Merry Christmas yer a***….

How times have changed….

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  • susan

    Voting is 96 point something to 3 point 8 something against censoring the “Fairytale of New York” at the BBC’s poll:

    http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7149525.stm?dynamic_vote=ON#vote_pogues

    i remember my first Christmas in New York, I was charmed to discover that a few of the boys in the NYPD choir, or more realistically just plain boys in the NYPD, really do sing “Galway Bay” off duty in the pubs off Queen’s Boulevard around this time of year, as well as (very convincingly) belting out both Shane and Kirsty’s parts on “Fairytale of New York.” Or at least, they did then.

  • George

    I wonder if the BBC know that the word “faggot” in Hiberno-English doesn’t actually have anything to do with homosexuals.

  • Liam Lappin

    Political correctness gone mad!

  • cut the bull

    You scumbag you maggot, you cheap lousy big bunch of wrapped up sticks, happy Christmas your arse. I pray God its our last.

    No it just doesn’t sound the same does it.

    You scumbag you maggot, you cheap lousy faggot, happy Christmas your arse. I pray God its our last.

    Sounds a bit more realistic.

  • Tochais Síoraí

    Speaking of cheap lousy faggots, Ronan Keating and Máire Ní Bhraonáin should’ve been fukked out of the country for their censored version of Fairytale a few years ago.

  • Rory

    Bit sexist this so far methinks. “faggot” was not he only word to be dwibbled over, “slut” got the treatment as well.

    Ah, but that was only seen as a reference to women who are notoriously much less sensitive than woofters.

    Anyway isn’t it about high time that that Mary Black woman changed ger name since she’s clearly not.

    P.s. Herself has just informed me that the D.G. of the BBC has overturned the censorship. I just feigned a look of concern, shook me head and muttered, “Gay-bashing, mysoginist wanker” in an audible sotto voce in an attempt to establish some pc credibility – but she gave me one of them looks again which makes me think she’s not buying it.

  • Pete Baker

    I was just about to ask about the “old slut on junk” line, Rory.

    Most appropriate response noted here – “too ridiculous”

    “[Kirsty] MacColl’s mother Jean, speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, called the ban “too ridiculous”. “These are a couple of characters,” she said, referring to the song, “and they speak like that”.

    A spokeswoman for the band said they would be amused to hear about Radio 1’s decision.

    “This song now goes with Christmas like the Queen’s speech and mince pies, and all of a sudden it’s offensive,” she said. “It strikes me as very odd and I’m sure the band will be very amused.”

  • Rory

    “…I’m sure the band will be very amused”

    I hardly think that Shane will give a toss, Pete and poor, lovely Kirsty is, alas, beyond caring.

    Why it became necessary for Kirsty’s mother, Jean, to have to defend the song in the first place by stating the bloody obvious is what rankles many.

    Since it is hardly possible for Radio 1 to “dumb down” below its existing level we can only take this misguided stab at pc as some foolish attempt to “dumb up” – if you know what I mean. I just hope they don’t start getting really high-brow and start to take on Chaucer – any mention of “cocks” and I’ll have me solicitor onto them like “white on rice” – as my US brothers might say.

  • susan

    I just realised it is seven years to the day since Kirsty MacColl was killed in that accident.

    At least we’ll always have “Soho Square” and “There’s A Guy Works Down the Chip Shop Swears He’s Elvis.”

    Rest in peace, Kirsty, sadly missed.

  • Rory

    I’ve just picked up on these comments from “Gay Rights” activist, Peter Tatchell :

    However, veteran gay rights activist Peter Tatchell said Radio 1’s actions were right.

    “The word faggot is being sung as an insult, alongside scumbag and maggot. In this abusive context it is unacceptable,” he said.

    “Well he would say that, wouldn’t he?” as Mandy Rice-Davis, who at least had the grace to be an honest tart, once remarked of an earlier hypocrite.

    Those of us who have followed, with dropped jaws, Tatchell’s career over the years recall vividly his attempt as Labour candidate to win the by-election for Bermondsey, second omly to Ebbw Vale as the safest Labour seat in the country, which had been vacated by the retiring Labour Party Chief Whip, Bob Mellish.

