Hearts and Minds: In which Martin emerges serenely from the storm (what storm?)…


This is more for the record than a matter of news. It’s Martin McGuinness’ interview with Noel Thompson on last Thursday’s Hearts and Minds… It’s much calmer and less confrontational than Peter Robinson’s three weeks previously… Not surprising when you think that Martin’s Afrikaner colleagues (in particular Robinson and Jeffrey Donaldson) were riding shotgun for him in the media across the UK and Ireland for the deal that has left the world and his wife scratching their heads… You can catch Part 2 here… (Oh, and the campaign against PPS 14 expects that PPS21 will be broadly in line with proposals made by Arlene Foster in April…)

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    The boy Marty came across all relaxed and statesmanlike and of course all palsy with Robbo. The intesting thing is that he is clearly
    sitting on some very useful information about the fault lines within the DUP. I would guess that Dodsy (the dog that barked but didnt bite) was of one of those who was obstrusting progress and is now safley on side.

  • ulsterfan

    He comes across as a liberal unionist circa 1970.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    ulsterfan,

    He did set his heart on the GFA (for better or worse) and barring a few morsels for the DUP to chew on – who set themselves against it – thats what he’s got. So I suppose he is entitled to a smile and to say a few kind words about Robbo.

  • Mick Fealty

    Sammy,

    I do admire your tenacity and imaginative approach to politics… But you have to admit there are no better political shotgun outriders than the DUP…

  • Big Maggie

    Sammy

    and of course all palsy

    I hope Marty’s taking medication for it :^)

  • ulsterfan

    Sammy

    You must really be suffering when trying to grasp any comfort from the activities of the SF leadership who are bringing their followers into the bosom of British rule and sovereignty in NI.
    Where now is the dream of UI.
    In ten years they will be part of the Establishment indistinguishable from SDLP ,UU and Alliance.
    A dream alone and regrets for past mistakes is not sufficient sustenance for any political animal.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    UlsterFan, Mick,

    the merits and de-merits of the GFA have been discussed many times, from my own Republican-Lite perspective its a reasonable compromise.

    What is clear is that SF have tried to implement it – namely because they like it and the DUP striven to do the opposite – namely because they do not. The DUP have now admitted that they had to implement the STA fully or face Dublin involvement via Direct Rule.

    Although Robbo and Dodsy now deserve to be Lundified in exactly the same way as they unfairly Lundified Trimble lets all hope that Big Jimbo and the Tuvers do not have the political clout to bring that about.

  • dub

    its curious how everyone from anthony mcintyre to henry mcdonald to ulsterfan and comrade stalin want so desperately to discredit sinn fein.

    SF have stopped being impossibilists and now operate within the realm of what is politically possible… that is really the philosophical change they have made. Because they operate withing the sphere of what is politically possible, they have made many gains. the sdlp now criticise them like the anti-treatyites criticised the treatyites and the tuv criticise the dup… from the sidelines and from a position of, as they say in Dublin, shoulda, coulda, woulda… sf meanwhile are getting their hands dirty and getting on with things in the real world. the dup are doing the same, even though they have been forced there somewhat. sf made their own decisions.

    The DUP thought they would be able to back sf into a corner over policing and ge them into a default situation where the majority unionist rule would magically return. it is clear that they have failed.

    The outomce may be an ni forever and a day with strong economic and cultural ties to both the republic and britain with both traditions equally recognised and validated. there will be 2 irish administrations in ireland, which will cooperate more and more in a globalised world. britain will be an external guarantor power like syria in the lebanon.

    if this is the case, its a very long way from 1969. if a properous ni emerges with a very strong nationalist as well as unionist hue, then some time in the future a united ireland would be feasbile.

    sf in the meantime have a permanent place in power.

    they are entitled to be happy with all that. the begrudgers say a lot more about their own issues than about sf when they interminably whine.

  • “Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams told supporters in the US that he wants to reach an accommodation with unionism, but hit out at what he called its “Afrikaner wing”.”

    Mick, Peter and Jeffrey are already within the ‘accommodation’. I think Gerry was pointing the finger at Jim Allister and those within the DUP who would empathise with Jim. However, you must view Adam’s pejorative language within the context of his audience.

  • runciter

    The DUP have now admitted that they had to implement the STA fully or face Dublin involvement via Direct Rule.

    Whatever that means. What specific commitments have SF actually obtained in writing?

    Are we supposed to assume that SF got a good deal based on the DFM’s body language?

    A little bit of scepticism might be considered reasonable at this point.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    runciter,

    “A little bit of scepticism might be considered reasonable at this point”

    But given that Dodsy now seems to have lost his bark as well as his bite just a little scepticism is probably enough.

  • runciter

    But given that Dodsy now seems to have lost his bark as well as his bite just a little scepticism is probably enough.

    You’re easily impressed.