‘Piss or get off the pot’

Dissenting republicanism (can there really be any other sort?) decided not to put any candidates forward in the European elections north or south. In the 26 county council elections only a few candidates from RSF were willing to place themselves before the electorate. At their Ard Fheis éirígí have opened the door to future electoralism with a paper endorsing tactical participation and changes to their constitution that permit taking council seats and even seats in Leinster House but firmly ruling out taking Westminster or Stormont seats if ever successful. It remains to be seen if they ever front up and put themselves before the voters. I should also note the IRSP have declared their intention to put forward candidates in future 6 county council elections (can‘t find a link).

  • nineteensixtyseven

    Hmm.. I wonder why, Mark.

  • John O’Connell

    Mark,you must have a rare way of pissing. I think the phrase you are looking for is “Shit or get off the pot”.

  • Ulster is my Homeboy

    Has someone been reading a little too much Anto McIntyre?


  • Mark McGregor


    I was just saying to a friend I’ve loved the line since I read it there and can’t stop using it. It does fit in this context though and I’m sure I’ll lift it again and again….

  • John O’Connell


    I don’t read Anto. I heard the phrase over twenty years ago in Galway.

  • Observer

    “It remains to be seen if they ever front up and put themselves before the voters.”

    Mark, what would be the logic behind Eirigi taking such a decision and then not following it through? After all, as council and assembly elections are due here in two years time, I would say that the real question is on which of these two levels they will be pitching themselves at.

  • Doctor Who

    Mark do you sit down on the bog for a piss just to give yourself a wee treat.

  • Rory Carr

    I can well understand and sympathise with the stance of dissident republicans as to principle, strategy and tactics on contesting elections.

    I have long considered that the world would be a much better place were I to be President of the United States, Prime Minister of the Russian Federation, Prime Minister of the People’s Republic of China, President of France, Roman Pontiff and… well nothing much else matters.

    But anyway the only thing stopping me is that I am not so sure that the people (that incudes you cardinals at the back) are yet ready. They have not yet reached that maturity of conciousness to decide what is best for their own good.

    Never mind. Won’t be long now.

  • Limerick Shinner

    RSF have 3 of their nine candidates in Limerick. On initial inspection seems like an RSF stronghold but in reality they will be lucky to Poll more than 500 votes between the 3 of them.

    As an aside in Limerick City North there is both a RSF candidate and an Independent who is supported by the 32CSM lads and we SF have a candidate.

    But in the end it is fairly pathetic that a supposed national organisation can only field 9 candidates with probably 7 of them having absolutely no hope of election.

  • Comrade Stalin

    The IRSP are comprised mostly of insane Americans, they’ll be laughed away from the polling booth with their ideas to turn Ireland into an Eastern Bloc style “worker’s democracy”.

    I look forward to watching them try.

  • George

    Doctor Who,
    “Mark do you sit down on the bog for a piss just to give yourself a wee treat.”

    You have obviously never been a foot soldier in the great anti-patriarchal war.

    Otherwise you would be aware that you stand up for your rights but sit down for your piss.

  • clarina

    limerick provo, who is the indy candidate supported by the 32s?

  • There is a real need for an opposition within Stormont, éirígí with its radical politics may well have been able to play that role. For éirígí to take an ultra left position and refuse to offer working class nationalists the right to be represented in Stormont by left republicans is a dereliction of duty in my view.

    One of the reasons the Provos have been able to move so far to the right is they have had no progressive opposition within the northern assembly.

    It is quiet possible to enter Stormont on a platform of bringing it down and replacing it with a democratic parliamentary institution.

    It is a fact of political live that extra parliamentary activities can only take us so far, the Provos proved that point.

    It is the duty of all left party’s whether republican or not to get into the parliamentary arena if only to rough the bosses man up.

    I would just add entering the Westminster parliament would be a step to far but for totally different reasons.

  • dunreavynomore

    Comrade Stalin

    The idea of a world full of’ insane Americans’ is strangely appealing as opposed to the existing world full of stone weird god (and mammon)worshipping Irish. Do they play banjos, these daft yanks,?
    If they give us a laugh won’t that be better than the pain in the arse the likes of Sinn Fein, SDLP, Dup, priests,unchristian brothers, merciless sisters, bishops,consultants, experts, ‘celebrities’ and co (and, ahem, bloody bloggers) give us?

  • Lord Canuck (peer of the realm)

    It was due to a medical condition and should not be made fun of.
    J.P.Donleavey was very glad to have a pot to piss in.

  • dunreavynomore

    Lord Canuck (peer of the realm)

    J.P. Dunleavy,wasn’t he another of those ‘insane Americans’?