“The views of the public face of loyalism in Belfast does not represent..”

The situation surrounding the statement by the Regional Committee UPRG North Antrim and Londonderry may be more complicated than Chris thinks. We’ve seen dissent in the UDA over the de facto leadership’s strategy before – notably in South East Antrim. One of our commenters, “riddle me this”, believes something is afoot.

6.The UPRG seems to be falling apart. I understand that their national committee no longer meet due to fallings out and that this statement is the start of Derry and North Antrim going it alone. This must have been sanctioned by their so called Brigadier so a split in the UDA is now on the cards. This in itself is potentially very worrying indeed.

And if the reports of the NIO’s refusal of demands for financial and political capital prior to the UDA’s reported start to decommission are true, or partially true, that might be seen to be reflected in the statement’s references to

“ongoing demonisation of loyalism in the region by government, politicians and others, the political apathy in relation to dealing with with the social issues affecting our grass roots loyalist communities and the politically motivated ‘green agenda’ operated by the PSNI throughout the north west”

and

“In 1998 were were told that no section of the community would be left behind in building a new Northern Ireland. However, since then, grass roots loyalist communities in the north west have been ignored and allowed to wallow in poverty, destitution and squalor. Political interference in community funding initiatives has seen vital work being carried out by loyalist community activists go ignored and unfunded”.

Such concerns have previously been expressed by that de facto leadership, Jackie McDonald in March 2007, and by the UPRG’s Frankie Gallagher in September of the same year. And there can be little doubt as to who the “public face of loyalism in Belfast” is a reference to in the UPRG’s statement.

“The situation today, with the announcement that the loyalist community in the largest geographical area of the Province have withdrawn their support for political institutions and the PSNI serve to remind all politicians that Northern Ireland is not about the city of Belfast alone. “Loyalist communities in North Antrim and Londonderry have been unfairly excluded. The views of the public face of loyalism in Belfast does not represent what loyalists in the rest of the Province are thinking. “The issues facing loyalists face in North Antrim [and] Londonderry are completely separate to those faced by loyalists in the urban expanse of Belfast and surrounding areas.”

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  • Paul

    Just another excuse to commit crime and not disarm

  • Damien Okado-Gough

    You can be sure that Jackie McDonald’s recent statements on racism have gone down with the North Antrim and Londonderry Brigade like a lead balloon. Hatred of non-whites is as much a part of the make-up of the NALB as is their hatred of all things Nationalist and Republican.

    When I read McDonald’s statement calling on people to turn the racists over to the police the first image that came to mind was The Mexican flying into a rage. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if McDonald’s statement was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

  • riddle me this

    It gets worse. I am told by a reliable source that the statement is actually over 15 pages long! It makes a series of allegations against various people in that area and also critcises the leadership in Belfast. It bemoans the lack of support for the Derry (and beyond) area and even somehow blames the recent murder on the victim himself!

    This will run and run.

  • daisy

    “grass roots loyalist communities in the north west have been ignored and allowed to wallow in poverty, destitution and squalor. Political interference in community funding initiatives has seen vital work being carried out by loyalist community activists go ignored and unfunded”. ”

    Oh, where to start. Do these people take any responsibility for their own actions? Drug dealing and associated criminal activities of so-called loyalist representatives of the UDA et al have ensured that the most deprived loyalist areas stay that way, and that is just they way they like it because it guarantees them power and control.

    No one votes for the political representatives of loyalism – whose fault is that? A bit of introspection wouldn’t go amiss.

  • dunreavynomore

    “and even somehow blames the recent murder on the victim himself”

    So Sinn Féin’s ‘outreach’ is working after all and their tactic of criminalising murder victim Paul Quinn has struck a chord with loyalism.

  • Davros

    “loyalists in the rest of the Province are thinking”

    Surely something of an exaggeration.

  • coincidence

    Wednesday – UDA Statement

    Thursday – Orchestrated attacks carried out against 5 Catholic Churches and 2 GAA properties

    Coincidence???

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]Wednesday – UDA Statement

    Thursday – Orchestrated attacks carried out against 5 Catholic Churches and 2 GAA properties

    Coincidence??? “[/i]

    those Nationalist law students must be well informed these days.

  • Bemused

    Loyalist scum in “Loyalists behaving like scum” shocker.

  • Mrsta

    Hi UMH, I’ve just figured out what you mean by the reference to “nationalist law students” in almost every thread. Your completely off the hook!

  • Quagmire

    They’ve set down a very clear challenge to the British govt, to the Stormont executive and to the police. Its time to round all the loyalist scumbags up and throw them into the clink! They’ve been given too much time and attention already. If they are so worried about their “own” communities then why do they sell drugs to the youth in those communities? A bunch of cretins one and all!!

  • Mrsta: please don’t engage with the retarded.

  • Mirko

    The Derry and North Antrim Brigade are clearly bitter that their former comrades in arms in the British establishment have abandoned them. After all, its most infamous member, Mr Torrens Knight, was rewarded for at least two depraved acts of mass murder by being recruited as a paid agent. Why wouldn’t the rest of the brigade also expect the Establishment’s going rate? Start by civilising yourselves…

  • “may be more complicated than Chris thinks.”

    Chris’ ‘pram’ gets a mention in another story from the Sentinel:

    UUP Alderman Mary Hamilton said the woman was left shaken when missiles missed the child’s pram by inches.

  • Mrsta

    thx for the advice Pat but you must admit, the compulsion to comment on his ravings is hard to resist sometimes.

  • the joxer

    I thought it was only the Antrim GAA footballers who suffered from a ‘town v country’ split.

  • the joxer

    I thought it was only the Antrim GAA footballers who suffered from a ‘town v country’ split.

  • thejoxer

    sorry. a bad ‘joke’ told once is plenty..