Republic faces highest jobless total since 1999

Eeek… Looks like the party is over. Not only is Ireland throwing rather large and inconvenient spanner into the EU works, but the unemployment total has risen by a third since the start of the year:

When the figures are adjusted to take account of seasonal employment patterns the number of people signing on for unemployment payments and social welfare credits now stands at 207,300. This is the highest level since January 1999. The figures also show that the numbers on the dole went up by 7,600 during May alone. This was broadly in line with the average monthly rise in unemployment so far this year which was 7,000.

Today’s figures mean that the number of people signing on the dole has gone up by almost a third in just one year. The Live Register total now represents an unemployment rate of 5.4% of the labour force.

  • perry patetic
  • A lot of the southern increase in unemployment is probably due to the slowdown (screeching halt, more like) in the building industry. This may not have hit the north yet, but it will.

    On the other hand, it probably means that those nice IFSC jobs that were promised to Belfast will not be coming. And the IDA will redouble its efforts in the US market, so there will be stiff competition for any FDI-related jobs.

  • percy

    Inflation is up in ROI to 4.7% also.
    Hey maybe we’re seeing a level playing field develop prior to re-unification.

  • perry patetic

    “Hey maybe we’re seeing a level playing field develop prior to re-unification.”

    It’s kind of the south to wait for us to catch up.

  • Well done Ireland! One in the eye for the bloated Irish political establishment, business and trade unions who all begged a Yes for their masters in Brussels. Now watch the will of the people be ignored one more time by the Eurocrats. Great leadership by BIFFO, btw – what a guy. He and Gordon Brown really are a pair.

  • perry patetic

    Are you on the right thread David?

  • The Raven

    We were always the buffer zone between the UK and ROI – I mean that figuratively. Somewhere someone up there was postulating that it was down to the slowdown in building? It *is* already hitting here, with areas in the North West which are mainly in the construction industry shedding peripheral jobs.

    Horseman, there have been very few FDI visits outside of the conference anyway. Indeed, if I get time and go and check INI’s annual report, you’ll find that we’ve been off the beaten track for some time on that.

    So, IIRC, there were some people wailing for job cuts in the public sector. Well for God’s sakes, NOT RIGHT NOW.

  • john burns

    Just saw Gerry being carried shoulder high by his followers in the RDS. Braying and screaming they also included members of that delightful group the Youth Defense League. Strange company for republicians to be keeping to be sure. Bairbre was there too, gazing with adoration at Gerry while Mary Lou as usual simpered.

  • TAFKABO

    Here on the European mainland, most political pundits are expressing widespread displeasure at the Irish, with a lot of politicians claiming they are rather ungrateful consiering the aid they’ve been given by Europe.
    The most commn adjective at the moment is greedy.
    How long before they’re called “spongers” ?

  • Regina Mills

    All the statistics say unemployment is up but when you look at the jobs posted online you have to think its 1999 all over again. 100K, 150K, and 250K jobs all over.

    http://www.realmatch.com
    http://www.simplyhired.com
    http://www.monster.com
    http://www.indeed.com

    Its like how do I land one of these gigs?

  • paul kielty

    John Burns,
    Sorry to disappoint you but that was not Gerry Adams! It was members of the anti-abortion group ‘COIR’.

    Tafkabo,
    If you were capable of sourcing information beyond the right-wing british press, you might be surprised to learn that behind Germany, Ireland is the second highest net contributor to the EEC. In fact, because the fishing grounds known as the ‘Irish box’, which is totally within Irish constitutional waters( the second most important fishing area in the entire EEC). Above and beyond every cent that Ireland has received, Ireland is out of pocket to the tune of 160 billion euros. Are you capable of rational debate or will I start on the VAST contribution of the UK ( ranked 11th), in general or that little northern dependancy in particular??

  • TAFKABO

    Paul.

    I was simply reporting the Vox Pops from mainland Europe, I thought it was interesting to hear.
    My source is TV and radio here in France, where i liven and get a sometimes different perspective.
    Now, if you want to show where I’ve sourced anything from “the right wing british press” then go ahead, or perhaps you need to get your own facts straight before trying to correct others?

