Northern Ireland punching well above its weight!!

Here’s an interesting indexing of FIFA world soccer ratings, which shows the performance of all associations by ‘per head of population’. Northern Ireland comes in at number one, and the Republic is number four. Next time our trenchant soccer critics get carried away by the eloquence of their own vituperation, they should come back to this, over and over. H/T James!

  • sasha

    Glad the season’s over as Big Davy needs the break to get fit. Hope he’s plenty of Walking planned over the summer as we don’t want him Flagging any more- He’s definitley the Twelfth man for the Blues but he does need to aspire to more than our traditional route one football.

  • ziznivy

    Realist, I note that you have been gloatig on this site about how you have barred me from the Our Wee Country site.
    However chickens are coming home to roost as I’m now re-registered under a new nom de plume. What is the first thing I note upon my return, a thread started by Marty which is a thinly-veiled attack on you for your attitude and actions against me.

    Watch this space.

  • Realist

    Ziznivy,

    No gloating on my part for your dispicable comments on OWC.

    Grow up.

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    I doubt if NI Unionists would love to see NI Nationalists support the NI soccer team. Suppose it happened, and NI Nationlists supported the team in droves as what ye get at GAA games. This of course would lead to a dilution of the NI supporters chants, colours and flags. There would be no more sectarian chants of ‘….up to our necks in fenian blood etc….’ or Rule Britannia, or the waving of Union flags, and maybe NI nationalist fans would want the dropping of ‘God Save the Queen’. The already Green jersey of NI is a step in the right direction. It’s a wonder the strip was never changed to red white and blue, a 3 lions crest and topped of with a crown, of course.

  • Ziznivy

    “Ziznivy,

    No gloating on my part for your dispicable comments on OWC.

    Grow up.

    Posted by Realist on May 14, 2007 @ 09:11 AM”

    That wasn’t me. Did you really think it read like something I’d post?

    Oh and “despicable”.

  • Bill

    Linfield have disgraced NI again.
    Dungannon, a provincial town, can bring a score (perhaps even 4 score and 10) of hotties to the Irish Cup final and what do we get from Linfield?

    A gross, and I do mean gross, of the ugly beer bellied side of Irish football.

    Perhaps they should have asked some of the camogie players to go to the final to prove that Belfast society is not that ugly?

  • Democratic

    Pathetic – the ROI supporters reckon they have their “de facto Ireland team” and they still complain about Norn Iron.
    The thing that I find the most hypocritical is this business of devisive flags and symbols at Windsor toward Nationalists – the same people cannot see that the tricolours and soldier songs, Fields of Anthenry (complete with add-ons) have exactly the same effect of those of a Unionist perspective – but then that’s different isn’t it.
    Good luck with the “de facto all Ireland” business by the way just remember – no matter how many times you say it – it won’t be true – what you have is an all Nationalist team in terms of support – but then that’s exactly what you lot want anyway eh?

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    I don’t hear the ROI fans chant derogatory anti- NI Unionist songs like the type with get with the Billy Boys and their ‘up to their necks in Fenian blood….’

  • Realist

    “That wasn’t me. Did you really think it read like something I’d post?”

    Sorry Ziznivy,

    Don’t understand why someone would use your nom de plume in such a way?

    If the person using your nom de plumbe here is the individual recently banned from OWC, with the full support of the site owner, I really despair for him.

    The banned individual knows who I am, where I am, and that he is welcome to come and air his grievances to my face at any time, rather than do the internet warrior trick.

    Apologies again for my mistake.

  • Democratic

    “I don’t hear the ROI fans chant derogatory anti- NI Unionist songs like the type with get with the Billy Boys and their ‘up to their necks in Fenian blood….”
    No you don’t but then again the Billy Boys hasn’t been heard at Windsor (at NI matches at least) in a long long time now either – long may it continue. If you reckon I’m wrong – please let me know how and when.
    Do the northern ROI/Celtic fans shout Sinn Fein/ IRA during the Fields of Anthenry in Dublin or is it something thet reserve for Belfast only? probably never heard that one i’m sure eh?

  • Realist

    “don’t hear the ROI fans chant derogatory anti- NI Unionist songs”

    Gréagóir

    You’re obviously deaf in one ear.

    Northern Unionists are “Brits”, aren’t they?

    Do you not hear the IRA “add ons” during “The Fields” either?

    Unless your telling me the IRA aren’t anti British?

    PS: I haven’t heard “The Billy Boys” being sung by Northern Ireland fans, at a Northern Ireland game, inside any stadium, for 5 years.

    You epitomise exactly why there wont be a “United” Ireland team anytime soon.

