IRA vs Taliban on US TV…

POSSIBLY the dumbest, most improbable, inaccurate, embarrassingly bad and testosterone-fuelled American video-game treatment of terrorism yet. IRA or Taliban? Laugh or cry?

  • Cahal

    Well, they had to win something eventually.
    It’s worth watching it for the catapult alone.

  • Danny O’Connor

    America armed the taliban to fight Russia
    America armed Saddam to fight Iran
    America armed the ira Noraid
    America armed the S American paramilitaries,Oliver North.
    America rogue state with wmds ,scary or what?

  • steve

    did that scene come from the naked gun two or delta farce or something?

  • OC

    I watched the TV show, and the claim that the IRA beat the British Army is laughable.

    The IRA should just be glad that they weren’t fighting the Sri Lanka or Pakistan government, which blow up hundreds, even thousands of civilians, create hundreds of thousands of internal refugees, and no one says shit.

    White. Man’s. Burden.

  • RG Cuan

    What the foc?! Ridiculous show.

  • Vladimir Lenihan

    Cue a new line of IRA t-shirt: ‘South Armagh say’s “Mujaha wha’?”‘

    Yanks are pathetic

  • Well

    That was great viva the RA

  • Padraig

    Good fun and both the RA and the Taliban beat the crap out of the Brits

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    There’s probably some folk in NI who were cheering on either side. Gung-ho and all that!

    A wonder Rambo didn’t appear too.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    Where’s the suicide bomber scene? the mutilation of human bodys?, the murder of women and children?, the hostage made to drive live bombs into civilian areas?, the selling of drugs for weapons?

  • Pancho

    I didn’t watch the video so you have to tell me who won.

    Was it society?

  • Rory Carr

    There is no point in getting on one’s moral high horse about this sort of thing and going all, “Harrumph, harrumph” because you will simply come across as a stuffy old git if you do, the problem being that however distasteful or morally dubious or politically incorrect one finds it, it is funny. At least I found it funny and it reminded me of very early Woody Allen films, in particular Bananas, which still can have me in tears with Woody in full Castro/Che guerilla gear (including beard) as defendant in a New York court grilling a large Afican-American woman, who identifies herself as “J Edgar Hoover” – Oh! go see it for yourselves.

  • latcheeco

    It was a funny show. They said the RA’s secret advantage was their skill with catapults/slingshots/caddies. WTF?
    OC,
    And your granny should be glad she never had balls, because then she’d be your granda.

  • OC

    And if you had balls, latcheeco, you’d be a punk, rather than a cunt.

  • latcheeco

    Apologies OC didn’t mean to hurt your wee feelings. Didn’t realise you were sensitive about your granny’s privates. My point was that historical hypotheticals out of context are a waste of time.

  • OC

    What is it with some posters here? How about, “I’m sorry. My comment was out of line.” No hedging. No further insults. So fuck you very much for nothing.

    But more to the point, the IRA mythos is a case of being smitten with one’s own PR.

  • latcheeco

    You see OC,
    I feel your pain brother but some of us other sensitive souls find it insulting when it is insinuated by some posters that they would be delighted if the British army had been able to kill or displace thousands of nationalist civilians in order to really defeat the IRA a la Sri Lanka.

  • latcheeco

    Also,
    FYI “if your granny had balls she’d be your granda” is an old Belfast idiom on the uselessness of “what ifs?”. It’s not meant to be taken as a personal slight to anyone’s particular granny… or her fanny.

  • Plastic Paddy

    I watched this show once, it was a battle between Shaka Zulu and William Wallace. Mad stuff, but entertaining.

  • Davros

    Its basically live action Top Trumps really

  • David Cather

    It reminds me of “Ultimate Weapon” where Hulk Hogan fights some Irish American IRA supporters. Or something like that, I only watched part of it and the plot was thin to say the least.

  • latcheeco

    Davros,
    That’s exactly what it was. It was marginally interesting with historical characters (apache, ninja etc) as Plastic Paddy says but this one was roll on the floor ridiculous.

  • west belfast

    Apparently they were going to have one featuring the UDA/UVF/UFF/LVF/UDF/PAF/RHC/RHD/OV (you kinda forget how many variations ‘kill all taigs’ can have) but they had all killed each other in a feud over who had the best tattoo, nickname and cocaine!

  • OC

    Posted by latcheeco on Jun 14, 2009 @ 02:56 PM, quo he:

    “some of us other sensitive souls find it insulting when it is insinuated by some posters that they would be delighted if the British army had been able to kill or displace thousands of nationalist civilians in order to really defeat the IRA a la Sri Lanka.”

    I could go “whatabout”, but suffice it to say that the fact that the British army didn’t “kill or displace thousands of nationalist civilians in order to really defeat the IRA a la Sri Lanka” is a tribute to a restraint disregarded IMO by the IRA et al.

  • latcheeco

    OC,
    If they showed any restraint in this area it was only because after Bloody Sunday they realized the wholesale slaughter of civilians would be self-defeating and not, as you imply, because they held to some civilized higher moral standard.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    The only reason the IRA ever got recognised globally and in some areas in the world they became revered as deadly terrorists, is because the British army prolonged the troubles instead of taking them all out. They knew they could control them and use them as guinea-pigs in the battle against world-wide terror. he,he,he

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]If they showed any restraint in this area it was only because after Bloody Sunday they realized the wholesale slaughter of civilians would be self-defeating and not, as you imply, because they held to some civilized higher moral standard”[/i]

    latcheeco, what makes you think the British forces killed all the people? The IRA are renowned for killing their own type and blaming it on someone else.

