Union flag only for public buildings…

Really interesting stuff on flags in the NILT survey. One, there is virtually no public support for flags on lamposts. And no ambivalence either. Two, the Union flag is the one by far most favoured for flying outside public buildings at 38%. Next, and a long way behind, is no flag at all on 24%, just ahead of a new neutral flag at 21%. The both tricolour and union flag option runs at 9%, and tricolour only 2%.

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  • Yokel

    No harm to these good people in the survey but they know nothing.

    The average housing estate needs brightening up with bunting, damn places are as dull as dishwater……

  • Frank Sinistra

    That would be the NILT survey that found SF support to be 11%. Excuse me if I treat their data as useless.

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    Anyhow flags on lamposts and telegraph poles look so bloody awful and cheapens the look of any place. Especially if they have been left up awhile and begin to look even more tawdry and ragged. This marking out of territory with flags etc… is a bit like the way tomcats mark their territory with their pungent piss!

  • pondersomething

    Their data is far from useless Frank with the exception of the party support figures (and they’re conducting an academic survey rather than a party political poll)

    There’s always a whole wealth of data in there and its a fascinating publication each year.

    It also comes up with fairly consistent figures year-on-year – for instance the figures of 20-25% pro-Union Catholic support have been consistent for years now. Whether they would actually vote that way in a highly-charged referendum is admittedly another question – I guess a lot depends on how Unionism conducts itself in years to come.

  • kensei

    “Their data is far from useless Frank with the exception of the party support figures (and they’re conducting an academic survey rather than a party political poll)”

    Nah, it really does call into question the rest of it.

    But as for this post, it’s all in spin, isn’t it? Could equal say “Majority against flying Union Flag outside public buildings”. Could also point out that the Catholic support is under 10%.

  • joeCanuck

    Thank you for flagging this Mick.

  • Frank Sinistra

    Ponders,

    The only statistics we can verify year on year are the political support figures. Every year they are completely at odds with the realities of elections.

    That calls into question the validity of their sampling.

    It could be due to something as simple as Republicans being as likely to complete a huge Northern Ireland Life and Times Survey as they are to take a doorstep subscription for the Ulster Tatler.

  • Frank Sinistra

    I’d also point out DUP support is also terribly misread by NILT but at least they have them rated as the party with the highest support.

    The sample reflects the UUP, SDLP and APNI within the margins of error.

    The DUP and SF are both extremely underrated. There could be a problem with NILT being terrible at providing a representative demographic cross section and being unable to gain adequate response rates outside the middle classes.

    As I said if the verifiable figures are so off all the rest is open to questions.

  • DC

    From the NILT surveys you would think everyone voted Alliace and we were in fact in a different world.

  • Deirdre

    Calm down, breathe deeply, NILT may not be that far out. 21% of people told them they would support no party and 13% didn’t know. That is 34% out of the total and the figures aren’t adjsuted. They were within margin of error for the SDLP voters – 13% as against 15.2 in the Assembly. They gave the UUP 14% where they got 14.9%. Alliance got 6% from NILT and 5.2% from the punters. What does this add up? People are still reluctant to tell pollsters they are voting DUP still less Sinn Fein. They prefer to say they don’t know or haven’t made up their minds.Hardly a startling conclusion and hardly and indictment of NILT.

  • Deirdre’s point is well made, but it’s worth re-reading Kensei’s post in that context… the same ‘spiral of silence’ effect may apply to other questions.

    NILT is interesting, but far from conclusive on any question. I’d treat it with a fair degree of caution.

  • jone

    Still it was nice to see the fat fuckwits of Annadale taking a break from their busy schedules (spending their benefits in the Wine Barrel, dumping crap all over the embankment) to ‘flag out’ the mixed Ballynafeigh area this evening.

    Still, at least they looked a bit shifty while taking part in this needless bit of tension raising.

  • southeast

    ‘Still it was nice to see the fat fuckwits of Annadale taking a break from their busy schedules (spending their benefits in the Wine Barrel, dumping crap all over the embankment) to ‘flag out’ the mixed Ballynafeigh area this evening.’

    I presume they were backed up by the S.Belfast uff, as has been the case on previous years.

  • willis

    It’s a funny thing but thinking about the Doc and Marty working together makes those poxy flags a lot more bearable.