Paisley: a time of planting begins…

Paisley’s remarks in the Great Hall makes reference to his arrest in 1998. “But that was yesterday, this is today and tomorrow will be tomorrow. I have not changed my unionism, and I believe the union today is as strong as it has ever been. But in politics as in life it is a truism that no one can have 100% of what they want”. He also said that winning support for the institutions of policing amongst the CAtholic community was key to the reason this settlement would stick when others had foundered. He then quoted Soloman, To everything there is a season. He looked forward to “a time when hate will no longer rule. Today we have begun the work of planting…”

  • Philip

    Well the gardener sowed plenty of seed on stoney ground over the last decades!

  • againtthehead

    as long as we invest in weedkiller the future is bright!

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    ….and a good hedgetrimmer.

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    Good luck to all involved. Historic day today for all involved.

  • I hope Big Ian remembers to clock out tonight – after this performance he well deserves his 30 pieces of silver.

  • Harris

    “Today we have begun the work of planting…”

    Umm, was it not “planting” that caused all the problems to begin with??

  • Token Dissent

    Great day and all, but…

    An unsurprising lack of grace from the Big Man. To state that “the people of Ulster” could have sorted this out years ago if they had been left alone, underlines his deceitful representation of history. It also highlights how Paisley’s ‘unionism’ is jammed full of anti-Englishness and Little Ulsterism.

    It is very revealing that Paisley chose to start his speech by going over how he was “wrongly” arrested in 1998. Yes its all about you Ian.

  • Planting, as in plantation?

  • Mick Fealty


    I guess it was a reference to the linked prayer:

    “…a time to plant and a time to pluck up that which is planted”.

  • darth rumsfeld

    Perhaps he should re-read 1 Samuel chapter 4 verse 21 for the DUP’s epitaph

  • Briso

    21: And she named the child Ichabod, saying, The glory is departed from Israel: because the ark of God was taken, and because of her father in law and her husband.

    I must have the wrong bible?

  • Ginfizz

    No you do not. Darth is attempting humour.

  • darth rumsfeld

    thanks ginfizz-your erudition impresses

    I seem to remember a certain politician/cleric once saying of Stormont that Ichabod was writ large o’er its portals- just a few decades too early then

  • Damien Okado-Gough

    I didn’t agree with a lot of what Ian Paisley said, but I can’t deny that he gave the other three mumblers a master-class in oratory.

  • Ichabod, as you all must have learnt at Sunday School, spoke of the national humiliation of the Israelites. Most appropriate.

    The only thing planted today is the wind, and in due course I wonder who will reap the whirlwind. Now I wonder who came up with that metaphor in the first place?

    I also seem to remember a certain cleric from the Ravenhill Road area who told his congregation 2 days after the Anglo-Irish Agreement was signed that God punished Brian Faulkner for sharing power with Gerry Fitt and Paddy Devlin by removing him from this world. The name of the said preacher seems to escape me.

    On the subject of biblical texts, it’s not really a case of the lion lying down with the lamb as the serpent being cuddled by an octogenarian donkey.

  • Wise words from Jim Allister:

    “Now, as we sceptics brace ourselves for the hype and hyperbole of Tuesday 8th May, many might rightly ask what was the last 40 years of opposition all about, if embracing IRA/Sinn Fein into the bosom of government was so easy and congenial. Why was it wrong for Terence O’Neill, Brian Faulkner, David Trimble to do what they did, but suddenly right for Ian Paisley to give us the terrible twin package of Martin McGuinness and Bomber Kelly as Ministers in the equal Office of First and Deputy First Minister?”

  • Ulster McNulty

    One man’s serpent is another man’s freedom fighter, as they say.

    About the octogenarian donkey, how can you sure that it wasn’t God that called him back from the wilderness?

  • pith

    Appropriate that Paisley should quote from a book rich in cynicism.

    The Byrds did it better anyway.

  • merrie

    Bertie says the Irish Government will pay for a memorial of the Troiubles.

    I hope that if IP is into planting he will agree to a memorial forest discussed on another thread.

  • Gréagóir O’ Fráinclín

    …..a memorial forest of weeping willows.

  • T.Ruth

    We Ulster Scots were not planted here-we were always here as far back as history goes.
    The Scots and Scotland got their name from the name given to this island in ancient times. This planter -gael distinction is a nonsense. We are a much more complex society than that. I can trace the roots of my own family name back to the seventh century and beyond.
    The people of Ulster all have similar DNA-a miniscule proportion of which is Celtic.The differences in our society and the tensions are culturally constructed by people who like their history simplified.

  • merrie

    No, no Gréagóir. What I would like is a forest of native Irish trees, a variety to include at least the seven “noble” trees listed in ancient Irish texts. These are:

    daur “oak”
    Coll “hazel”
    Cuilenn “holly”
    Ibar “yew”
    Uinnius “ash”
    Ochtach “pine”
    Aball “wild apple”

    And if there is room some or all of the seven “Commoners of the Wood”, “Lower divisions of the wood” and “bushes of the wood”.

    Such a forest would be very symbolic not just of the recent troubles but of all known Irish history. It would be healing Irish land as well as the environment of the world.

    One of the main reasons for the English Protestant plantation was the wood in the forests of Ireland which was used to build, amongst other things, many ships which enabled Britannia to rule the waves.

    People from all over Ireland including the six counties could be able to get from this memorial forest seeds and small trees to grow in their own gardens.

  • pith

    “Wise words from Jim Allister”

    It’s the Allister catch isn’t it? A lot of people agree with what he says but don’t agree with what he wants.

  • Harris

    T. Ruth

    “The differences in our society and the tensions are culturally constructed by people who like their history simplified.”

    Might you be a revisionist??