    I thought this topic was about the republic in the context of the EEC, but the moment you saw my post you went into kneejerk ussuns Vs themmuns.
    I await the day when Irish people stop using the UK as a benchmark for everything that happens.

  • paul kielty

    Tafkabo,

    I do appologise, please change the phase,’..right wing british press’.., to, ‘..right wing french press..’.

    The days of Irish people, as you put it , using the uk as a benchmark(?)…, if they ever exsisted, are long gone(?).

    Now on the subject of ‘spongers’, coming from someone who lives in France, that is surely too much!!

    France’s net contribution is what exactly??

  • TAFKABO

    Paul, take it up with the French, I’m just reporting that the general consensus seems to be that the Irish are an ungrateful lot.
    I’m sure you could pass on your information about how Irish fish are worth hundreds of billions and see if they are any more conviced by your argument than I was.

  • paul kielty

    Tafkabo,

    So you’re not french……OK!

    So you claim that the…’general consenses seems to be….’.

    Well maybe among your friends mate. Hardly scientific!

    I’d rather pass on the hard economic facts to you for two reasons,

    1/ The french only care about themselves. So much for a grand european community (superstate!!).

    2/ Your provenance is where exactly?

  • BfB

    Taffie.

    ‘Here on the European mainland, most political pundits are’ eurowhiners who will try to slither around the great unwashed stoooopid Irish neanderthals who want to cling to a national identity…
    prats…

  • picador

    Er, didn’t the French say no last time around?
    Er, don’t they make more out of the CAP than anyone else?

  • Different Drummer

    The Phoney Peace Is Over

    After the dramatic news of the Afghanistan break out, the propaganda that WE (Western Civilisation) are winning the war there, is now exposed for the fiction it was.

    Similarly, after the big no vote in republic a new war has broken out between defenders of the Irish public sector and the EU.

    I think it was TAF that observed that pretty soon the Irish will be seen as ‘spongers’ on the European ‘mainland’.

    Maybe, but besides the name calling of the Irish – which goes on all time, the recession will have bitten that much harder at the time of another vote re-run. By which time even less Irish voters will believe that the new rights of market over the rights of the ordinary worker will keep the new economic wolf from the door.

    For that reason I don’t think it will be possible for the pro-Lisbon treaty parties to re-run the debate and win it on the same argument they did last time (don’t throw our prosperity away). For the simple reason things will be worse economically in the future.

    Now it is a mote point if the pro-Lisbon treaty parties go to Brussels to sort out a new deal/special aid package to help spur a new yes campaign. For that will open a whole new can of worms for Brussels:

    ‘The Irish have got more concessions to help them with their economy what’s in it for us.’ Will be the new cry of hard pressed voters in Ex-EU Ireland.

    Safe to say it is going to impossible to persuade each foreign minister’s in the queue that would quickly form outside the commissioners’ office, that they have no right to similar concessions.

    This way to New Deal Europe.

    Either that or it is going to be New Dole Europe.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Well done Ireland!”

    Thanks for the compliment David!

    BTW we are entitled to say ‘NO’ too. Sure tis a favourite word up north as well.

    Gas to see on the Irish news last night members of the UK Independance Party celebrating by having a pissing up in an Irish bar in Brussels.

    I just hope that anti European Union cranks and detractors will not view Ireland as an Achilles heel as such and will be jumping on the bandwagon in future, urging a NO vote in any future referenda.

    Gas to witness the glee of some commentators here at the thoughts of Ireland’s economy possibly ‘going down the tubes’. Practically, squeezing themselves at the thoughts. BTW, sorry but tis a global phenomena at the moment, and sure we have plenty put by for a rainy day and to weather any storm.

  • TAFKABO

    So you claim that the…’general consenses seems to be….’.

    Well maybe among your friends mate. Hardly scientific!

    Er…I said that I was getting this from the Vox Pops on the media, you responded by slagging off the British press, then when I corrected you you’ve changed it to a bunch of my mates.

    Anyway, since you’re such a stickler for sources and scientific credentials, care to tell us the sources for your claim that the Irish are 110 billion out of pocket due to the EEC?

