Thanks for all the fish – last blog

The answer wasn’t 42. I’m out of here.

Thanks to many. Boo-hiss to others.

Cheerio – I’ve got a job needs held down can’t be doing with wankers fucking it up for kicks.

  • Dave

    Did someone from Slugger interfere in your place of work for some sinister purpose? If so, sorry to hear that and that you regard the trespass as serious enough to quit posting.

    There are too many profferers of the status quo here, so you’ll be a loss to the quality of threads. Voices like yours are needed, so I hope whatever the problem is can be resolved and that you’ll be able to post again.

    If, on the other hand, you’re just having a hissy-fit: get over yourself, precious. 😉

  • Mark,

    Very sorry to hear this. You’ll be missed. Wankers is the right word. Perhaps vindictive small-minded arseholes might also cover it.

  • Guest

    Mark,
    Best of luck so.
    I have enjoyed many of your posts.

  • Johnnieismarchinghome

    Mark,
    I have not read yet what has caused your departure. I am saddened, you were one of the reasons I visit here.

    Another voice silenced. isn’t democracy great?

  • Big Maggie

    Mark,

    I’m sorry to see you go. A family tragedy kept me from commenting on Slugger these last weeks. Not quite over it yet :^(

    Do come back though when you feel the time is right. I’ve always enjoyed your sensitive and intelligent posts.

  • Guest

    This place is seriously out of it’s head.
    No idea why Mark is legging it.
    Listening to people all day talking about Shared Futures and conservative prime-ministers and chickens and turkeys.and then jupiter.

    I’m staying.

  • Mark McGregor

    Chill. I’m not dead. I’m no longer a blogger but can’t we just dwell on the fact Mick won’t delete my swears? Twats.

  • Big Maggie

    Mark,

    “Mick won’t delete my swears?”

    That makes no sense at all to me. Care to elucidate?

  • Guest

    Mark,
    I reckon a few of us have been waiting on your response but still understand.Any chance of an external email or blog if you prefer to explain elsewhere?

  • Pour a forty on the kerb, another one bites the dust,

    Rumour has it he’s had an epiphany a few weeks ago and is off to join his local lodge…

    🙂

  • Granter

    Missing you already – not.

  • Balconite

    The arrogance of feeling the need to bid us plebs ‘bye, bye’ speaks volumes.

    Get over yourself ffs.

  • Mark McGregor

    keith,

    ;0) – you the man.

    Folks,

    I’m off. Have fun with whatever you make of this and do try your best to blame the shinners, it is what I’d want.

    RIP – MMG

  • Drumlins Rock

    confusted ?!@?:@

    sure the the bloggers are over rated anyways, all the need do is post –

    Orange – discuss
    GAA -discuss
    Jupiter – igonre
    cricket – sleep

    and wee fill in the rest

  • Guest

    Drumlin-
    sure the the bloggers are over rated anyways, all the need do is post –

    Orange – discuss
    GAA -discuss
    Jupiter – igonre
    cricket – sleep

    and wee fill in the rest.

    I’ve enjoyed Mark’s posts but you’re generally spot on.

  • frustrated democrat

    Mark

    We may not have started from the same place but I am sorry to see you go, I always had a soft spot for your posts and your desire to look at things from different viewpoints.

    Have a rethink, Slugger will be a lesser place without you.

  • Driftwood

    Headhunted by Rupert Murdoch?

    or maybe Palace Barracks don’t like their people blogging

    But no Douglas Adams, nowhere near.

    next!

  • Guest

    next!
    Posted by Driftwood

    You’ve ran away from several conversations today and then come up with this sad tabloid crap.Any chance of responding, or are you the latest form of continious Bullshit?

  • cynic

    Havent always agreed but good luck with job and with life

  • Driftwood

    Huh?

    Ran away from what? No big deal.
    just like mcgregors blogs. When he realised the republican bullshit had been flushed down the toilet, he resorted to Antrim GAA as a form of rehab.

    Shalom, guest.

