Oh dear, Hillary’s aide hits back at Trimble…

Toby Harnden picks up on a strangely intemperate hit back from Hillary Clinton’s (who has ‘misspoken’ again, apparently over one of her trips to Bosnia) aide Jamie Rubin against David Trimble, calling a him a ‘crankpot’ (just under six minutes in). Toby also kindly provides a transcript for the key parts of the exchange:

Mitchell: “As you know, there are others, like David Trimble, who disagree.”

Rubin: “I’ve met David Trimble. And he’s pretty much the only one. He’s a Protestant, they traditionally go with the Conservatives. I think we have a John Hume, a Nobel Peace Prize winner, who said?

Mitchell: “It was David Trimble who shared in that prize, Jamie.”

Rubin: “Right, and I know these people. I’ve been living over there. David Trimble is a crankpot and what he said about her was demeaning. He said, ‘Oh well, maybe she accompanied her husband on a couple of trips’. As a woman, Andrea, I would think you would recognise when somebody is trying to demean the activities of a woman. She was an important First Lady in foreign policy. I know. I was in that administration and we understood she was not serving tea and cookies, she played a significant role.”

Hmmm… I know a few people in Trimble’s former party who have spent time working for the US Democrats in their time, I’m not sure this is going to go down well in many quarters… Not that that is going to cause anyone in the US sleepless nights, but for a man who’s spent some time in the US State department, his diplomacy skills are clearly not what they might once have been…


  • I was certain you must have transcribed Rubin’s comments incorrectly. I thought he must have said either “crackpot” or “crank,” two words which have basically the same meaning: a crazily annoying gadfly, prone to conspiracy theories. But no, after going to the tape I see that Rubin did say “crankpot.” However, he didn’t say “recognise.” He said “recognize.”

  • ozy

    Just shows the desperation of the HRC campaign to try to portray Hillary as some kind of crucial peacemaker, whilst insulting the real people who made the deal.

    Hillary’s NI claims have already received quite a bit of play in the US media, and this kind of flailing around and attacking former Nobel Peace Prize winners won’t do her any favours either.

  • darth rumsfeld

    where’s Duncan Shipley Dalton when you need him ( can’t believe I said that)?


    Attacking nobel prize winners does not suggest any great grasp of international diplomacy either.

    Also, no word of Conal McDevitt

  • wild turkey

    Re HR Clinton campaign

    whaddya expect? do words like rats sinking and ship come to mind anyone?

    In terms of naked and empty political ambition, manipulation of family and friends, paranoia, arrogance and a deft touch with the truth the only other american politican, at least in my lifetime (and I have seen some class acts over the years), who can approach the inimitable Ms HRC is the man himself, Richard Milhous Nixon.

    She is even able to fabricate, uh sorry misspeak, tales regarding the beloved investment banker daughter chelsea. See below

    March 26, 2008
    Hillary’s Other Fabrication (Dick Morris)
    @ 2:31 pm
    By Dick Morris and Eileen McGann

    Now that Hillary has been nailed in an outright fabrication of her role in Bosnia, it is time to remind ourselves of another, even more galling, fantasy that Hillary tried to sell to voters.
    After Sept. 11, Hillary had a problem. New Yorkers were desperately focused on their own need for protection and they were saddled with a senator who was not one of them — an Arkansan, or was it a Chicagoan?
    Interviewed on the “Today Show” one week after Sept. 11, she spun an elaborate yarn. The kindest thing we could say was that it was a fantasy. Or a fabrication.
    She said that Chelsea was jogging around the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 and happened to duck into a coffee shop when the airplanes hit. She said that this move saved Chelsea’s life. But Chelsea told Talk magazine that she was in a friend’s apartment four miles from ground zero when the first plane hit. Her friend called her, waking her up, and told her to turn on the TV. On television, she saw the second plane hit, disproving Hillary’s claim that “she heard the plane hit. She heard it. She did.”
    So why did Hillary make up the story about Chelsea? Most likely to was because her co-senator (and implicit rival for the voters’ affection), a real New Yorker, Charles Schumer (D), spoke of his daughter, who attended Stuyvesant High School, located next to the Trade Center, being at real risk on Sept. 11. Hillary needed to make herself part of the scene.
    She invented the entire story on national television, the “Today Show,” and didn’t blink an eye.
    Her fabrication on the “Today Show” was no unique foray. It is her standard M.O. It gives us pause in evaluating all of her stories and calls into question her entire credibility.

  • ‘Toby Harden’ sounds like some sort of porn star.

  • nineteensixtyseven

    Hillary’s really scraping the barrel now. That ‘dodging sniperfire’ tale was hilarious.

  • Blooper

    As someone who isn’t known on this site for supporting Ulster Unionists, I have to say I find the comments made by Harden utterly disgraceful. The fact that he cites Trimble’s religion is disgraceful.

    I previously wanted Hillary to win the Dem nominaton because I thought that Obama was all presentation and no substance whereas she clearly is a very policy-strong (i.e. she has lots of them) canidate.

    Toby Harden provides us with a useful insight into the type of thinking that would be present in a Clinton White House. No thanks!

