and a necessary one to bring us to a normal society where the Police do not tolerate such rioting.

  • borderline

    Between Portadown and Lurgan,

    this is where the last fight shall be.

  • oh dear me

    5. Can you really not see the connection.

  • Eleanor Bull

    “5. Can you really not see the connection.”

    There is no connection.

  • igor

    “The important point is surely that the Police will now have to take a harder line on these types of dissident-associated yobs. ”

    Ah but you missed the Chief Constable on TV the other night. It’s no longer about that. It’s about policing WITH the community. So PSNI cant just rush in. They now need to follow the agreed process:

    * carefully assess the situation from a distance
    * engage with ‘community representaitives’ whose votes depend upon the scumbags rioting and their grannies
    * consider the real motivation of the rioters. Is it just that their friends were caught with a mortar destined for use against the police or is there some deeper underlying sociological cause that needs to be considered?
    * try to find holistic ways of dealing with that anger and channelling it into more productive activites that will have the support of the coimmunty.
    * hold workshops to develop these ideas into positive action plans and develop ways to make young people confront their own behaviours. These might include developing a controlled rioting area in Lurgan (staffed by specially trained social workers) where young people can go to work out their anger eg by burning surplus police vehicles The programme might include being counselled by Sinn Fein party workers and paid ex-PIRA volunteers who wll explain that violence in NI achieved nothing(except getting them this poxy job) and who will explain the role of the Great Leader in delivering a United Ireland and how this will bear fruit ‘soon(ish)’

    If these measures are unsuccessful, the Police will then:-

    * develop an action plan
    * carry out a full human rights assessment on this
    * have it fully vetted by counsel
    * carry out a full health and safety assessment
    * seek clear medical advice on psychological counselling for any officers traumatised by having to deal with said scumbags
    * ensure that any operations don’t fall on holy days for any of the major world religions and that translators will be on hand on the day
    * book the operation for one of the few days the helicopter is available
    * consult the policing board (which meets every month), the local council and local ‘community representatives (again)

    In summary, we might see them the police there around January 2010 (resources permitting)

  • victor

    You’re full of the joys of spring (autumn) this fine morning, Igor.

    Go for a nice walk and let it all out, there’s a good lad.

  • igor

    I just yearn for the slap of firm Government. I know. Its a fetish.

    Dolores Kelly says that all this has been caused by a couple of dozen young people. So why hasn’t it been dealt with? Why aren’t some of them in custody? Might that inflame local passions?

    Where are the local MLA’s? What have they done? Do SF still have representatives down there?

  • slug

    Igor – that was funny! And not so far off the mark.

  • An Lorgain

    [i]Do Dolores Kelly and Ignatius Fox not qualify as nationalists? [/i]

    Two nationalist mayors in 36 years, the first one being 1999, as Dolores says “You only have to look at their record,” she added. “The unionists in Craigavon don’t want a Catholic about the place.”

    SF have held seats on the council for 24 years, they have been the joint second largest party on the council for the last 4 years, yet they have never held either of the mayor posts, do you believe this to be fair and equal?

    Craigavon council certainly has a colourful history, recently there has been the treatment of the councils first Catholic chief executive…..

    [b]Mr Rock’s suspension is the latest twist in a two-year saga which began in November 2006 when he received a bullet through the post, threatening him, his wife and his two adopted children – it followed a staffing shake-up he was proposing at Craigavon Civic Centre.

    A year later, he went on extended sick leave through stress on full pay (reported to be £80,000 a year) and this was reduced to half pay at the end of July. And in the meantime, Scotsman Michael Docherty was employed as an interm chiel executive at £680 a day plus expenses for renting a home in Craigavon and travel expenses to and from Scotland each weekend.

    Last Friday, Mr Rock’s GP deemed him fit to return to work and he contacted the Civic Centre to say he would be back on Tuesday past – but Monday night’s meeting made the suspension decision, placing him back on full pay, having taken legal advice.

    Nationalist suggested extended leave for Mr Rock, pending further investigations, but this was move failed and the suspension went through on an 11-7 majority. The council is progressing the issue through the Joint Council for Chief Executives to Local Councils and the NI Staff Commission, and is seeking a swift resolution.
    [/b]

    In the past it has been found guilty of religious discrimination against an employee and in 1988 we had this…..

    [i]17 past and serving unionist members of the Council were surcharged for a total of £225,719.05, and barred from holding public office for 10 years after a court found them guilty of wilful misconduct in their handling of a planning application by a local GAA club. [/i]

    And we know how they feel about Muslims wanting to build a mosque, big no no due to ‘wailing’. Indeed, what a lovely bunch of unionists we have in the council….

  • Jamesy

    love post 1 Eleanor. 😀

  • Only Asking.

    The important point is surely that the Police will now have to take a harder line on these types of dissident-associated yobs.

    Buy them skateboards to run away quicker.

  • And we know how they feel about Muslims wanting to build a mosque

    To be fair, that was Fred Crowe on a one-man suicide mission, aided and abetted by some stone-throwing local neanderthals. The lack of condemnation from certain quarters was deafening though…

  • PS: for those not familiar with Fred Crowe, he was the one pictured on the front of the local paper complaining that there were green, white AND yellow markings on the cycle lanes.