Spotlight on Paisley…

Almost a valedictory feel to last night’s documentary on Ian Paisley. You can get it three parts: the first part above, with parts two and three here and here. Snippets worth noting is Paisley’s clear irritation from the pulpit in the Martyr’s Memorial after he was deposed as the Moderator of the Free Presbyterian. There’s also split screen on Paisley talking about Ahern in 2003 and his welcome of the Taoiseach to Ballymena last week. Jim Allister too, inflects a subtle hint that there are people outside the party who might well move into the DUP once the Paisley leadership is gone.

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  • Paul P

    As I said on another thread the lasting impression I had from the Spotlight programme is that Jim Allister is more bitter than I thought and has less charisma and charm to be a leader of a political party/movement to challenge the DUP.

  • Mick, pt 3 not playing for me.

  • I was a little puzzled by the Spotlight reporter’s observation that the PIRA had ‘decommissioned and disbanded’ – when the Army Council, allegedly, is still in place.

  • joeCanuck

    Should, heaven forbid, Paisley become totally incapacitated, who assumes the mantle of First Minister?

  • BonarLaw

    joeCanuck

    relax, it won’t be Marty!

  • Batten down the hatches, Joe, it might be Robinson – without the restraining hand, allegedly, of Paisley snr!!

  • Sweet jesus what an awful concept, the thoughts of Robbo as First Minister. Intellectually I knew that it was gonna happen, especially given Junior’s recent scandals. I can’t quite see Robbo, confidant of Billy Wright and more recently tireless defender of the UDA retirement fund, being a happy wee chuckle brother, so that might be an interesting dynamic.

  • Mick Fealty

    Works for me Nevin…

  • joeCanuck

    So it definitely wouldn’t be Marty, temporarily?

  • BonarLaw

    joeCanuck

    definitely not!

    It will be Robo though.

  • The__Raven

    We pray for the continued good health of our First Minister…

  • Thanks, Mick. There seems to be a Vista/MediaPlayer/Browser conflict at this end!!

  • USA

    What a disgusting individual Paisley Sr is. Full of vile hatred mixed with religious fundamentalism and topped off with a large helping of hypocracy.
    Good riddance.

  • McGrath

    Not really disgusting, more the epitome of siege mentality, with modern unionism being the result of rather than the cause of the partition of Ireland. His latter years may well be a precursor of future unionism.

  • joeCanuck

    I guess you don’t believe in change or redemption, USA.

  • Gréagóir O’ Frainclín

    Gas how political moderates on all sides were once hoping that Paisley would retire and let Robinson take charge as he was seen as more pragmatic and approachable. Paisley on the other hand has mellowed with age, like fruit which sweetens as it ripens. Robinson now appears stoney cold, unapproachable and stubborn.

    Jim Allister is the new wannabe Paisley or Carson(the Dublin man); a much weaker version however, and just as well. Paranoid, belligerant, stubborn, acerbic, etc… all the traits of old Unionism; continually stirring the old pot trying to keep the old hatreds going. And sure look what happened to the ‘Real Unionist’ and ‘UK Unionist’ Robert McCartney. Looking at the old footage of Paisley, he was some character, driven with a mania of fundalmentalist religious fervour he definitely incited people for all the wrong reasons. However, people today, wouldn’t buy it anymore!

  • [i]definitely not!

    It will be Robo though.

    Posted by BonarLaw on Feb 06, 2008 @ 11:21 PM[/i]

    How else could it be? Dodds? Mrs Robo? Sammy Wilson? Certainly not Junior, he’ll be off selling cut and shut Ford Cortina’s by then with any luck.

  • Butterknife

    Paisley Jr on father’s MP payroll
    An MLA who is doing his job will not have time to be a researcher for daddy; a committed researcher will not have time to fulfil the duties and obligations of an MLA.
    Conclusion: – Moral vacuum

  • belfastpaul

    The most surprising thing about the programme was that Mike Fealty has a suit!!!

  • Chuckle Vision

    As Ian Paisley said in his sermon “Strange things are happening”. Strangest of all was his claim that many of his critics owed him their souls. Is he selling indulgences?

  • Mick Fealty

    bp,

    I like to keep people guessing…

  • darth rumsfeld

    “The most surprising thing about the programme was that Mike Fealty has a suit!!!”

    Not so fast. It only proves he has a jacket- and the tie might be a clip on!

  • On the evening of 17 November, 2 days after the Anglo-Irish Agreement, Ian Paisley compared Mrs Thatcher to Sennacherib, king of the Assyrians. (As all Sluggerites will know from Bible Class, Sennacherib was king of the Assyrians who tried to attack Jerusalem in the reign of King Hezekiah and whose army was decimated by the Angel of the Lord.) Paisley noted that Hezekiah was slain in the temple of his god by his two sons, and implied that Mrs Thatcher’s political fate might be similar. He was uncannily prescient, for that is exactly how the Iron Lady fell. Now, all these years later, I wonder if Papa Doc will be forced out the same way, slain by his political sons.

