“In a bizarre turn of events…”

Jeff Peel’s terms not mine. Just had a presser from him noting that “Conservative Central Office yesterday confirmed that Jeffrey Peel, who just a few months ago was suspended as an Area Officer for the Conservatives in Northern Ireland, would be permitted to stand as a Conservative candidate.” Still, things aren’t that bad… Jeff’s blog had this ascerbic reading of the Robinson food story… Now the UCU attack blog has some of the detail Jeff mined earlier from Theyworkforyou.com on the Robinsons’ voting record at Westminster… Great minds and all that… Ahem…

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  • “the Robinsons’ voting record at Westminster”

    A list/table for our 18MPs would give Jeff’s ‘acerbic’ observations some perspective.

  • AJJM

    Nevin, crying that such scrutiny is unjust because everyone else is doing it doesn’t make it right! It just means we have more snouts to remove…

  • Sam

    See also three thousand versts “true” calculation of the Robinson’s food costs.

    http://threethousandversts.blogspot.com/2009/05/hungriest-couple-at-westminster.html

    Comes out at £523.71 a week on food each.

    That’s £74 a day!

    No wonder Peter Robinson’s putting on weight.

  • If Robinson did not have non-attendance-ever MP Martin McGuiness to mind the wheels of NI Government whilst he was away, he would not be able to vote on even 37% of divisions.

    I dont have precise figures for Alex Salmond but his attendance dropped “like a stone” after he became Scottish First Minister.

    I was surprised to hear about all that food though. Maybe they should be called the “Hogg Robinson travellers”

  • AJJM

    Seymour, interesting issue. Should Robinson, as FM, really be an MP? Surely someone who can devote their full-time to the role should be an MP?

    Double-jobbing (or triple) is as unethical as flipping the 2nd home allowance!

  • AJJM, I like to complement justice with fairness. They sort of go hand in hand, you know 😉

  • tits magee

    Jeff would of course have to pass a PAB to get on the list and then subsequently be selected by an association. The words snowballs and hell come to mind!

  • daisy

    Will the Robinsons’ (and others’) expense claims for the Executive be cross-checked with their MP expenses claims to ensure there’s been no claims made on the same dates?

  • Tits Magee…I think you’ve hit the nail on the head!

  • BonarLaw

    “Double-jobbing (or triple) is as unethical as flipping the 2nd home allowance!”

    No it isn’t.

    An MP who is also an MLA receives 1/3 of the MLA salary and those who elect the MP as an MLA are well aware of the offices held.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Are SF MPs the only ones not to personally profit from this corrupt system?

  • ??

    given that some members of camerons shadown cabinet have 6 other jobs i think double jobbing as mla/mp isnt the worse thing in the world.

  • “No it isn’t.”

    BonarLaw,

    Depends whether you call time as important as money. A voter is entitled to elect an MP who will give them full representation.

    We dont get that from the double or triple jobbers

    “Are SF MPs the only ones not to personally profit from this corrupt system?”

    Sammy, the Court of Public opinion says the SF MPs did so profit. They have failed to account for those those exhorbitant apartment costs. They need to reveal the full details of the Landlord in London who takes all the rent. Proof is required that this so-called businessman is not merely a conduit to dishonestly syphon money into SF’s coffers.

  • “given that some members of camerons shadown cabinet have 6 other jobs i think double jobbing as mla/mp isnt the worse thing in the world”

    ??

    Its all projection if denial is not available isn’t it?

  • Neil

    Sammy, the Court of Public opinion says the SF MPs did so profit

    How so? They rent the apartment. They don’t make anything out of the arrangement. The landlord gets paid for his property, that is the usual way of things when you rent somewhere.

    Proof is required that this so-called businessman is not merely a conduit to dishonestly syphon money into SF’s coffers.

    No offence but fuck off. Proof is not required, should we be demanding proof from each and every Unionist as to who their landlords are, and are they a ‘conduit’ or does this special treatment only apply to SF? They have told anyone who cared to listen that there is no dishonest relationship, and until someone has details otherwise they don’t have to reveal anything to anyone. Their hands are clean, but then certain people, like you Seymour, willl assume that SF are guilty of anything and everything that comes along.

    Unlike Unionism in general, SF have not gone out of their way to screw the shit out of the system. This might be hard to take but you guys in your ivory towers (the thieving christians) are being proven to be dishonest fuckers (don’t care if you’re UUP or DUP, be it moats or 500 quid a week each to feed you and your stick insect wife), while SF are attacked in the Tory press (quelle surprise, given their national front linkage with the UUs) about how 5 shinners took over 5 years, an average of 1,000 pounds per month for rent, cleaning, parking etc. So while the fat sows of Unionism are sucking the trough as dry as they can, the Shinners are vilified by those members of the public that are that stupid they’ve allowed themselves to be distracted (by the Tories for fuck sake, is it not even slightly obvious to you, I mean it’s not like they’re being subtle?) from the fact that a large number of your reps are thieving.

