Six Nations kicks off

Earlier today England were less than impressive at home to Italy but were still comfortable winners by 36-11. For Ireland’s opening game in the 6 Nations against France RTÉ’s Brendan Cole had predicted a perhaps optimistic 20-10 final scoreline. At the end of the first half France had already racked up all of those predicted 10 points. But thanks to a great try by Heaslip on 34 minutes Ireland were just ahead by 13-10. France are far from out of this one. Update Second half under way. 3min in BOD scores! 49min. Ireland give the ball away and Medard scores. 53min. And a drop goal. 66min. Solid work by the forwards results in a try for D’Arcy. 76min. Penalty for France. 78min. And for Ireland. Final Score Ireland 30 – France 21. Confident performance by Ireland. Closed out the game well at the end against tough opponents. Adds Eddie Butler on the lessons from day one – “So the message seems to be: advance with caution, make changes advisedly.” More On Sunday, despite a loss of focus in the 2nd half, Wales were convincing victors against Scotland at Murrayfield 13 – 26.

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  • percy

    20:10 Ireland 45:45 Brian O’Driscoll you beauty

  • percy

    nerve-wreaking stuff, great game though 20:18 IRE

  • percy

    27:18 IRE got the rosary out here peteb 😉

  • percy

    much better defending from the Irish all round, and some creative play helped.
    French backs were excellent, but when Ireland stopped kicking it to them, winning chances increased.
    An Old Irish side vs a New French one, and little mistakes and penalty give-aways ensured a deserved win for Ireland.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    This was the big one for Ireland, even surpassing beating our traditional bestest friends – England. We needed this badly having had no luck agianst the feckers for years and particulalrly after losing so cruelly to them last time out at Croker.

    France were excellent even with many of their top players not included and they will probably turn over Wales setting up hope fully a decider in for us in Wales – and depending on how other results go we might be able to have a slip up ourselves before then.

    Thought Drizza Sshould have had man of the match and he has silenced his critics, including me, who thought his best days are gone. On this form he will a cert to start for the Lions nad if Ireland win the 6N he will probably be captain.

    SuperFantasic Padz

  • Brian Walker

    Thank God Ireland didn’t crack this time in the face of attacks by the French cavalry. Prospects v Wales? Ahhh!!

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Negative Points

    Irelands kicking was too long and could have cost them the match.

    Tommy Bowe’s decision not to take a quick line out when he had loads of time was very poor.

    D. Wallace and Ferris didnt get out of the trenches.

    P. Wallace, his first pass was a shocker, probably wont make into starting line up against Italy.

  • blinding

    It was bloody marvelous

  • young newt

    Why is the team called Ireland?-There’s no such country.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    If you check out the GFA (Norn Iron’s Constitution) it recoginses the right of the Irish people North and South to determine their constitutional future – if we can do that we can have a Rugby team.

    Techically Wales ans Scotland are not countries – are you in avour of a name change there as well?

  • Jimmy Sands

    Great game. Kearney played a blinder and Heaslip was an absolute star. Could this be the year?

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    Just back from the game. Not sure what you boys were watching but to be honest I was less than impressed by our performance. Yes, the result is outstanding but quite how we managed to accumulate those points I’ll never know…

    Our kicking game was a total shambles and a half decent french side would have slaughtered us on the counter. In fairness, our cover defence did well and we scrambled back on a few occasions but they really should have finished us off on a couple more occasions. We must be one of the most negative nations in world rugby, kick, kick ,kick – total tripe. Another duff box kick from o’leary and I would have cried into my pint.

    On the plus side, there was a huge performance by heaslip – absolutely outstanding in every area of his game. POC and BOD stood up but apart from that I was generally unimpressed. Some of kearny’s kicking 1st half was abysmal. With regards to the Ulstermen, I was a tad disapointed. Ferris was solid but shyed away from taking responsibility. Early days for the big man though and I expect to grow throughout the championship. As we were more concerned with kicking the ball, PW didn’t have much of an opportunity and struggled to have any impact on the game. Best was Mr Reliable as always.

    Italy, Scotland and England are all a complete shambles and shouldn’t cause us too many problems. Wales should beat us by 10-15 points but if it’s a title decider then it will be a high pressure game. In which case, the experience of the Munster guys may see us through. But if we do win the 6 nations, I think it will say more about the standard of northern hemisphere rugby, rather than how good a team ireland are. Average at best.

