That Provo Birdie

The Irish News has more on the helicopter escape from Stormont by Gerry Adams yesterday. Will this go down in song, the day Adams broke out of the St Andrews II talks by escaping in a helicopter to Cork? How very daring. Instead of meeting with Gordon Brown and Peter Robinson and the Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheál Martin at Downing Street, he was at the English Market in Cork campaigning against the Lisbon Treaty (Taoiseach Brian Cowen campaigned for a Yes vote there on Tuesday). Security at Stormont were all afluster as the helicopter was unexpected. Adams even one-upped Clinton, whose Presidential helicopter landed at the much less exciting City Airport when he visited Belfast in 2000. Billionaire Sean Quinn, mentioned in yesterday’s comments, denies being the owner of the helicopter, whom Michelle Gildernew yesterday described as a “friend of the party in Fermanagh”, but refused to name. Read the full story in today’s Irish News: Stormont estate security alert caused by Gerry’s helicopter

PICTURE: Colm Lenaghan/pacemaker (Irish News)

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Good week all round for Grizzly – been struggling for some time since his poor election debate on RTE.

    And talking of aerial matters – Irish lineout a mess against ABs. Things did get better when Best came on but presumably wind conditions were evil.

  • IJP

    I thought the “no” campaign had a chance until I read that…

  • Sammy

    Good week all round for Grizzly – been struggling for some time since his poor election debate on RTE.

    We don’t know yet if it was a good week at all for Antichrist Adams. Did he get anything out of Robinson? Probably not. But I think Sammy you’re engaging in the typical Sinn Fein style of politics that you’re doing well if you’re in the news, regardless of whether you’ve done anything worthwhile.

    I still predict that it will all fall down for the DUP and SF soon.

    By the way it is not for nothing that Adams is the Antichrist. He believes that the sword of Christ, peace, is inferior to violence. He still believes it so be on your guard.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    John,

    how many Antichrists do you reckon there have been in total? Statistically I suspect the Chinese should have had a few. Have there been any other Irish ones – I have always had my suspicions about Michael Collins and of course there was a rumour that he could disappear at will.

    There have been quite a few supposed Welsh Saviours but all of these have proven to be bogus. Having just watched Wales have a damn good thrashing I wonder if Jimmy Saville (sometimes referred to Shaun Edwards) is another one of these.

    PS Anybody seen Dewi on any posts?

  • percy

    sammy
    according to the latest its 616 anyway:
    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134/beasts-real-mark-devalued-to-616
    no see Dewi

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Percy,

    do these new numbers mean Grizzly may be in the clear – perhaps another one for Johnboy?

    If you see the great Welsh choirster tell him I was looking for him – previously his boys went to South Africa and murdered the natives with machine guns (I think they may have also stolen some gold as well) this time they were murdered on the pitch. As a result of this latest slaughter the fecker owes me money.

  • percy

    Sammy,
    I certainly think Grizzly could use it in court as a defense in a civil prosecution.
    It casts doubt, and may well clear him of being the Beast.
    Phew he must be relieved!

    That’s why Dewi’s hiding then . lol

  • Sammy

    Just the one Antichrist since you ask. There have been many opponents of Christ, but only one who fits the bill per Book of Revelation.

    I illuminate you as follows:

    Confusion about Gerry Adams

    O’Connell said, “I think that people are confused about Gerry Adams. They ask, how could one of the leaders of the Northern Ireland peace process be opposed to Jesus Christ? The prophecies are very clear that there is a time when the Antichrist was not considered to be the Antichrist, so Adams may even be regarded as a good man for a time, but the period does not last forever. This comes from the verse, “he [i.e. the Antichrist] once was, now is not, and yet will come” (Rev 17:8). The Antichrist who “once was, now is not” is a reference to the fact that Adams was acting once as the Antichrist (i.e. during the Troubles) and “now” is no longer acting in that way. “Yet will come” indicates that before the prophecies will end, he will return to being the Antichrist, or opposed to Christ. That has happened now with his involvement in the cover up of the Paul Quinn murder.”

    Why Gerry Adams is the Antichrist!

    “First of all, I believe that Gerry Adams is the Antichrist because of the coincidence that his name comes out at 666 on my numeric alphabet (see Appendix 1), a simple numeric alphabet that I discovered during my years at St Columb’s College in Derry and further investigated during my years at University College Galway. If his name didn’t come out at 666, using some reasonable means, then I would not believe that he is the Antichrist. He would simply be to me just another delinquent who leads a very large conspiracy to undermine Ireland’s Christian heritage.

    “Second of all, due to another pertinent coincidence his name contains “Adam”, the name of the first man, and from a theological point of view, this adds much to the basis of him being the Antichrist. Adam coincidentally means ‘man’ in Hebrew, and the number of the beast is specifically described as “man’s number” (Rev 13:18).