  • Guest

    Ok Drift.
    “Ran away from what? No big deal.
    Ok.I’ll re-post the questions you evade tomorrow before 2 CET.I made several points concerning the UUP Tory agreement, and the fact that they would be violating the true union by neutering the northern Irish voice? Anyway, I’ll quote it all tomorrow on this very thread.

  • Driftwood

    Guest
    Wrong thread, post it somewhere else.
    As to your point, there should be no special Northern Irish voice, any more than a Yorkshire or Cornish voice. All UK regions.
    And all regions of the Mother of Parliaments.

    2 CET? Gimme a break. Off to bed, don’t bother with the posts.

  • guest

    I thought 2 CET would give you at least 12 hours break?
    “As to your point, there should be no special Northern Irish voice, any more than a Yorkshire or Cornish voice. All UK regions.”
    -So what is this “we are Irish too thing about”????

  • Guest

    I’ll start with 2 drift.
    1.
    #

    David Cameron has been trying to address the issue. Vote Conservative and Unionist, and be both Irish and British. Or either.
    We’re going to have a Unionist government at Westminster for the next 8 years. Nationalists need to forget the past and become part of changing things within the United Kingdom.
    If they don’t wish to be part of that, fine. But there’s not a damn thing they can do about it. And it’s no big deal.

    Brilliant Leonard Cohen concert at the Odyssey tonight, still on a high!
    Posted by Driftwood on Jul 27, 2009 @ 12:10 AM

    2
    #

    Whatever one’s political allegances, where do people see the Stormont Assembly going, in the medium to long term?
    I’d like someone, Unionist, Nationalist or neither to honestly assess this IMHO white elephant.
    It enacts little if any legislation, has no power over anything really important (Westminster controls the economy)and is a standing joke in terms of the debates conducted there.
    It’s a gravy train, and everyone bloody knows it.
    Posted by Driftwood on Jul 27, 2009 @ 12:36 AM

    You know the thread.

  • Driftwood

    Yorkshire, Geordie, Irish-paddy, Welsh-Taff, Scots-jock, Cockney-London, Scouse-liverpool, etc

    how many native Americans in the USA now? After you wiped them all out?

    Then exported McDonalds, KFC etc here to wipe us out with type 2 diabetes.

    End of….

  • Guest

    My three respones without answer.
    David Cameron has been trying to address the issue. Vote Conservative and Unionist, and be both Irish and British. Or either. “

    A large portion of ni’s population are Irish and not British.Why would they need to vote conservative when it is already agreed in the Belfast agreement that they have the right to be Irish without having to be also British?

    “The old building stands well enough, though part Gothic, part Grecian, and part Chinese, until an attempt is made to square it into uniformity. Then indeed it may come down upon our heads, all together, in much uniformity of ruin; and great will be the fall thereof” (1769))-Edmund Burke.

    The conservatives have no new wonderful economic policy.We are suffering from a global downturn and there will most likely be a continuous and slow upturn over the next ten years no matter who is running Britain.Even if they did have a miracle cure there remains the problem of Northern Ireland Unionists losing its voice to a Tory and therefore English Whip,in the event of there being a swing towards the CUNF.There is tacit acceptance in the UUPs moves into the torys that unionism is unheard at Westminister.They have decided to throw in the towel on proper Northern Irish representation and gone for integration.As I stated in the event of swing to this new unionist creature,the views of northern Ireland voters would no longer have any importance at all and that would be a fatal wound to unionism in the long-term(of course individual UUP members would get great pensions!).The DUP would distance themselves further from the British establishment and continue to find common ground with their fellow Irishmen(and cattle)-the ones who stand up for Irishmen in Europe and on the international stage without going through Westminister.
    However,the UUP’s Trimble-driven agenda of integration by stealth will fail simply because the party itself has not gripped the Belfast Agreement’s concept of a shared past.They want everyone to move on the basis of unionism when even the dogs in the street know that the principle of consent is undermined by nationalist/unionist designation within Stormont and North-south bodies that testify to the uniqueness of NI within the UK.