    At 75k, croker had a few empty seats so maybe a sign that prices are getting a tad high?

  • future’s bright – maybe a few Corkonians who could have filled said seats were busy marching down the Grand Parade in support of those the GAA Hierarchy usually leech off as opposed to those they are leeching off due to temporary homelessness.

  • PUP

    I enjoyed the game. I don’t think we were great but against a talented if unpredictable french side I will take any kind of victory.

    We have been lucky to get France and England at home and with a defeat already under their belts the French will have to really play against Wales and England – which can only be good for Ireland.

    Our game against Wales will the real test.

    Disappointed I turned down some tickets in favour of an important football game which got snowed off!!

  • LURIG

    I would concur with a lot of that orange. This preoccupation with kicking possession away that Ireland has, indeed in any sport, is criminal. The French love this type of game where they can run at you and cut you open from all angles if you let them. However in the second half when the Irish started to use the head and play their own game where they ground the French down it paid dividends. To be fair when Ireland did hold on to the ball they used it wisely too and played some lovely expansive rugby. Declan Kidney is more prepared to use the bench when we need it as opposed to Eddie O’Sullivan who was too loyal to players who were not performing. The criticism that BOD took in the media during the week did him no harm as he played his best game in an Irish shirt in a few years. Good to see the Ulster players have solid games too. Yes in the first half we were very lucky to go in 3 points up but it’s looking good so far and we really needed to beat the French for the overall health of Irish rugby.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    I agree kicking was a shambles – Kidney should ate them alive in video room. But talent and holding our nerve saw us through – we only had about 4 chances and we only gave away a few penalties. Not sure about Wales – potentially weak up front and oversold by their management and supporters – they will probably lose to France. It may well come down to last weekend with us, France and Wales in the mix.

  • Dewi

    I was impressed = I like that O’leary scrum half and “Jamie” (what a stupid name for an Irish no 8!!) was superb. O’Driscoll’s try rolled back the years also – wonderful. You are spoilt for choice at full back as well.

    “Not sure about Wales – potentially weak up front and oversold by their management and supporters”

    Sammy – it’s a bit early to start your propoganda war !!

    O flower of Scotland….

  • Dewi

    Oh and England cricket managed 15 more points than their Rugby team……

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    £10 bet – winnings to slugger on who finishes highest in 6N between Ireland and Wales?

    Dont know why Thom Evan not playing for Scotland looks the quickect players in theses parts – perhaps injured?

    Was it 2 years ago Scotland Wales was an absolute shocker – dont think there were any tries and wasnt last years game in Kaydiff also dreadful?

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    ” England cricket ”

    Is it not the England and Wales cricket team?

    Any funny Princes turning up for todays game to cheer on Wales?

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    oh dear, sammy and his bets again… Can I place the bet after the wales game?

  • Dewi

    £10 agreed. You and your Princes…Scotland selection very strange – not only Evans but I really can’t understand Paterson being left out. Not only a fantastic kicker but an excellent player.
    Last year in Cardiff was a little tight at times and Shane scored a pretty dodgy foot in touch try. Crucial game for Mike Phillips at Murrayfield although after yesterday your boy might be in with a Lions shout at scrum half.

  • Ann

    Where oh where is the posting from a sluggerite demanding that they be given a cut price ticket because they did not any of their money going to the “CGA”?

    Everyone knows people come here to read MOPE postings!

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    You are going for Wales to finish above Ireland if they beat Scotland – I’ll run with that. A tenner?

    There are some striking similarites in the characteristics of the 6N teams and the Norn Iron Political Parties as they prepare for the other Euro competition.

    Wales:DUP – Annoying feckers – it is theirs to lose through over-confidence.
    Ireland: SF – manouevre themselves into a good position but cant take the pressure.
    TUV: France – Maverick, great individual talent, unpredictable, their own worst enemy.
    England: UU – Overweight and plagued by their own lofty propaganda, tired – surely their best days behind them.
    SDLP: Scotland – led by an old-school head coach who doesnt believe his own rhetoric.
    Alliance: Italy – Sympathy votes and everybodys favorites 2nd team wont win them antything.

  • Dewi
  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Why is the team called Ireland?-There’s no such country”

    young newt –
    Oh indeed, especially when the Ireland rugby team is very unique in that it hasn’t got an agreed National Flag or Anthem.

