Byrne, Adams and the meaning of life…

By all accounts tonight’s The Meaning of Life with Gay Byrne is not to be missed… Tonight, according to the Irish Times TV Listings, he is interviewing Jerry Adams [sic]… From what I’ve heard it is well worth watching, since in his larger mainstream broadcasting career Byrne never took prisoners… Sadly the Internet stream only works inside the Republic… But if anyone fancies YouTubing it, let us know?

UPdate: Their last combative meeting, in several parts: one, two, three, four, five, six and seven

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  • overpaid

    Do not worry. He will not shake his hand.

  • Chris Donnelly

    Gay Byrne’s previous encounter with Adams proved a disaster for the former and went down as one of the ‘not to be missed’ episodes of the ‘Late,Late.’

    On that occasion (I’m pretty sure it was just after the ’94 ceasefire, sometime in Sept/Oct)Byrne was badly advised and laid on a panel of hostile critics of republicanism (including a cringeworthy performance by the late Hugh Leonard) which backfired as the audience rallied around Adams in one of his best media performances.

    Indeed, I remember that Byrne was even asked about his decision to avoid shaking hands with Adams in the swansong episode of ‘The Late, Late.’

    We’ll see how this one goes tonight.

  • percy

    Mick,
    You can get the audio in the UK of the last episode, Colin Farrell, so I expect in a few days to be able to hear the Adams interview.
    In the words of Bertie Aherne, some of us are just going to have to be patient!

  • anne warren

    Comment on programme:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article6169682.ece

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    From The Sunday Times April 26, 2009

    Gerry Adams cuts out middleman with ‘Protestant’ beliefs
    The Sinn Fein leader confesses his faith is not unquestionably Catholic

    Thanks to:

    http://www.nuzhound.com/goto.php?id=170647

  • Mick Fealty

    Have added that earlier encounter for reference…

  • Ulsters my homeland

    ‘Gerry Adams cuts out middleman with ‘Protestant’ beliefs’

    Paisley’s prayers seem to be working 😀

  • #4, Gerry Adams is presumably the first Protestant to lead Sinn Féin.

  • John O’Connell

    The Sinn Fein leader confesses his faith is not unquestionably Catholic

    The psychology of a man who knows that history will regard him as the Antichrist and wants to lay the boot into the Catholic Church before he goes down. Its his way of saying that the Catholic Church is not really good too.

  • zzzzzzz

    The show was rubbish, and the so called debate was lame. Acomplete waste of time

  • Brian MacAodh

    Was it worth watching??

  • abucs

    Maybe Gerry should have considered using ‘the middleman’ more often. It might have given him a different perspective ?

  • Claire

    please put this up on youtube. I would like to hear what he has to say

  • blinding

    Whether we like it or not Gerry Adams is still good box office and I did say whether we like it or not.

  • dunreavynomore

    An amazing sedative.A love in with Gaybo who had his cheeks rouged way and beyond the call of duty so that the shots moved from ruddy Gay to greybeard Gerry and not an inkling of debate between them but the ‘lurv’ was flowing.

  • Veritas

    The impeccably groomed Gerry (those teeth must have cost a few dollars)was angelic. Is there an election looming by any chance?

    Once again he reiterated his claim that he was never in the ‘RA, despite also claiming to have spent decades “on the run”, staying in different houses. Tell a lie often enough….as Michael Moore would say.

    He talked of his admiration for certain aspects of the Protestant religons and how he can’t understand how similar religons just can’t worship under the common banner of Christian.

    Then he spoke of his regret at the death of so many innocent Christians.

  • Glensman

    I thought it was pretty good, it was billed as more an interview than a debate, and I assume the episodes over the following weeks will follow the same format.

    Having watched it I don’t remember Gerry saying he wasn’t in the IRA, I *think he said that ‘that was his position’.

    It didn’t drag on too long either, worth the watching, especially for those interested in religion.

  • John O’Connell

    Gerry didn’t seem to get it in relation to his insult to sincere Catholics in respect of his taking of the Eucharist but not actually beieving that it was the body and blood of Christ.

    I suppose he, in taking the host, is simply trying to con people into believing that he is a good Catholic and not someone who in his deeds rejects the fundamentals of Christianity.

    Christ is a “great guy” but Gerry rejects “love your enemies” in favour of “an eye for an eye”. The man is so twisted in a deluded fashion, admittedly, as to be worthy of the references to Hitler removed by Mick.