    But as usual the ‘court of public opinion’ can deliver a guilty verdict on SF without even hearing the facts, sure aren’t they guilty of everything anyway, must have been at it, while Unionism is beyond reproach sure half a million quid for the Robinsons, it’s a bargain I tells ya.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Neil,

    the problem for Seymour (and many Unionists of both parties) and one that will probably provoke much anguish for him is that SF’s principled stand casts the party he supports in a shocking light. Even for him, often a fair man in his posting on here, to expect him to admit this is frankly expecting to much. So go easy on him.

  • New Blue

    The Sinn Fein position on public office salaries, whilst as a capitalist I find silly, must be respected as a standing by values. How many ‘Socialist’representatives elsewhere in the world give back their salaries?

  • AJJM, I’ve dug up some stats from Public Whip on the percentage voting records for our 18 MPs (most recent is last; Jeffrey Donaldson has appeared wearing three caps)

    Gerry Adams 0, 0, 0

    Gregory Campbell 33.1, 44.4

    Nigel Dodds 46.4, 45.0

    Pat Doherty 0, 0

    Jeffrey Donaldson 26.6, 34.1, 26.1, 40.3, 31.0

    Mark Durkan 26.4

    Michelle Gildernew 0, 0

    Lady Sylvia Hermon 68.3, 27.7

    William McCrea 24.3, 46.0

    Alasdair McDonnell 22.6

    Eddie McGrady 5.8, 4.9, 17.3

    Martin McGuinness 0, 0, 0

    Conor Murphy 0

    Ian Paisley 10.2, 22.2, 20.6

    Iris Robinson 39.5, 28.4

    Peter Robinson 13.5, 48.2, 37.4

    David Simpson 40.0

    Sammy Wilson 48.4

    Just imagine what the mess bills would have been like if attendance was better!!

    What about the carbon foot-print?

  • SF’s stance is even worse than the troughers! Taxpayers money which is intended to cover MPs’ costs being ploughed into supporting a twisted, despicable ideology. A moat per MP would be fairer use of public funds.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    New Blue,

    Please desist from these postings which display impeccable fair-mindedness as it undermining my stereotypical view of UU supporters.

  • “No offence but fuck off”

    Actually, I totally understand where you are coming from but it does not alter anything. Your values may well be very different to mine, to such an extent that then are both floating in space and can never connect. I’m talkng, of course, about ideology.

    I dont care if its the individuals that milk the system or the party machine. Either way, the taxpayer is being screwed and the elected individuals who represent that machine are fair game.

    That means that in the court of public opinion, they are guilty.

  • New Blue

    Sammy

    Sorry mate, just the way i’m wired-up.

    Good thing is I’m not the only one

  • politico

    “Conservative Central Office yesterday confirmed that Jeffrey Peel, who just a few months ago was suspended as an Area Officer for the Conservatives in Northern Ireland, would be permitted to stand as a Conservative candidate.”

    but did it say where !!!!!

  • New Blue

    I hear the Austrailian Conservatives are short on candidates!!!

    Only kidding Jeff, but I’m sure you wouldn’t want to stand on a UCUNF ticket……

    …….would you?

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    New Blue,

    Dont want to add to the intra-party civil war but have a word with your party pal SM re. post 21. He just doesnt seem to understand that the public might see a differnce bewteen SF position and those with their snouts in the trough.

  • oneill

    Are SF MPs the only ones not to personally profit from this corrupt system?

    Sammy etc

    Unless you’re their personal accountant, I’m not sure why you’re so sure about that.

    Bit besides the point though, they’re dedicated to screwing the British system, so they’re only doing what they’ve promised to do and I bet it’ll lose them exactly 0.00% support amongst their core electorate. The rest of the unholy shower don’t have that excuse

  • Reader

    oneill: Bit besides the point though, they’re dedicated to screwing the British system, so they’re only doing what they’ve promised to do and I bet it’ll lose them exactly 0.00% support amongst their core electorate.
    Not very statesmanlike though. More Winnie Mandela than Nelson Mandela.
    But as you say – 0.0% amongst their *core* electorate.

  • AJJM

    Nevin, MPs are elected for many reasons, the major two are to represent their constituents in debates, and scrutinise the government. MPs which fail to achieve these fail their constituents, and shouldn’t be paid a dime.

    “What about the carbon foot-print?”

    If that’s your attitude, go live in a field and walk everywhere. And definitely don’t fart.

  • New Blue…

    No.

    J

  • AJJM

    Sammy McNally,

    Your view is quite reasonable until you realise the logic is flawed. You argue it is ok for Sinn Fein MPs not to appear in Parliament as that is what their constituents voted for.

    However, did the majority of constituents actually vote for having no representation?

    Consider Mid Ulster – less than 50% of those who voted, voted for McGuiness. Or Fermanagh and South Tyrone – just over 30% voted for Michelle Gildernew.

    And why should they put in expense claims for a job they fail to do? That’s like being offered a job, not turning up, but still claiming for expenses.

  • ??

    Id vote for jeff just to annoy reg