    How about an NI rugby team then Newt, like what the NI sports Minister Greg Campbell once suggested.

    BTW, great win for “Ireland” yesterday at Croke Park. We are off to a great start!

  • dewi

    Wonderful anthems.

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    lol, sammy, i used to think u were a bollix but ur actually a funny guy – nice post. after 10 mins, I’m more than confident that wales will retain the 6 nations and a possible grand slam to boot.

  • dewi

    Wonderful forward display but now we are messing about…

  • young newt

    ‘How about an NI rugby team then Newt, like what the NI sports Minister Greg Campbell once suggested’

    Yes, that’ll do nicely, as a matter of fact.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Unprofessional finish by Wales – points (differences) can wins prizes and Wales, thankfully, squandered a chance to build theirs up.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Yes, that’ll do nicely, as a matter of fact.”

    But you’ll just have to keep on supporting England or Scotland then till that day comes about Newt!

  • young newt

    Greg, your squalid triumphalist glee at the existing status quo is a perfect example of why Ulster Protestants are alienated from the ‘Ireland'(sic)team.

  • Dewi

    We should have won that 300 to nil. No worries though it’s good to give the other teams a chance….

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    Byrne’s defence was poor for Scots try and Patterson’s near try – must be behind Kearney for Lions full back at moment?

  • Dewi

    Sammy he was concussed! And still the best full back in the world…I tell you I was so impressed – we are getting there – strange to see so many head to head collisions in a a game – and Martyn Williams just didn’t notice his…..Kearney was good – O Leary though impressed me most.

  • Tosh Spice

    Dewi,what about your soccer team? World Cup Qualifier Wednesday night?You interested?

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    O leary? u having a laugh dewi – maybe you got concussed as well…

    Byrne is light years ahead of any FB in the british isles. That 12 for wales was sensational – how many caps does he have? I agree with Sammy though – wales should have pushed much harder in the last 20 mins. I expect france, wales and ireland to all lose 1 match this championship. In such a scenario, points differential will decide the championship.

    Overall, wales looked very very impressive and played some beautiful rugby against a feisty scots side.

  • Dewi

    tfbtfo – who are we going to lose to?
    Tosh – who are we playing?

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Greg, your squalid triumphalist glee at the existing status quo is a perfect example of why Ulster Protestants are alienated from the ‘Ireland’(sic)team.”

    Na Newt, no squalid triumphalist glee here. But, sure the likes of yourself, being a British citizen, has no wish whatsoever to partake with the rest of the people on the island in any way, (perish the thought sez you) even whether it be with something as innocuous as sport etc.. never mind the politics. Easier for you to sit lonely on the fence and hurl insults at the rest of us! Probably better that you’d have a team all for yourself, as I suggested! And sure you agreed too so whats your problem?

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    Wales to lose to France – Wales will then need to (hopefully) beat Ireland.

    Wales weaknesses are the lineout, usettled halfbacks and of course over-confidence. Perhaps question mark over defence.

    re. O’Leary – as per the comments from my newest bestest friend – the Orange chap – his kicking could have cost Ireland the game but I think he is potentially great player and the most versatile player in the championship can play anywhere in backline and kick goals – thanks no doubt to his excellent GAA background.

  • Dewi

    Sammy – I think we’ll slaughter France – forwards today (without Ryan) were wonderful. You are right about the lineout but unsettled halfbacks? as we have the best four halfbacks in the world I’m not to bothered!

  • young newt

    Greg,
    Stop your knee-jerk MOPEry? Where have I ‘hurled insults’? As for lonely, there are over a million British citizens in Northern Ireland! How could I join in support of the same team as you when you demonstrate such disdain and contempt for the unionist people on the island?

    These traits that you exhibit are ao unerringly similar to those of the hardline Provos.At least they are open in their views whereas you think that you are so superior even though you are exactly the same-the lowest common denominator and all that.

  • Dewi

    young newt – cut the crap and just support Wales – you know it makes sense!

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    France – wales is a 50-50 as far as I am concerned. I think home advantage may be enough for france to sneek it though. Not sure if you have the best 4 halfbacks in the world dewi. Certainly you have the most strength and depth in those positions but whether they are indivisually the best players is a bit of a joke to be frank. Your forwards can more that hold their own. The days of sticking the ball up your jumper and trundling half way down the paddock are long gone. Now you need ball carriers, good hands and agressive running by the big men and this is what wales have in bucket loads.
    That said, Ireland have 2 warm up games before they take on the holders for the championship so plenty of time to build confidence and decide what is our best starting 15.