    “These are extraordinary coincidences and not to be dismissed by any means by any intelligent observer of matters theological. “The apostle Paul wrote: “For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive” (1 Cor 15:22). Adam therefore symbolises death, and thus the question must be asked, is there significance to the ‘Adam’ in Gerry Adams’ name? Does Gerry Adams, the effective leader of the IRA’s republican movement, symbolise death?

    “The descriptions of the beasts in the Book of Revelation are interesting.

    “‘The inhabitants worshipped the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed,’ (Rev 13:12). Coincidentally, Gerry Adams was shot and wounded in 1984, but recovered. Afterwards, he became Sinn Fein president and one of the foremost politicians in Northern Ireland. The use of violence for him is a matter of tactics. That is a matter of fact and record. Gerry Adams has not stepped away from violence. He believes in his own words that “there is a time for peace and a time for war”, mocking the Prince of Peace and equating Christ with the Antichrist, good with evil.

    “The first beast, who is said to be the Antichrist, is prophesied to have “seven heads” (Rev 13:1), which is coincidentally the number of heads on the IRA army council, including Gerry Adams’ allegedly.

    ““Who can make war against him?” (Rev 13:7). The IRA has been described as ‘the most sophisticated terrorist organisation in the history of mankind’. Their structure makes it impossible for a conventional army to defeat them

    “Gerry Adams fulfilled another prophecy during the run-up to the 2007 Assembly election campaign in the North of Ireland. This involved him requesting the use of Clonard Monastery (Roman Catholic) church in West Belfast for a political meeting discussing his party’s policy. He still believed that armed struggle was a legitimate means of resolving differences.

    “When Gerry Adams took to the altar of Clonard monastery while his beliefs were in conflict with Christ’s teaching, he was proclaiming himself to be wiser than God and better than Jesus Christ. He was in logic proclaiming himself to be God.

    ““[The man of lawlessness or the Antichrist] will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” (2 Thes 2:3-4)”

    (From The Book of Revelation Revealed – click on my name for more info)

  • flycatcher

    Still smoking the blow, John?

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    John,

    I think there was a senior loyalist paramilitary figure call Adams as well – do you see any significance in that?

  • Comrade Stalin

    Mick,

    Can you please yellow card that spamming idiot ? He’s ruining your blog.

  • Flycatcher

    You betcha.

    Sammy

    Senior loyalist may well be Antichristian, but as there is little awareness of Christ in unionist political circles, I would have to suggest that he could not be opposed to something he doesn’t understand. Gerry on the other hand is so well acquainted with Christ he chooses simply to do everything he can to defy him.

    Comrade Stalin

    You’re like the cuckoo who comes out every so often and shouts “Yellow Card”. Would you ever give over. I am just answering queries, my friend.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    John,

    do you understand that some people may be uneasy that you are apparently advertising your own website/books?

  • percy

    john,
    but you’re not answering queries though.
    I put it to you that the latest studies point to 616 being the number of the Beast.

    Maybe you’re the Beast who was ( blogged on Sluggers ), who is not ( you have to go away and think about 616 ), but will yet come ( when you’ve tried to fit Gerald or another name for Gerry into your numerology to get 616)

    Comrade,
    last one from me. I’ll not encourage again!

  • pith

    If one is flying in a helicopter from Stormont to Cork, does one pass over Belfast? Does one pass over Oxford Street for instance?

  • Dewi, Lagos

    I’m here – and owe someone money…..Sammy send me your bank account details !!!

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Double it up with next weekend? If not keen on that then pick any other team than Spain (my choice)in Euro 2008 and which ever gets the furthest wins.

  • Dewi

    Next weekend double. U were just lucky with the drecht Munster weather. Strange couple of games – I was hoping for a bloodbath in Blomfontein but didn’t happen. Ireland really went for it though -Richhie Mc single handedly won that game.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Dewi,

    all righty – as long as you are in possession of all your wits and are not addled by the demon drink.

  • Dewi

    Totally sober Sammy – just a little fed up – we are just too dwt to compete….and whenever I watch Zulu I want the natives to win….

  • Sammy

    Who would be uneasy? I am not advertising anything other than the comments about the Book of Revelation that are on my website. I can assure you that people don’t buy books because of posts on Slugger.

    Perci

    Get a grip. I think you’ll find that 616 has been put around by British and American sources, who have more to lose from this than Adams, since I put it out in the public domain in recent years. It’s called a pre-emptive strike. They are of course the latest studies but they are run by the English speaking world in order to protect themselves from being regarded as the evil empire Babylon of the Book of Revelation.

    666 is based on the trinity of evil, man being at the heart of that because he was created on the sixth day. 616 has no meaning and is just a distraction.