  • Muad’Dub

    Yet more astounding arrogance and lies from the Hiltlery camp. When a “liberal” candidate looks more rabid and foaming at the mouth crazy than the conservative one you have to wonder what the hell went wrong. Maybe Hilary can write a book when this is done “How to lose a Presidential Election and piss away millions in less than 10 Months”.

  • Harry Flashman

    *In terms of naked and empty political ambition, manipulation of family and friends, paranoia, arrogance and a deft touch with the truth the only other american politican, at least in my lifetime (and I have seen some class acts over the years), who can approach the inimitable Ms HRC is the man himself, Richard Milhous Nixon.*

    You clearly never saw her husband in action then.

    Funny how during the eight years of BJ Clinton’s presidency commentators who pointed out the sheer sleaziness of his administration were dismissed by the media as part of some “vast right wing conspiracy” but when the Clintons pull the same stunts against Barack Obama the scales suddenly fall from everyone’s eyes.

    It’s a funny old world.

  • Star of the County Down

    Fact is though, Harry, that, like it or lump it, Slick Willie did indeed have some charm, charisma, call it what you will. His wife, on the other hand, comes across as a shrill, ‘misspeaking’ harpie.

  • Harry Flashman

    Maybe she does SotCD, the fact remains however that “charming” Bill Clinton and his wife were a double act and their sleaziness and downright crookery left anything Tricky Dicky did in the ha’penny place (Nixon had the decency to resign remember) but for eight years (longer if you count Hillary’s career up until the ascent of Obama) both of them could do no wrong in the eyes of the liberal establishment.

    It ill behoves that self same liberal establishment to suddenly discover the Clintons’ (plural) sheer nastiness today as if it was something completely new to behold.

  • BfB

    ,When a “liberal” candidate looks more rabid and foaming at the mouth crazy than the conservative one’

    It’s because they are. Simple, really.

  • Blooper


    Excellent point. Both Clintons have been practically worshipped by the Liberal elite for years. Now they’ve found an even more liberal candidate, the Clintons have been cast aside.

    Anyway, as someone who wants McCain to win, I think its great fun to watch the Democrats rip the back out of each other! This one will go all the way to the Convention, where I think the party bosses might attempt to shaft Obama.

    What fun!

  • BfB

    Ah, yes..bring back the Clinton success story. At least one socialist creep can’t wait.
    “At the least one would hope for the level of relations we had with ex-President Clinton.”

  • New York State where I live has a long history of splitting its 2 seats in the US Senate between the two major parties which I thought was a pretty good idea in a almost evenly balanced Senate. Since Hillary’s election, however, both seats have been held by Democrats — a situation which this Republican does not particularly care for.

    Hillary, however, has proven to be a pretty good US Senator for New York, better than others of either party who have held the seat before her. Based on her performance in the Senate, I think that she has shown herself far more worthy of a Presidential nomination than Obama.

    THAT, of course, doesn’t mean I would vote for either one of them in November.

  • As far as I know, Hillary’s only contribution was to have tea on the Lower Ormeau Road with the late Joyce McCartan. Although, with her creativity, perhaps she could claim it was during a rerouted Ballynafeigh parade, and the Rev Billy Hoey was awfully rude to her.

    By the way, Mick, you do still have the second bit of my DUP article.

  • wild turkey

    (Nixon had the decency to resign remember)

    Ah c,mon Harry. The smoking gun (tape) was ordered released by the supreme court and the leadership of Nixon’s party held it to his head. Plus resignation as oppossed to being chucked out of office by a senate vote of guilty on impeachment charges saved the man his pension and a couple of million bucks in subsequent expenses paid for by the taxpayer.

    That said, if Bubba had faced similar numbers in senate vote scenario he would also have had the ‘decency’ to resign prior to a guilty vote.

  • Duncan Shipley Dalton

    [i]“where’s Duncan Shipley Dalton when you need him ( can’t believe I said that)?”[/i]

    Not sure what you mean but hey. 5 years on now I didn’t think anyone gave a crap about my thoughts anymore.

    Hilary is full of it and the whole NI I was invaluable to the peace process thing is so ridiculous. Then her people get so desperate they call Trimble a crankpot (should it be crackpot? What’s a crankpot?). Though when one considers it all I suppose it’s not like Trimble did anything right! I don’t think he even once had tea with the Women’s Coalition and we all know how utterly vital Monica was to the final peace process.

    Hilary has already lost the nomination but yet the ego train keeps rolling, she cannot overtake Obama’s delegate count or the popular vote camp yet still she drags the whole thing out, the Clintons are so far up their own asses. I just wish Hilary would take the log out of her eye and drop out so Obama could get on with challenging McCain. I like McCain as a guy and I enjoyed reading his books but I cannot really get behind “bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran” as the first step in America’s new foreign policy regime. There is also the problem that McCain is utterly facile when he talks about domestic policy, it’s really clear that he knows nothing and has no ideas about domestic issues because he just isn’t interested in them. So much as I like him I couldn’t really vote for him on policy grounds. Although it may all be irrelevant anyway as I have decided to come back to Ulster so I might well not be voting in the election in November. Hopefully I will be back in Belfast in a few months. Looking forward to seeing the place after 5 years of changes. It’s amazing that after all those DUP(and former UUP) people called me a sellout I just didn’t realize that they needed a higher price what a naïve fool I was as I really thought they had some morals and principals, hilarious. See you all soon and hope to catch up darth.