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    Sammy
    Would SF not be represented by England?
    – arrogant and self-serving
    – used to rely on hardmen but since the rules have changed these hardmen find it hard to move on with the modern game
    – their main man 6 years ago is lost in the wilderness
    – everyone hates them apart from themselves

    should I go on??? 🙂

  • young newt

    Well said! ‘the future’s…’

  • dewi

    Tfbtfo – choose a smaller name mun it’s hard work on the hand held.Strange though I was worried this morning – Scotland not a bad team (beat Argentina away in the summer). Now I think we’ll win the Grand Slam in some comfort…(Famous last words). My Lions test team:

    Byrne
    Williams
    O’Driscoll
    Henson
    Bowe
    Jones
    Phillips
    Wallace
    Jones
    Williams
    O’Connell
    Wyn Jones
    Jenkins
    Some token Scottish hooker
    Sheridan

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    “Sammy – I think we’ll slaughter France – forwards today (without Ryan) were wonderful”

    I presume there has been pop taken? The last time you played in France was it not against Fiji ? and a couple of weeks before France beat NZ.
    Crazy, crazy Taff Talk. Love it.

    Orangey Chap,

    England as SF with Johnno as Grizzly – I’m afraid I cannot countenance such an outrageous suggestion.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    Only 7 Ospreys? Surely some mistake ? these 7 plus the rest of the crew will be getting their arses kicked at Thomond park a few weeks before they get on the plane to SA – if you are right – how embarassing will that be for the Lions?

  • dewi

    Sammy – I’m loath to put any more money on it (me and thee are the worse gamblers in the world – we take the downside and Slugger the upside) but Wales ain’t going to lose to anyone this year.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Greg,
    Stop your knee-jerk MOPEry? Where have I ‘hurled insults’? As for lonely, there are over a million British citizens in Northern Ireland! How could I join in support of the same team as you when you demonstrate such disdain and contempt for the unionist people on the island?

    These traits that you exhibit are ao unerringly similar to those of the hardline Provos. At least they are open in their views whereas you think that you are so superior even though you are exactly the same-the lowest common denominator and all that.”

    Oh dear Newt, it appears that I have offended your very sensitive self.
    I merely mooted a rugby team for NI, which your NI sports minister suggested and you initially agreed. I don’t see that as insulting the Unionist population of NI. But you then call this “squalid triumphalist glee” on my behalf and that’s “why Ulster Protestants are alienated from the Ireland team.”
    Afterall, you did say there is no such “country” as Ireland. BTW, in so doing, with your cheap remark you insulted the Irish team that beat the French yesterday and the thousands of Irish supporters.
    Then you go off on the irratic rant above with wild accusations and usual cliches of “mopery” etc… Kinda paranoia at work Newt?
    So then, if I were to espouse the All-Ireland rugby team you’d disagree and if I espouse a seperate NI team you still disagree, as you think it’s insulting! Oh dear, you really have’nt thought anything out very well.

    Support Wales then, as Dewi said!

    (BTW, there are about 800,000 folk in NI who class themselves as British citizens, not “over a million”)

  • young newt

    Greg, Your squalid triumphalist glee was manifested by your tawdry remark that unionists would have to support either England or Scotland because a Northern Ireland rugby team would not be happening.
    Your puerile efforts at suggesting inconsistency on my position is not borne out by my earlier posts.
    However never let the facts get in the way of a good Mope, eh?
    In regard to your asertion that there are 800,000 British people in NI, how do you know? Evidently you arriving at this figure by a sectarian head-count which displays your own innate in-built sectarianism? Says it all, really…

  • delly

    Young Newt,

    Can you not just relax , and revel in the tremendous victory that occurred at the weekend i.e. beating the french for the first time since 2003 and scoring three tries against them for the first time in 100 years!!!

    All achieved by Ulster, Munster, & Leinster men of both Irish and British citizenship playing out of their skins.

  • Neil

    I don’t see why Wales would be over confident. International rugby sides tend to go off the boil fairly quickly, and the results table tends to have a different top dog fairly regularly. Wales won last year, but the two years before they landed in second last.

    Scotland were disastrously poor in my opinion, they did ok, just, in the final twenty minutes of the game, and Wales were solid but not fantastic, IMHO they should have been much further ahead on points difference.