    Why the English-speaking world is Babylon

    “There is by dint of coincidence a power in our sphere in Northern Ireland that has dominated our affairs and indeed the affairs of many countries around the world for the last several hundred years.

    “In other words there is by coincidence an oppressor empire just as the Jews coincidentally had an oppressor empire at the time of Christ and for several hundred years beforehand. That was the Roman Empire, preceded by the Greeks, and it has been matched in size and brutality only by the British Empire that has dominated Irish affairs for eight hundred years. Its mysterious title is given in the Book of Revelation as:-

    MYSTERY
    BABYLON THE GREAT
    THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
    AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
    OF THE EARTH (Rev 17:5)

    “Language is important when understanding Babylon. The title Babylon evolves from the Old Testament Book of Genesis when the Tower of Babel is being constructed by man. God doesn’t like the structure so he sends a curse to the men constructing it that sends them away speaking different languages. Babylon is thus a place where men speak the same language, and are thus both capable of constructing great structures and of offending God.

    “So when we refer to Babylon, we must refer to it as a place where everyone speaks the same language whilst offending God. I refer to it as the English-speaking world in the knowledge that my people also speak English, but that they are conscientious objectors to this new world in the sense that they are trying to change it for the better.

    “So the coincidence is that England has oppressed Ireland for eight centuries, like the Romans oppressed the Jews; and now its language is used all over the world and thus a Babylon exists. Even the author of Revelation, John the Evangelist, could not have imagined in his wildest dreams that his Babylon, which he thought would be the Romans, could have such a wide control of the language spoken in the world. His choice of the name Babylon for the Roman Empire can be seen as divinely-inspired when one realises that it turns out that it relates to the English-speaking world because the Romans did not try to change the language of those they oppressed and thus there would have been no connection to the Tower of Babel story. So it was by logical extension “prophesied” that the British Empire would enslave the tongues of the peoples they conquered even if John never foresaw this himself. This demonstrates that forces are at play in Revelation that are fully in control of our world to the extent that they can predict 1,900 years ago the direction of their chosen empire will take over 1,100 years later.

  • Mr Angry

    John,

    For the love of God, book yourself into the puzzlehouse for a few weeks.

  • Steve

    john

    if you believe in fairytales thats fine but please shut the fuck up. your mental illness causes me pain

    you have entered the realms of the cool aid drinkers, so either drink the cool aid or go quietly into the sweet sorrow. But quit annoying the rational people with your mental illness

  • Dewi
  • truth and justice

    Looks like the Sinners have an airforce

  • Mr Angry

    Not everyone feels like you as evidenced by the hits on my website.

    Steve

    Ever subtle. Typical American shallow SF supporter, is there any other type, and good old boy. You’re a Babylonian, Steve. That’s why you can’t see Gerry, your prize possession, as the beast.

  • Trainpilot

    May the good Lord save us!

  • Mick Fealty

    Right guys,

    I don’t want to pan anyone’s beleifs, but we are getting into barfly territory here. Please, if you have nothing relevant to say about the posts, then please feel free to say nothing!

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    John,

    I am not suggesting that a person’s popularity is a measure of correct they are – but how many people share your views?

    If the number is low then perhaps a review of your tactics might be in order?

  • Billy

    Two threads on Gerry’s trip in a helicopter. You boys are obsessed.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    It is a bird ? is it a plane ? no it’s a grizzly

  • Éireannach Saolta

    sammy
    according to the latest its 616 anyway:
    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/11134/beasts-real-mark-devalued-to-616
    no see Dewi
    Posted by percy on Jun 07, 2008 @ 04:49 PM

    Percy

    This this not make MI6 a possible code for the beast. 6 representing the letter m on a phone keypad, I looking like the number 1 and 6 well being 6 you get 616.

  • Sammy

    I’m only publishing some of this stuff for the first time, so I can’t see how it is going to be popular just yet.

    But what problem do you have with any of it? I’ll show you where you’re going wrong in your interpretation of BoR or the message of Jesus Christ. This is complex stuff and requires wisdom.

    IS

    666 is where its at? There are always going to be competing views, but 616 is a distraction, born of a misinterpretation of the intention of the 666 number to signify the man, sin and evil trinity. 616 symbolises nothing and has been set up by the Babylonians to distract from their own guilt as being “the owners” (Rev 17:11) of the Antichrist Adams.

  • Dewi

    John – your views are your own and up to you – but the constant posting on this site is a little annoying. How about agreeing to once a week ?

  • Dewi

    Surely you can’t put limits on God’s work.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    John,

    even god knew the importance of keeping his message tight – there were only 10 commandments and four main gosples – and he only sent 3 wise men.

  • Sammy

    I’ve only sent you one conceptual framework as an interpretation of the Book of Revelation.