    My point concerning “issue” voting is simply that we don’t get to vote on individual issue but to elect individuals/parties who have broad lines on many matters usually fitting into a resonant political philosophy.In Northern Ireland the verses might be of interest but the Chorus is either green or orange, and indeed, the political philosophy is hugely mandated by that chorus.

  • Guest

    Drift-Then exported McDonalds, KFC etc here to wipe us out with type 2 diabetes.

    End of…. ”

    Sorry I even bothered.

  • guest

    shire, Geordie, Irish-paddy, Welsh-Taff, Scots-jock, Cockney-London, Scouse-liverpool, etc

    how many native Americans in the USA now? After you wiped them all out?-Driftwood;

    You need to see a physcologist.

  • the gimp

    [i]You need to see a physcologist. [/i]

    And you, guest, for engaging with the lunatic in the first place. He’s a poor man’s wind-up merchant. Ignore him as I can only assume that’s how people in the “real world” deal with him.

  • Guest

    Gimp,

    He is indeed a poor mans’ version but I do believe it does some good to interact with the madness.The madness is well,mad enough, to begin its self-critique which may result in occasionally super interesting madness.
    No loss.Time is gain.

  • Dave

    “Why would they need to vote conservative when it is already agreed in the Belfast agreement that they have the right to be Irish without having to be also British?”

    You misunderstand. If you were born in Northern Ireland, your nationality is British. That is not in any way altered by the GFA. The only way that you could no longer be a British citizen is if you applied to the Home Office to formally renounce your British citizenship. However, because you cannot declare yourself to be a stateless person under British law and international law, you must first acquire citizenship from another sovereign state before you can renounce your British nationality.

    Acquiring Irish citizenship does not constitute an act of renouncing your British nationality. Irish citizenship is not conferred upon you by the GFA. Under the British-Irish Agreement, you are entitled as a British citizen born in Northern Ireland to apply for Irish citizenship. If you do not apply for it, you are not an Irish citizen. If you are granted Irish citizenship but do not renounce your British citizenship, you will continue to be both Irish and British.

    The actual declaration in Article 1 of the British-Irish Agreement is that you have the right to choose to be “Irish [b]or[/b] British, or both.” Since you are born British, you can only choose not to be British (and your choice requires that you act accordingly to either attain Irish nationality or reject British nationality). Since you are not born Irish, you must choose to be Irish and act to attain it.

    So, to answer your question, since the British government holds the sovereignty for Northern Ireland, you will need to engage with the British government if you wish to engage with reality rather than pretend that the British government is now irrelevant because you have the right to apply for an Irish passport post-GFA (a right that you always had, anyway).

  • guess

    Dave.we’re going to go through this step by step tomoroww togehter by phone.IT is going to be interesting?or by email with the various “powers”.
    I am born in baile dubh ghaill but wil take your point anyway and see what happpens?

  • Ah, thread drift and wankers, the perils of blogging.

    Sorry to see you go, Mark, although we’ve more than occasionally had our moments ;-). Appreciate that if people are being dicks, work and family come first, but I will miss your contribution even if I often disagree with it.

    Let me know if you fancy getting sh1tf@ced in town sometime. I was going to say, I might even come out to Crumlin, but I think that’s straining friendship a little.

  • Guest

    In other words dave lets pretend that I am an Irsh citizen and yet one born in the north, and see what our argument concerning nation states lead us?

  • Dewi

    Shame Mark – a different angle which will be missed (and you introduced sporcle.com to us)
    Hope you continue to comment at least.

  • Guest

    “must choose to be Irish and act to attain it.

    So, to answer your question, since the British government holds the sovereignty for Northern Ireland, you will need to engage with the British government if you wish to engage with reality rather than pretend that the British government is now irrelevant because you have the right to apply for an Irish passport post-GFA (a right that you always had, anyway).

    And I am so afraid of the Telephone!!

  • Comrade Stalin

    Sorry about all the crap, Mark. I hope you’ll pop along to the Slugger meets if/when they happen.