    The then unknown, Simon Hughes ran for the Liberals and the Liberals true to their usual practice of resorting to any slime-ball tactic to smear an opponent had plastered Bermondsy, a solid East End working class district with crude posters proclaiming “Tatchell is a poof”, “Tatchell’s a bender” and such. The old hands advised Tatchell to be open and come out about his sexuality and so turn the tables with a display of frankness. Tatchell refused, not trusting the voters to prefer openness to the Liberals’ politics of the gutter.

    Tatchell lost the seat! Simon Hughes never looked back – even when his own proclivities in the trouser department became known many years later and Tatchell went on to a career as Mr Supergay by embarrassing and humiliating old CofE clerics who had quietly gone about their lives harming none, by “outing” them in public poster displays at Church synods.

    I for one am happy to respect Tatchell’s wishes not to be called a “faggot”. [play the ball – mod]

    In contrast Tom Robinson of “Glad to be Gay” fame, who was quite open and militantly unapologetic about his sexuality, was on Radio 4 today defending the song and calling for this crass censorship to be revoked.

    By their lights shall ye know them.

  • Pete Baker

    Rory

    Equal opportunity censorship it seems.

    Channel 4 reported that “slut” was similarly airbrushed out of existance.

    Happy Christmas your arse.

    But they’ve reversed the decision!

    Too bloody late to recover their reputation though.. if they had one..

  • Pete Baker
  • Donnacha

    Bloody nonsense. Thatchell bleating that “it’s being used as an insult…” Of course it is you moron, it’s about two people having a massive drunken row and firing all manner of epithets at each other. Anyway, I can only hope that this storm in a teacup boosts sales and airplay of the song, so that all the members of the band can cash even bigger royalty cheques in February.

  • Rory

    If they were going to interfere with any Christmas song why couldn’t it be Sir Clifford Richard’s “Mistletoe and Wine”?

    Any responsible authority should know that the ingestion of mistletoe would make one very ill indeed and Sir Clifford’s promotion of such a dangerous practice is a clear threat to the health and safety of the vulnerable young teenagers (and silly old farts) who constitute Radio 1’s listening audience. So let’s replace it with “Chee-eh-heese and Wine” which is in any case much more upwardly socially aspirant.

    Mistletoe indeed! I really resent Sir Clifford’s attempt to ram such a horrible thing down the throats of innocent young teenagers. God knows what other awful thing he might next be tempted to force them to swallow.

  • Picking up on George’s comment (#2) according to my trusty old Hiberno-English Dictionary ‘faggot’ means: “A contemptuous term for a dirty untidy woman” so in my book that’s even stevens (slut – faggot). Although the F word emerges from Kirsty’s gob, perhaps Shane put it their in a unisex spirit to enable sing-a-longers of any gender or persuasion to get fully stuck in. By way of marking Kirsty’s passing 7 years ago today, here’s that dumb old video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltiY-BqvOIU

  • Ma, I’m sorry for spelling “there” ‘their’ – you did all you could

  • Danny O’Connor

    Shane is a poet-you may not agree with what some people would descibe as vulgar lyrics-but hey this man is a genius.If anyone wants to be offended these days-just listen to the crap that passes for music on radio gaga – sorry I meant radio 1.
    ps if you are offended by expetives don’t listen to “body of an American”

  • Danny O’Connor

    expletives

  • Rory

    Danny,

    My Aunty Mary Ellen couldn’t understand what all the fuss was about over Richard Nixon’s use of “expletives”.

    She thought that as he wasn’t a Catholic he was entitled to use whatever form of birth control best suited him.

  • Rory

    Ronan Keating and Máire Ní Bhraonáin should’ve been fukked out of the country for their censored version of Fairytale for their censored version of Fairytale”

    I can’t really agree with this, Tochais. They ” should’ve been fukked out of the country” just for being Ronan Keating and Máire Ní Bhraonáin. But please don’t send them anywhere near Tottenham we’ve got enough misery here already.

  • Tochais Síoraí

    Indeed, Rory. Apologies. We won’t send them to Tottenham anyway.

    ‘Billy ran around with the rare old crew
    And he knew an Arsenal from Tottenham blue”

    ‘From a 5 pound bet in William Hills
    To a Soho sex-shop dream
    From a fried egg in Valtaro’s
    To a Tottenham Court Road ice cream’
    (Not in Tottenham but hey…)

    Must try to get out more.