    I though Ireland also played a solid game, and agree with the consensus that if they could hold onto the ball instead of handing possession over at every opportunity they would be a force to be reckoned with.

    So I reckon Wales Ireland should be a cracker, possibly the decider. England and Scotland were shambolic and should be hoping to limit their embarrasment, much like Ireland last year.

    On an aside the BBC commentary is beyond a joke. It’s like a parody of itself, slapping the backs off each other for the sterling job they did beating Italy. Then flick over to RTE to hear the pundits talking about how the English should be crying in their beer as every point they had came from an Italian mistake, and they hadn’t created a thing. To my mind the RTE commentary was the more accurate, though I might be a touch biased…

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Greg, Your squalid triumphalist glee was manifested by your tawdry remark that unionists would have to support either England or Scotland because a Northern Ireland rugby team would not be happening.”

    Newton, Emmmmm….a lot of Unionist folk support either England or Scotland (rather than Ireland) as there is no NI rugby team! Many Unionist folk have expressed no love for the Irish rugby team here on Slugger over the years.
    It appears that your new here to Slugger and very young too as your name implies, Young Newt!

    “In regard to your asertion that there are 800,000 British people in NI, how do you know? Evidently you arriving at this figure by a sectarian head-count which displays your own innate in-built sectarianism?”

    Census figures Newt!
    It can be a reliable source to deduce information.

  • Dewi

    “England and Scotland were shambolic and should be hoping to limit their embarrasment, much like Ireland last year.”

    I don’t think Scotland were shambolic at all. I think they’ll compete in all their remaining games.

  • Dewi

    “scoring three tries against them for the first time in 100 years!!!”
    Four tries and still lost in 2006..

  • delly

    Apologies Dewi , spot on.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi

    re. “don’t think Scotland were shambolic at all. I think they’ll compete in all their remaining games.”

    I saw that comment and something told me it might be you – the jury must be out on how good Wales were and how bad Scotland were until we see how things unfold.

    A sobering thought for you for next week is that Wales were outplayed by England last year for about 50 minutes – although I expect Wales to win I’m not sure Englands big grunters wont cause them a few problems.

    I guess the bookies will give England a five point start.

  • Dewi

    England will be like lambs to the slaughter Sammy…..I’d give them a fifteen point start..

  • The bookies are giving England an eight point start.

    Apparently the poor wee English lammy wammies were scared by all the cheering and Twickers on Saturday, and that’s why they were shit. No, I’m not making that up. I’ve never had so little respect of an England side. Their morale is rock bottom, all their good players except for Easter and Cueto are injured, and I think us, the French and the Welsh will all rip them apart. Italy in Rome and Scotland in Murrayfield will both be tougher tests.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    “England will be like lambs to the slaughter Sammy”

    I thougt you boyz treated woolybacks rather differently.

    Sammy eile,

    The guy in the Torygraph said about Armitage (the back row one making his debut) that he had made the “step down to international level”. Just about sums up their performance. But they have so many players to pick from they should not be underestimated.

    And they may resemble a winded Hippo – but just like said beast appearances can be deceptive and they will be very dangerous.

  • Dewi

    I have a theory about Johnson and England:

    1) THey are not bothered about the Six Nations and are focussed on the next World Cup.

    2) The Lions tour detracts from preparation for the World Cup….and people can get hurt badly in SA (Barry John, Rob Howley etc…)

    Thus they don’t want many (any) players travelling….Am I a little paranoid??

  • Yup, you’re paranoid D. And giving far too much credit to the lamentable management at Twickers (both coaching staff and blazerati).

    How has the country with the world’s biggest rugby playing population ended up with such a shit national team, 5 years after being capable of some of the most breathtaking rugby ever seen? (I know, it makes me sick remembering it too, but it’s still true…)

    Basically, the GP is shit, full of overpaid, ageing SH players who can’t hack it in the Super 14 any more playing an utterly tedious style of 10 man rugby that is a bigger throwback to the 70s than Colin Charvis’ haircut. But English people believe the media driven hype that it’s actually the pinnacle of European rugby. So young, talented English players (and English junior rugby is still very good) get all the initiative and dynamism coached and/or bored out of them. But because the like of Leicester can stay close to the Munsters and Tolouses of this world before losing to them in the Heineken Cup, the English delude themselves that the quality of play in their league is as good as the French and Celtic ones.