    Hitler was guided by philosophers such as Nietzsche, who rejected Christianity as a gospel for the weak and as in opposition to “nation builders” like Gerry Adams (in his own words).

    Nietzsche lauded The Antichrist (his book title) as the supreme example of a good German. Gerry just lives the role, in a deluded fashion admittedly.

  • DavidD

    Good to see Gerry moving towards protestantism but I think he should steer away from methodists and presbyterians. Everyone knows that it is anglicans who are absolutely guaranteed entry into heaven so why take unnecessary risks.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    I’m happy to see Gerry adopting the Protestant faith. He’ll come to his own spiritual conclusion by talking to God himself, without the instructions of the priest.

    Gerry must have repented privately to God, or else we wouldn’t be in peace today.

    go Gerry, go Gerry!…Keep on the path of life!

  • Lol, with Grisley’s less than savoury history it’s really no wonder he’s so indisposed to confessing his sins. Nevertheless I do think it’s slightly churlish to call him the antichrist…don’t you think his ego is big enough as it is?

  • John O’Connell

    UMH

    Gerry must have repented privately to God, or else we wouldn’t be in peace today.

    When you hear the mess Gerry is making of condemning the dissidents you’ll realise that he hasn’t repented in any way. “It was alright for us because we had support and a mandate, and the conditions were slightly different, but it’s not alright for you.”

    It amounts to the vacuous morality of the delinquent and will get us nowhere.

    But repentance would be a very good idea.

  • Sad Margery

    The meaning of life…

    There is no God but God and Mohammed is his prophet.

    That Jesus guy was a good person but he is not God, just a minor character in Palestine.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]When you hear the mess Gerry is making of condemning the dissidents you’ll realise that he hasn’t repented in any way. “It was alright for us because we had support and a mandate, and the conditions were slightly different, but it’s not alright for you.[/i]”

    Point taken John, but as a Christian you will be aware that the dying thief gained his way into paradise

  • Mustapha Mond

    UMH
    “I’m happy to see Gerry adopting the Protestant faith.”

    But what I read from the article, it seemed he has’nt.
    “…Christ was a mighty man”
    This is not reformed theology, sounds like some sort of eastern gnosticism.

    “…I love the democratic nature of the Presbyterian church,”
    Democratic! This was just cringeworthy.

    Now I feel sorry for him more than ever.

  • John O’Connell

    CO

    I do think it’s slightly churlish to call him the antichrist…don’t you think his ego is big enough as it is?

    Good point. But he is what he is, and history will record that his campaign of violence was a rejection of the ways of Christ and a positive endorsement of Antichristian values.

  • John O’Connell

    UMH

    Point taken John, but as a Christian you will be aware that the dying thief gained his way into paradise

    Point taken. But I’m sure that Gerry will go all the way without repenting. That’s what the Book of Revelation suggests anyway. And I think it highly unlikely that Gerry will admit that his life was absolutely meaningless and positively evil. Surrounded by the people he is surrounded by, he knows that he could get a bullet for that too.

  • joeCanuck

    John,
    What gives you the right to condemn someone as irredeemable? That is hardly a Christian attitude.
    Do you pray for him?

  • John O’Connell

    Joe

    What gives you the right to condemn someone as irredeemable? That is hardly a Christian attitude.

    Where did I say that. I’m only commenting on the betting. I bet he won’t repent and the odds are stacked against it.

    Do you pray for him?

    I pray for everyone.

  • dunreavynomore

    John O’Connell

    “Where did I say that. I’m only commenting on the betting. I bet he won’t repent and the odds are stacked against it.”

    Do you really expect Adams to ‘repent’? I can just imagine him up above saying, ‘Ah, Houl on there Peter, it was different then, we were under attack fron Protestant bigots and had to defend…” He’ll be asking for an apology from God for creating the British empire.

  • Mayoman

    DNM: he’d have a right to! 😉

  • John O’Connell

    DNM

    He’ll be asking for an apology from God for creating the British empire.

    Oh the irony. You seemed to have missed the point of the Adam in Gerry Adams’ name. The message is that the beast is the first man who sets about forming his own EMPIRE in defiance of God. Adam is the founder of Israel and Jesus is crucified for challenging the Jewish national interests in favour of a universality of mankind without chosen peoples.