    This is why I post under a pseudonym. Yes, people have a go at you for not signing your own name to your contributions. On the other hand, there are some nasty little men out there who take everything personally, and if they really want to they can inflict serious damage. Newton Emerson survived a particularly nasty and vindictive effort to wreck his career (in the end NI gained a rather insightful columnist out of it – talk about backfiring spectacularly ..).

  • Comrade Stalin

    Article 12 clause 4.1 – Bunreacht Na hEireann (Irish Constitution) states:
    “Every citizen who has reached his thirty-fifth year of age is eligible for election to the office of President.”

    Ah, but the Irish version takes precedence:

    1° Gach saoránach ag a bhfuil cúig bliana tríochad slán, is intofa chun oifig an Uachtaráin é.

    If I’m right (and I may not be, my Irish is crap) there’s no gender there. Can any Irish speakers clarify ?

  • Babykins

    So if you post what some would regard as partisan posts in a sometimes bitterly divided blog where some contributors may be victims of violence and may therefore be hurt and emotional, and you appear to act as an (un)official publicist for a nasty little group such as eirigi and some people take offence?

    Oh dear what is the world coming to? What was it someone once said about ‘kitchen’ and ‘heat’?

  • Sorry to tell you Comrade Stalin: the “é” at the end of the sentence is masculine.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Bugger.

  • fionn

    “how many native Americans in the USA now? After you wiped them all out?”

    surely, it was the Brits wiped them out? (with some assistance from the French).

  • Drumlins Rock

    still a bit confused, but think i’m gettin the drift, (dont mean the usual Irish, no British, No Irish!!!,NO BRITISH ),
    Mark hope you hang about and continue to comment, was flippant before but enjoyed your posts, and your viewpoint is needed on here, I’m def gonna stay hidden behind a screen name for now, I post too much on here i regret afterwards lol.

  • George

    Mark,
    good luck in the future.

    USA,
    However now notice the constitution does also refer to “his thirty fifth year” which presents a substantially more difficult constitutional impediment.

    It doesn’t. You have to have a harmonious interpretation of the Constitution and if you interpret “he” in this sentence as meaning only men can become President then it falls foul of the other constitutional provisions on equality.

    Hence “he” includes “she” in this instance and in the case of fundamental rights “citizen” includes “non-citizen”.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Any chance you could take that OTHER annoying fecker Baker with you? And I was looking forward to a thread where you would blame SF for Antrim’s defeat?

    Dont mean a word of it – best of luck.

  • just asking

    yawn

  • skullion

    Do we applaud or observe a minute’s silence?

  • fair_deal

    Sorry to see you go but family comes first. Good luck.

  • James

    Enjoyed Mark’s contributions to Slugger.

    I think Mark, Turgon, Kensei, Gonzo, Fair Deal, Dec etc.. add real and honest substance to the site, this compared to some others, who’s threads seem petty and pointless.

    The coverage of the 12th – (Gonzo & Mark) was excellent and real. Can’t think of anyone else online who did as good a job with the coverage and getting behind the scenes.

  • DaithiO

    For sure Mark will be missed.

    So can someone explain why he felt he should stop posting here? Did someone take exception and make threats to him publicly?

  • As an Alliance voter can i just add my sympathy to all concerned no matter which side of the community they hail from. Peace on earth, goodwill to all men etc etc.

  • Danny O’Connor

    Good Luck Mark.Iam sorry to hear that you are not putting up any more blogs, some shitheads have obviously got to you to the extent that you no longer feel comfortable ,so much for freedom of speech.

  • just asking

    Did someone take exception and make threats to him publicly?

    We won’t know until he tells us, but if this is the case and anyone went to his employer then has he reported said interference to police?

    I’ve got a job needs held down can’t be doing with wankers fucking it up for kicks.

    Sounds like a police matter not a blogging matter, and how does he know the interference is linked to blogging..?? If yes, and its to do with blogging are the police involved,if not why not, and if it is not related to slugger then why is it here?

    yawnnnnnnn