    The problem is that the step in pace up to international level from the GP is higher than from the Magners League or the Top 14 and way higher than for Super 14. Andy Goode can hoof the ball to some geriatric Fijian in the GP every week without fear, but when he does that to Byrne or Fitzgerald, or worse yet Rokocoko or Habana, then the English get burned. And then they defenestrate their coach. Brian Ashton is a great coach. The fact he didn’t work for England was a problem with England, not a problem with Ashton.

    Ah well, at least it allows us to laugh at the whingeing poms and their MOPEry for a few more years.

  • Dewi

    “Andy Goode can hoof the ball to some geriatric Fijian in the GP every week without fear”

    Lol Sammy – bit of a big lob from Brive !!! Point well made – I still think there’s work to be done on the Celtic League – too many noshows..

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    if they finish last but 1 or last but 2 in next two 6Ns he will be on his bike.

    Money is a factor and Twickers had some difficulty selling out this year – defeats will make this more difficult – it will jolly well not be acceptable.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Sammy,

    “Basically, the GP is shit, full of overpaid, ageing SH players who can’t hack it in the Super 14 any more ”

    This is a Celtic myth in my opinion – London Irish, Harlequins and Bath have played ome fantastic rugby with many excellent young English players.

    Nobody gives a flying feck about winning the Magners and Munster are the only Celtic team to do anything in last 5 years.

    Andy Goode fyi plays in the French league.

  • the future’s bright the future’s orange

    Having been to twickers, I’d say they make more from corperates hospitality than any other nation in the world – never seen anything like it – acres of land devoted to it! Can;t see them ever being short of a bob or 2.
    The number of games english players play is reflected in their injury list. When was the last time Ireland had more than 1-2 injuries? If BOD plays 20 games for leinster he’s had a tough season. Ireland really protect their high profile stars.
    Wales are so much better because they’ve had some excellent Kiwi coaches some in and an excellent englisg defensive coach too… The way they approach the game is akin to the all blacks. Ball in hand, offload, go to the touchline, punch up with a couple of runners then spread wide. breathtaking stuff at times and their execution and precision is outstanding. Scotland are attempting that type of game but lack the precision. Ireland still play primarily with the boot, squeezing points by applying pressure. A lot to be said for it but not great to watch.

  • London Irish, Harlequins and Bath have played ome fantastic rugby with many excellent young English players.

    Against other English sides. And the young players fall to bits when they don a white jersey.

  • Ann

    Did the only Catholic on the Ulster Rugby schoolboys team complain because he did not know the words to the sash?

    NO! Quite your MOPing. The IRFU is in charge of the Ireland Rugby Union Football team end of story!

  • Dewi

    Scolari for next England coach?….or Portsmouth maybe…..

  • dewi

    Noboby really screaming out for the Lions No 2 spot. A bit of a weakness as lineout will be critical. Bring back Keith Wood?

  • young newt

    Greg:- ‘It appears that your new here to Slugger and very young too as your name implies, Young Newt’

    Evidently you don’t know your arse from your elbow, Sherlock.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Sammy M,

    “London Irish, Harlequins and Bath have played ome fantastic rugby with many excellent young English players. Against other English sides. And the young players fall to bits when they don a white jersey. ”

    The old Celtic chestnut of the Guinness Premiership being no good is rolled out every year but does not stand analyis as the English clubs record in the HC indicates – Bath, Harelequins, Sale and Leicester all finished above top French Teams in the HC pool stages. If it wasnt for Munster the Magenrs/Celtic league record of the last 5 years would be shocking.

    And just in case you didnt notice England got to the final of the World Cup when Wales were having their arses deservedly kicked by Fiji and Ireland were really, really lucky to beat the mighty Georgia.

    Tip – never underestimate the enemy.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Young Newt

    The master of uber cliched language!

  • And just in case you didnt notice England got to the final of the World Cup

    That was 16 months ago and England have gone backwards – dramatically backwards – since then. Sacking Ashton, who got them to the WC final when no-one else gave them a chance – was a sign that the Twickers establishment haven’t even identified the right problems.

  • the future’s bright the future’s orange

    england got to the RWC final by playing a very very simple game, which is ideal in high pressure scenarios. Crap to watch but it a RWC semi final, it’s hard to play expansive, free flowing rugby – as NZ can testify.
    Indeed, with games won and lost by defence alone these days there is a lot to be said for being patient, maintaining discipline and waiting for chances to come along. (basically, what ireland did on saturday)

  • Indeed. And it’s not so bad if you take the chances with a bit of verve and panache (as Ireland did on Saturday).