    Rather than focus on the positives, you choose demonise the very fans you would wish to be “united” with.

    You ignore the failings of “nationalist” football fans, to demonise “unionist” football fans for their failings.

    That, in itself, is sectarian.

  • Ziznivy

    “Sorry Ziznivy,

    Don’t understand why someone would use your nom de plume in such a way?

    If the person using your nom de plumbe here is the individual recently banned from OWC, with the full support of the site owner, I really despair for him.”

    Maybe in the same way that someone occasionally uses your “nom de plume”. And I can assure you that ziznivy with a small z is neither me, nor is it the poster on OWC that was banned (ahem).

    Whoever it is has made at least a couple of posts now that I have seen using the name I use to post on here.

    I don’t see Slugger as the place to air in grievances about OWC. Perhaps you feel differently given your comments on the Irish Language thread and accusations that I’m “a glory hunter”.

  • darth rumsfeld

    yawn
    more whinging from nationalists who weren’t at the game.Why are you guys so insecure? The only consolation in not winning is that you’d havetwice as much to gurn about.

    Facts- Linfield were comprehensively outplayed, and only spirit kept them in the game. The Bluemen recognised that. They applauded the deserved winners, and many stayed behind for the trophy presentation. There was no trouble -if there had been I’m sure we’d be treated to a thousand “witnesses” like the Newry man who claims to have been spat at, even though supporters were strictly segregated. One lunatic from the Drog end got through the stewards and was quickly pulled back. One Drog player gestured to the Kop after scoring his penalty. Hardly earthshattering. I didn’t see a peeler in the ground- changed days indeed.

    Yes there were a couple of desultory choruses of the sash from a section of the Kop and one tuneless stab at Rule Brittania. Big deal. Fans taunt each other. The true face of both support ( including the excellent Drogheda crowd) was when each set of fans applauded the opposing team at the end.

  • Ziznivy

    “The banned individual knows who I am, where I am, and that he is welcome to come and air his grievances to my face at any time, rather than do the internet warrior trick”.

    And I would emphasise, that unlike yourself, I have more pressing concerns than meeting up with someone to discuss matters on an internet site. If I happen to see you somewhere I’ll have no compunction in sharing my thoughts. Only on Saturday I was having some pints with a large group of posters from the site (including Linfield supporters).

  • Dinger

    When I first moved across the water, I used to be a bit embarrassed about my Presbyterian background ‘cos it seemed like Ulster Prods were so much more b1goted, bitter and blinkered than their Nationalist counterparts…every time the subject of the N. Ireland football team is discussed on Slugger, I realise how tragically deluded I once was…

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    I agree with you Realist,and you have put me in my place! The ROI fans can be as ever bit sectarian as NI fans as the footage shows in Stuggart. The chant of course was aimed at Northern Irish Unionists in particular. And as you know, Lansdowne Road and now Croke park is a den of sectarianism just like what Windsor Park can be at times, altough Windsor Park is not like that now. You can be rest assured that there will never be a United Ireland soccer team.

  • The World’s Gone Mad

    Dinger – if its any consolation, there appears to be a higher than normal proportion of Leeds fans among your Nationalist counterparts on Slugger…

  • darth rumsfeld

    “there appears to be a higher than normal proportion of Leeds fans among your Nationalist counterparts on Slugger…”
    .. what a tragedy. to be so wrong about politics AND footer! Perhaps they know their popular music but since troubles come in threes they probably like haircut 100 Status Quo or the heebeegeebees

  • Darth,

    As one of the said Leeds fans, I have to say that my musical tastes are a lot,lot, better than “one-riff” Status Quo…!

    For me, its The Jam, The The Small Faces, The Who, Northern Soul etc… (My old Mod past is beginning to show…!)

  • Realist

    “I don’t see Slugger as the place to air in grievances about OWC. Perhaps you feel differently given your comments on the Irish Language thread and accusations that I’m “a glory hunter”.

    Ziznivy,

    Who are you directing that comment too? I have made no such accusations.

    “If I happen to see you somewhere I’ll have no compunction in sharing my thoughts”

    Good lad – that’ll be a first!

    “Only on Saturday I was having some pints with a large group of posters from the site (including Linfield supporters)”

    Good lad. I’m quite sure you’ll be meeting a few more Linfield fans in the not too distant future.

    I met a friend at the game with his special needs son. It’s a pity you didn’t bump into him. He’d like to meet you.

    I take it that the saddo posting as ziznivy (small z) is an internet stalker, infatuated with the OWC website, and certain individuals on it – deary, deary me.