  • west belfast

    UMH

    If you keep saying it you may even start to believe it!

    So your Govt allowed its citizens (RUC, British Army, civilians etc) to die to construct a training manual? And you are proud of that? And when did they decide to do this then? Before or after Brighton? Before or after Downing St was mortar bombed? Before or after Canary Wharf? Before or after the Baltic Exchange?

    And some accuse the republican movement of revisionism!

  • Ulsters my homeland

    west belfast, wouldn’t be the first time an IRA/Sinn Fein member/informer (now dead) shot his own kind and went along with a story blaming it on loyalists.

    wouldn’t be the first time the IRA/Sinn Fein shot a woman pushing a pram in derry and blamed it on the Brits.

    wouldn’t be the first time the IRA/Sinn Fein leadership decided to kill 4/5 hunger strikers for political progress while blaming it all on the Brits.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]So your Govt allowed its citizens (RUC, British Army, civilians etc) to die to construct a training manual? And you are proud of that? And when did they decide to do this then? Before or after Brighton? Before or after Downing St was mortar bombed? Before or after Canary Wharf? Before or after the Baltic Exchange?

    And some accuse the republican movement of revisionism!”[/i]

    west belfast, our Government could have wiped out the IRA, but they knew the Catholic/Nationalist/Republican community would create something much worse and more uncontrolable.

  • latcheeco

    Agreed UMH,
    It was practicality and not moral restraint that governed British strategy.

  • Penelope

    This show is nothing more than an excuse to set up hypothetical batttles using historical, both current and ancient, “bad boys” to whallop each other with lots of things blowing up and fake blood. Historical accuracy or political awareness of the players involved is hardly a consideration. Any intelligent person could see that.

    Plastic Paddy gets what it’s all about. It’s just silly boys beating up each other in fancy dress. Mad stuff not to be taken seriously.

    But seeing how some you NI lads are getting your knickers in a twist and start in with each other and the whataboutery is just as amusing, if not more so. Carry on lads, carry on…

  • John

    What a load of S***
    People need to get with the real world.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    Penelope, I wouldn’t mind such a program if it was accurate to the truth. There’s no suicide bombers, no human mutilations, no hostages made drive into civilised area with live bombs, no semtex, no murdering of women and children.

    Come on, isn’t this supposed to be slightly realistic and representational to the strategies and weapons used by these terrorist?

    …and IRA man running around with a machine gun and the Taliban with rocket launchers….for fuck sake, who made this horrid piece of shit? they should be sacked on the grounds of poor research.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    …what real battle was the IRA involved in? Don’t bring up Gibraltar where Mariad Farrell (GAA hero) squealed like a pig when the SAS emerged.

  • Taliban Ted

    They should have had the Taliban laying some Afghan Black on the UVF and then the ‘Ra coming in to sort things out. Another good scenario would have been Mary Lou selling her favours in Peshawar and the Taliban Teddy Boys getting upset. O how about the ra supplying little boys to the Northern Alliance and the Taliban responding.

    The BNP should be happy with this. I also watched William Wallace v Shaka Zulu and again the white guyws won. So this is probablya white power video even though the DUP/UFF are the white power supremacists.

  • Comrade Stalin

    America armed the ira Noraid

    Danny, this isn’t fair. The US state didn’t arm the IRA, and the FBI successfully lifted many of the people involved in shipping arms and finance to the IRA. Some American senators may have been close to NORAID but I don’t believe backing them was ever the position of the US government.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    didn’t the Dublin government help arm the Provo’s during the 60/70’s?

  • OC

    Posted by latcheeco on Jun 14, 2009 @ 05:04 PM, quo he:

    “It was practicality and not moral restraint that governed British strategy.”

    A 19th Century Union general (Sherman or Sheridan IIRC) said something to the effect that, “War is the worst thing that humans engage in; but once war starts, the moral imperative is to end it as quickly as possible, by whatever means necessary.”

    By this thinking, British “practicality” amounted to 30-odd years of immoral policy.

  • Paul Robinson

    The full program is more sinister: in addition to a man concluding that “the IRA has never been beaten by anybody”, he adds “and they never will be”. I wouldn’t mind that so much, but earlier in the program there is graffiti that seems to refer to the Continuity IRA (“CIRA Brits Out”).

  • aquifer

    “If they showed any restraint in this area it was only because after *******, ***, and **** they realized the wholesale slaughter of civilians would be self-defeating and not, as you imply, because they held to some civilized higher moral standard.”

    Put your own ****’s in and who are we talking about?

    It would be very hard to beat the Talaban as they are definitely prepared to die for their cause.

    It’s hard to imagine IRA suicide bombers.

  • RepublicanStones

    Funny stuff….looks like it took place in some halting site for the local McDonagh clan.

    Reminded me of a real computer game I came across a few years ago called ‘JFK Reloaded’. The idea was to try and recreate the trajectory of Oswald’s bullets (even though they came from the grassy knoll). And with a new game coming out called ‘Six Days in Fallujah’ it seems everythings fair game.

  • RepublicanStones

    Discrimination???? Why are there no such things as halting sites? Did i just invent that term?

  • RepublicanStones

    Unless you can show I somehow rejected someone from a job because he/she was a traveller ….merely mentioning a surname, which you yourself admit is a well known clan name, I fail to see how I’ve discriminated against anyone.