    I’m still waiting for us to press the self-destruct button, but also hoping Declan will be a winner as much as Eddie was a choker.

  • Dewi

    “Indeed, with games won and lost by defence alone these days there is a lot to be said for being patient, maintaining discipline and waiting for chances to come along.”

    Yeah – if you want to following the Saxon model of life….but where’s the romance??

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    fek romance, it’s all about winning dewi. that said, as far as the 6 nations goes, I expect that wales can combine the 2!
    Can;t wait to get sammy’s money!

  • young newt

    Greg,
    The master of sanctimonious triumphalism

  • Dewi

    fbbfbo – Slugger’s the only winner – Mick is rubbing his hands…..

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi, Ulstery Orangey Type Person,

    are both of confirming that you bet £10 that the jumped-up, overblown, lets-believe-our-own-spin, diminutive-Taff-Types, with Royal-ensignia-on-their-shirts, and supported-by funny-Prince-types,
    coached by some useless NZ kecker who couldnt get into the All Blacks 2nd team and couldn’t cut it with Ireland and some Jimmy-Saville-look-alike are going to finish above the mighty Padz – and that the winnings will go to Slugger?

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    correction “Jimmy-Saville-look-alike” should have read “Jimmy-Saville-sound-alike” and “kecker” should have read “fecker” … and forgot to include the word Principality as it annoys the feck out of Dewi.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “sanctimonious triumphalism”

    Nope..there’s no evidence of that at all in what I said!

    You MOPE-ing now Newt?

    Ye gonna get angry?

    Relax …take deep breaths now!

    🙂

  • Dewi

    @9&10;- Make it £20 if you wish….

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    Oh Newt, I meant to add that I’ll be very kind and let you have the very last word on the issues you have. So please, go ahead and be my very good guest and demonstrate that very quick wittedness and rather amiable discourse of yours again!

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    as long as you match all our bets sammy?

    ‘are both of confirming that you bet £10 that the jumped-up, overblown, lets-believe-our-own-spin,’

    haven’t heard much spin from the wales camp to be honest.

    ‘diminutive-Taff-Types,’

    hardly!

    ‘with Royal-ensignia-on-their-shirts, and supported-by funny-Prince-types, ‘

    the royal seal of approval – what more would I want 🙂

    ‘coached by some useless NZ kecker who couldnt get into the All Blacks 2nd team’

    since when did coaches have to be good players in any sport? uselss NZ? does such a term exist?

    ‘and couldn’t cut it with Ireland and some Jimmy-Saville-look-‘

    Who has cut it with ireland sammy? Back in his day, he had crap players and decent oppostion. EOS had good players and shite opposition and still couldn;t win bugger all. And we’ll not talk about RWC…

    ‘alike are going to finish above the mighty Padz – and that the winnings will go to Slugger? ‘

    you may start writing your chequers now lad.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Orange

    “haven’t heard much spin from the wales camp to be honest.”

    Try the Western Mail for the spin extordinaire

    ‘diminutive-Taff-Types,’

    still question marks over their pack ? How will they fare against the undiminutive Enlgezs?

    “since when did coaches have to be good players in any sport? uselss NZ? does such a term exist? ”

    re. useless NZ Coaches: the country with easily the best players – for them not to have have won the RWC for so long – must be the coaches? You only have to look at the 2 uselsss NZ feckers who were in charge in Wales before present incumbent. All spin and no substance.

    “Who has cut it with ireland sammy? Back in his day, he had crap players and decent oppostion. EOS had good players and shite opposition and still couldn;t win bugger all. ”

    re. EOS v Wazza – there was an immediate improvement when Wazza departed. Ireland’s record in 6N 5N with EOS was very good – best in our History.

  • Dewi

    WM quite cool today Sammy johnson says “We’ll win ugly” on page 1 – “Upbeat Johnson thows down the gauntlet” on back page.

    “Ireland’s record in 6N 5N with EOS was very good – best in our History.”
    1948 – 1951 not bad Sammy (at least you won something!!!)

  • Dewi

    Shane out – changes things a bit….Wales will have to work hard close to breakdown – Ryan J and Andy P on the case I hope…..

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    is that the sound of air being slowly released from the baloon?