  • Zinedene Kilbane

    ‘Good lad. I’m quite sure you’ll be meeting a few more Linfield fans in the not too distant future. I met a friend at the game with his special needs son. It’s a pity you didn’t bump into him. He’d like to meet you.’

    Slugger Admin,

    This is a thinly-disguised threat of violence by Realist against Ziznivy. Surely this cannot be tolerated and warrants a Red Card?

    If this is the way Northern Ireland fans behave towards each other, they’d be better building them a stadium in Belfast Zoo rather than the Maze.Talk about letting the side down.

  • Realist

    “This is a thinly-disguised threat of violence by Realist against Ziznivy”

    There’ll be absolutely no violence on my part Zinedene Kilbane.

    Of that, you can be assured.

    Disputes are always best settled by talking – directly.

    I don’t do “thinly veiled”.

    Nothing to do with “Northern Ireland fans” either.

    So – don’t be so dramatic.

  • Big Joe

    This Realist -Ziznivy dispute is really getting tedious. Can they please stop their dispute spilling over from the Our Wee Country site to Slugger. Stop washing the dirty linen in public, lads as the beggars are laughing at you.
    Realist, you should know the protocols of posting by now. You do not suggest a face-to face meeting with another poster to sort an internet dispute out. That is crossing the boundary and is more than a little disturbing. Continue as a keyboard warrior if you so wish but don’t start stalking another poster.As a GAWA regular, will Ziz now be afraid to follow OWC to away games because he doesn’t want to have this ‘little chat’ with those Linfield fans that you want to introduce him to?
    Persecution of a fellow NI fan is not on and you, of all people, should be setting an example to other fans.

  • Realist

    Big Joe,

    Things have not been helped by posters on here impersonating myself and Ziznivy in recent days.

    As a Northern Ireland supporter, at any Northern Ireland match home or away, I’ll be standing shoulder to shoulder with Ziznivy, in support of our team.

    If we need to talk about things other than our support of Northern Ireland, we’ll do that too – in a civilised manner.

    I do believe there is at least one internet stalker who has been busy stirring things up here over the past few days – it certainly hasn’t been me, and nor do I believe it is the individual recently banned from OWC.

    You may not be aware, but some extremely abusive posts directed at me, have been removed from Slugger in recent days.

    It’s perhaps not as clever a ploy as the impersonator(s) think.

    I’m no “internet warrior”, nor do I believe in settling disputes through violence.

    I’m happy to discuss disputes, in a civilised manner, with anyone.

    It’s a shame someone had to drag the OWC storm in a teacup over here, in some macabre demonstration of internet stalking.

    That’s all I’ve to say on this particular matter – best kept private from now on.

  • Realist

    “Yes there were a couple of desultory choruses of the sash from a section of the Kop”

    DR,

    I believe some Drogheda fans joined in.

    They understand that both traditions (as represented on their national flag) are to be cherished equally.

    The Boyne is on their doorstep – something they were delighted to show off to young Linfield supporters visiting Drogheda for the Setanta Group Stage game earlier in the year.

    See Link.

    http://www.linfieldfc.com/latestnews.asp?nid=1974

    Those fans are true “United” Irelanders – unlike some posters on this thread who would claim that title.

    Dividing Irelanders would be more appropriate.

  • Big Joe

    Realist,
    I note that now you have been embarrassed into ending your persecution of a fellow NI fan. you have now returned to more familiar territory.

    You really would start a row in an empty house wouldn’t you?

    Get a life.

  • Realist

    “You really would start a row in an empty house wouldn’t you?”

    I didn’t start the (so called) row Joe – and I think you know that.

    I haven’t “persecuted” anybody.

    When I am the victim of vitriolic personal abuse, as was the case on Slugger at the weekend, I deal with it.

    Anyway – it’s all over now for the ghouls.

  • big jim

    Yeah, those Linfield are fans are just ‘ulster cracksters’ who would never dream of causing offense.

    Thet even play Catholics now !!

  • Cahal

    Very sad to see younsters singing about being up their necks in fenian blood, Jim.

    And so another generation of young protestants is infected.

    Is there some reason why soccer seems to be a breeding ground for this type of thing. Being involved in rugby and gaa, i’ve yet to come across such blatant sectarianism.

  • Ziznivy

    “As a Northern Ireland supporter, at any Northern Ireland match home or away, I’ll be standing shoulder to shoulder with Ziznivy, in support of our team.

    If we need to talk about things other than our support of Northern Ireland, we’ll do that too – in a civilised manner”

    I’d endorse that.

    There’s obviously been someone trying to stir things up in recent days by impersonation.

    I accept that the comments directed at me weren’t made by Realist.

    There is no dispute regarding anything to do with Northern Ireland football team or supporters either.