  • Mick Fealty

    So forensic in your attention to detail Darth. I’m saying nothing…

  • Chuckle Vision

    Interesting analysis, Watchman. So convinced is he that he is invincible, that recently Papa Doc has been warning critics within the church that they may suffer divine retribution if they attack “the Lord’s anointed” ie himself.

  • Gréagóir O’ Frainclín

    The Lord seems to be a very poor judge of character; a dithering Abraham, Moses with the poor sense of direction, the traitor Judus, meglomaniac Paul, etc… He can sure pick ’em.

    Just as well he didn’t go in for football management.

  • Greenflag

    ‘Just as well he didn’t go in for football management.’

    Now theres a thought – Paisley a.k.a God as Northern Ireland’s manager . With God on their side how could they lose?

    I can already see the notice boards on the bethels of Belfast plastered with

    ‘ Jesus saves but Paisley scores ‘

  • Interested

    Whilst Robinson is next in line to take-over as soon as the big man steps as side.

    I wouldn’t rule out Dodds making it become a leadership battle.

  • Paul P

    “Jim Allister too, inflects a subtle hint that there are people outside the party who might well move into the DUP once the Paisley leadership is gone.”

    Who do you think this is?

  • “Interesting analysis, Watchman. So convinced is he that he is invincible, that recently Papa Doc has been warning critics within the church that they may suffer divine retribution if they attack “the Lord’s anointed” ie himself.”

    I’m not surprised to hear that from the old booby. What amazes me is that Paisley is so full of personal egotism (a sin in itself) that he puts himself in a Pope-like position where anyone who challenges him is challenging God’s “Anointed One”. It’s all rubbish of course and Papa Doc is now just a rambling flip-flopper.

  • joeCanuck

    I guess you’ve just put yourself in the firing line for the first thunderbolt, Watchman.
    Suggest you buy a tin foil hat.

  • Dodds may indeed have enough ego himself to challenge for leadership, but he will fail, hard. Robo is too secure, has a better profile at the moment, and is a much better politician in general.

    From my part I actually wish Dodds was a stronger challenger and, sometimes, that Junior wasn’t such a greedy stupid pillock, then when the eventual battle for DUP leadership came up the party had a good chance of splitting or atleast fracturing a bit, as is the nature of Unionist parties when they get too big.

  • Butterknife

    MLAs ‘to receive £52,000 salary’
    Paisley Jnr can leave his daddy’s employment now that MLAs may get a pay rise …
    SF are the only ones to say NO this time 🙂

  • Sinn Fein also said they’d not allow student fees to be raised, yet when the time came to vote a large number of them dissapeared and didn’t vote thus allowing their allies in the DUP to have their way.

    Shinners are very good at saying one thing then doing another.

  • willowfield

    the Martyr’s Memorial

    Is it not Martyrs’ Memorial, i.e. dedicated to more than one martyr?

  • Porlock

    Hi All,

    The Alliance Party have arranged a press conference for Monday morning at 11.30 to announce a defection (from the SDLP as it happens).

    Anyone know the name? I’m being told its the chair of a constituency association or district council.

    Porlock

  • Impartial Reporter

    Hi All,

    The Alliance Party have arranged a press conference for Monday morning at 11.30 to announce a defection (from the SDLP as it happens).

    Anyone know the name? I’m being told its the chair of a constituency association or district council.

    Porlock

    Posted by Porlock on Feb 08, 2008 @ 01:05 PM

    I’ve heard speculation that a number of journalists think the person who is defecting to Alliance is from the Ulster Unionist Party.

  • Insider

    Porlock – Does it really matter?

  • Insider

    Robo will not be challenged. In DUP terms he has grown as Paisley has deflated. The DUP with Robinson as leader will shave another layer off the UUP and will stop the edgy feeling about relationship with SF. One thing for sure – he will not be a chuckle brother.

  • lib2016

    Unionism’s problem is that they need to find ways to co-operate with nationalists after all the years of refusing to do so. It would be all too easy to gloat but the fact is that on the ground people already knew that it had become unavoidable by the time of the last election and gave the DUP a mandate to do so.

    The unionist and especially the loyalist voter has accepted powersharing with the nationalist voter’s choice, which is Sinn Fein at the moment. This isn’t Belfast Corporation in 1985 when beating up your political opponent was an acceptable way to behave, that policy is as dead as the Orange Order’s claim to march wherever it likes. The leadership of the DUP, whichever of them comes out on top, has already accepted the need for a compromise position and knows that the governments have left them with no choice. Sinn Fein made it clear long ago that they could work with anyone in the DUP so that’s not a problem.

    Only unionists could suggest that being rude to the people one has to deal with daily is a political principle or even a reasonable way to behave. Have the UUP been taken over by a collective deathwish?