  • BfB

    The Phoney Peace Is Over

    Ha..
    When the real adults have their say, useful idiots such as yourself can only fall back on your indoctrinated mantra…..
    You really do look the fool.
    You’re the only phoney in that post.
    Grow some balls and read some non-fiction.
    Or not….

  • Different Drummer

    Don’t know what your on about.

    And I doubt you could tell me anyway.

  • Different Drummer

    Don’t know what your on about.

    And I doubt you could tell me anyway as you appear to be are more interested in abusing people.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Horseman,

    The business case for the IFSC “outpost” up here in Belfast is (aside from a strategic move) to do with our lower wage costs, which is in turn related to our lower cost of living. I do not see an economic slowdown in the RoI translating into drops in living costs, or significant drops in the affordability of property, for example. Full steam ahead.

  • iluvni

    Have we received yet a cent of those millions of lovely Euros which the Republic’s Government promised us?

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Have we received yet a cent of those millions of lovely Euros which the Republic’s Government promised us?”

    Eh no, you can fuck off!
    It was only sweet talk, and sure why not!
    You will have to deal withn Gerry from now on, who urged a NO vote in the Republic.
    Why fund a folk, who will stab you in the back, as quick as the sun rises, as has probably always been the case?
    The price of a United Ireland is not so cheap!
    As Oscar Wilde (the homosexual Irishman) said, some folk know the price of everything and the value of nothing! Well, the price of a United Ireland is worth more than a transient price! And sure fuck it, we can wait till the price is right!

  • “Have we received yet a cent of those millions of lovely Euros which the Republic’s Government promised us?”

    Jesus wept, you lot have been sponging off the British for the past 88 years and now you want to sponge off the hated catholic free state to the south. You couldn’t make it up, that northern crowd have necks made of tungsten. Harold Wilson said it best in 1974, spongers of democracy, pathetic!

  • DK

    For economics watchers, this is more of the usual. When RoI goes up faster than GB, NI also goes up – at a pace somewhere in the middle… faster than GB, but slower than RoI.

    Equally, when RoI goes down faster than GB, NI also goes down – faster than GB, but slower than RoI.

    It’s the drag of the UK on the NI economy – it slows us down, which is either a good thing or a bad thing, depending on direction.

  • parry patetic

    Thanks DK.

    Any evidence?

    Not sure how to read this though. Is it some sort of portfolio effect with our econcomy exposed to both ROI and UK “investment” or is it just a function of our oversized public sector? Is our private economy growing and contracting along with the South’s but is it just not a big enough part of the wider economy for us to show the same rate of growth and contraction as the South does?

    On the face of it the second idea wouldn’t seem to fit with the news that our private economy is growing relatively strongly compared to the South unless there’s some sort of lag in the private sector, which would make you wonder what sort of linkage there is between the two and how the effects are communicated.

    I’m rambling.

  • Time to send the New Irish packing back to Africa (without Irish passports) and their other spawning grounds. These economic migrants, the Chinese included, should have their assets confiscated to pay their fares back to the Old Sod. The same applies to the Irish in America.

    Don’t shed too many tears for those thrown out of work. If they ran up big credit card bills, they deserve it.

    Comment about the No vote seems to be as ill informed and, in the case of Orange apologist, as sectarian as ever.

  • CW

    Mick
    I know this is off topic, but with the GAA championship season now well underway, I’m disappointed at the total lack of coverage on this site. I wonder if this is due to the fact that such threads (including those on soccer and rugby as well) tend to get hijacked by “saboteurs” and “trolls” with no interest in sport who always bring politics into the discussion with the result that the thread degenerates into a sectarian bunfight. If this is the case couldn’t we devise a system whereby anyone who deviates from the sports topic in hand is immediately yellow carded? I’ve enjoyed such discussions in the past and would like to see them brought back – but without the trolls who spoil it for those with a genuine interest in sport.

  • perry patetic

    “If they ran up big credit card bills, they deserve it.”

    Ouch

    Is that just punishment for their lack of parsimony or for their personal contribution to boom and bust?

  • BfB

    ‘Time to send the New Irish packing back to Africa (without Irish passports) and their other spawning grounds.’

    Free speech is a wonderful thing…..
    Enjoy it while it lasts….

  • Different Drummer

    Coming soon the Loylaist of the boot and the gun.