    Gerry’s real sin is believing actively in an Irish empire despite the centuries of oppression the Irish have suffered at the hands of the British empire. As with much of Gerry Adams tendencies, it is learned stupidity.

  • Sad Margery

    There is no God but God and Mohammed is his messenger.

  • Brian MacAodh

    John

    If Gerry Adams were to die tomorrow, what would you do with your life?

  • Mick Fealty

    Did ANYONE on this thread actually watch the programme?

  • HeadTheBall

    “…anglicans…are absolutely guaranteed entry into heaven…”

    Errm, just like to put in a word for us Baptists – we’ve got a block booking (a few seats still available…).

  • John O’Connell

    If Gerry Adams were to die tomorrow, what would you do with your life?

    Celebrate.

    Did ANYONE on this thread actually watch the programme?

    Strange post when you deleted my review and others.

  • poppy

    john- what is wrong with believing in a irish empire. doesnt ireland deserve the right to have it own gov. language,etc? to have it’s own ’empire’?

  • Greasy Pole

    Before you can have an Empire, don’t you need an Emperor and have to invade other countries?
    Who do you suggest for the former?
    For the latter, I’d recommend starting with Lichenstein. You could do it with a charter plane fully of well trained troops and they’d never see it coming. You’d just have to worry about the Swiss selling watches.

  • dunreavynomore

    He’ll be asking for an apology from God for creating the British empire.

    Oh the irony. You seemed to have missed the point of the Adam in Gerry Adams’ name. The message is that the beast is the first man who sets about forming his own EMPIRE in defiance of God. Adam is the founder of Israel and Jesus is crucified for challenging the Jewish national interests in favour of a universality of mankind without chosen peoples.

    Gerry’s real sin is believing actively in an Irish empire despite the centuries of oppression the Irish have suffered at the hands of the British empire. As with much of Gerry Adams tendencies, it is learned stupidity.

    Posted by John O’Connell on Apr 28, 2009 @ 12:04 AM

    Thanks be to somethinmg that I am not god for i’d go daft listening to the lot of yeh going on about your old gods, especialy you John whatever your number is. 81 is a good prime number, john.

  • dunreavynomore

    Who will be the first to tell me that it’s not prime?

  • Ian Hibern

    I did not watch the programme and did not comment but then I did comment that is and not watch the programme.

  • John O’Connell

    poppy

    john- what is wrong with believing in a irish empire. doesnt ireland deserve the right to have it own gov. language,etc? to have it’s own ‘empire’?

    You’re trying to define a caring female emasculated nation as a proud masculine nation.

    Christianity is about growing the female emsculated nations who have been wisened by the experience of the violence and oppression of the proud masculine nations. In other words it would be profoundly stupid for Ireland to embrace what it knows is Antichristian. Have we no compassion for those who would have to be walked over on the road to your ego trip?

  • John O’Connell

    Dunreavynomore

    Answer post 6 and stop ranting.

  • Greasy Pole

    Excuse my ignorance but is Adam spelled the same in Hebrew? What about Gerry? Is it a Hebrew name too? Does numerology only work in English? Does Adam’s name still come out as 666 in its Gaelige version?

  • Brian MacAodh

    Irish empire?? What are you talking about

    In 100 years Ireland won’t be “christian” anyway, all your theories are full of it

  • eager beaver

    I’m going to University this coming Autumn. I’m pretty sure I’m going to be accepted into Cambridge since I always score in the high 90s in Mathematics and Physics.
    I’m really looking forward to studying under Stephen Hawking; I sure hope he gets better.
    But I have a question. Does Cambridge Mathematics Department have a course in numerology? I’d like to become an expert like my Slugger hero. But when I called them, three times in fact, and asked, the people who answered just laughed their heads off. Wish they would tell me the jokes too.

  • John O’Connell

    I’m going to be accepted into Cambridge

    It seems that the boys are getting desperate.

    Greasy Pole

    It seems that the numerology only works in English, the language that we’re using (you might have noticed).

    Brian

    In ten years we will be asking those who are not Christian to raise their hands and few will, such will the transformation of this country be after Gerry.

    In case Mick’s watching, it was a very disappointing interview demonstrating a very shallow Gerry Adams in comparison to Colin Farrell last Sunday.

  • Zu Chin

    666
    剛剛在英國?什麼負載屎。