  • Dewi

    John – I’ve talked to him and he says once a week is OK

  • Dewi

    I think you’ll find that over the last few months it’s been less than once a week.

    But I’m glad you’re on speaking terms with God. It shows that you’re either completely mad or just a mystic. If you’re a mystic you would know that what I’m writing here is vastly more important than your posts, even if I do say so myself.

    So you’re probably not a mystic, just completely off your head.(in a good way)

  • THE BIGMAN

    It was Sammy McNally what done it

    How do you know that their was 3 WISE MEN?

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    One for the gold, one for the frankincense and one for myrrh.

  • Dessertspoon

    Ok so back to the helicopter…..I think I know who owns it. Take a good look – black with a red strip down the side??? It has to be the A-Team!!!

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    DS

    quit your jibberjabber.

  • THE BIGMAN

    It was Sammy McNally what did it

    Conjecture/supposition/surmise/conclusion reached by gussing without any facts or evidence

  • corb

    John – subtract one visit from this weeks web stats. I’ve just had a look at yer site and have to say I’m not convinced.

    I think it was this opening claim that did it for me: “I am the returned Christ, who has come in glory to judge the living and the dead, and whose kingdom has no end.”

    I’m gutted to think the returned Christ would choose to reside in Derry City.

  • earnan

    Revelation was actually a thinly disguised political tract, with the names of those being criticized changed to numbers to protect the authors and early Christians from reprisals. “It’s a very political document,” Dr. Aitken said. “It’s a critique of the politics and society of the Roman empire, but it’s written in coded language and riddles.”

  • earnan

    I like to think the risen and returned Lord would not spend his time argueing on an internet message board about Northern Ireland.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    earnan,

    I agree – probably would spend most of his spare time down south of the border getting on with the valuable work of moving statues about.

  • Corb

    I’m gutted to think the returned Christ would choose to reside in Derry City.

    Ah but those walls. In any case wherever I am is the New Jerusalem, the walls being important. In telling you this I am reminded of Princess Anne’s retort to the Spanish authorities inviting her to come to the Royal Box at a sporting event. She said, “Wherever I am is the Royal Box.”

    Earnan

    I’ve uncovered all of the riddles in my book, The Book of Revelation Revealed. Ask me a riddle and I’ll give you the answer.

    I’m not arguing, just keeping myself busy. I’ve more sense than to argue with you boys.

    Sammy

    Don’t knock it till you’ve seen one move.

  • USA

    John O’Connell is a complete nut job who has nothing valuable to offer these discussions.

  • USA

    Typical Sinn Fein supporter from good old Americay

    -no empathy, compassion or love, just hate in his heart for all enemies of the Antichrist and Babylon (i.e. USA, UK, etc, see my book.)

  • Steve

    John

    I didn’t accuse you of being a muslim so why would you accuse me of being an american?

    And just because you have delusions of grandeur doent been you are right just delusional

  • Steve

    I think you’ll find that I didn’t accuse you of being anything. Unless you also post under USA, which might make you delusional for thinking that you’re not American in essence.

    But the same goes for you: lacking empathy, compassion and love for your fellow man, a basic Sinn Fein approach to the world. Shallow too.

  • earnan

    John

    What do you say to people who think the Book of Revelations, and the rest of the Bible, is not the word of God but just a book written by different humans over several time periods with religious myths and stories in it?

  • Steve

    John

    I show a great deal more empathy for you than you do for I

    For instance I don’t inflict my merntal illness on you but you do not return the favour

  • Steve

    By the way you did accuse me of being american, you did it right here

    Steve

    Ever subtle. Typical American shallow SF supporter, is there any other type, and good old boy. You’re a Babylonian, Steve. That’s why you can’t see Gerry, your prize possession, as the beast.

    Posted by John O’Connell on Jun 08, 2008 @ 01:09

  • Steve

    Try empathy first and referring to me every post as mentally ill is not compassionate. I am not mentally ill.

    Ah right you’re the English speaking Canadian who thinks he’s not American. There is little difference at this side of the pond.

  • Earnan

    The Bible is the word of God. But it is mistakely regarded as all good. Clearly it is the book of Good and Evil. The Old Testament largely desribes evil and the reason it is in the world. The New Testament largely describes what it is to be good and the origins of good.

    What Revelation is about is ending the Old Testament and beginning the world of the New Testament or Christ. Revelation is about the coming of Christ and one of the barriers to Christ’s reign comes in the form of (Gerry) Adams, the beast who advocates a return to the Old Testament, living up to the Adam in his name.

    Clearly the basis of the violence of the IRA was encapsulated in the words “an eye for an eye”, the basic rule of the OT.

    It’s nearly over now, and we are on the last leg of the journey to end the OT and begin to build paradise.