Hearts and Minds: Empey and McCartney

This week on Hearts and Minds:

…two unionist leaders tell us why we should vote for their parties on March 7th…Can Sir Reg Empey inspire an Ulster Unionist revival..and Bob McCartney..a six-faced vote splitter? And people often complain that nothing ever changes in Northen Ireland politics, but we beg to disagree, and reveal our choice of the top ten moments of political breakhrough.

If you haven’t seen their take on great political failures (old and new), go back and check it before the new edition goes out…

  • Gerenian Nestor

    Tony Blair’s election victory a bigger breakthrough than Bobby Sands or even Gerry Adams in 1983? Sometimes the BBC does things that makes me wonder about how intelligent the people who work there are.

  • David

    Bob McCartney actually made some very relevant points on this show. He emerged far more assured than Reg. Ironically Reg had the better message.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Sometimes the BBC does things that makes me wonder about how intelligent the people who work there are.

    Alternatively, it could just be that they’re not chuckies who think that their political cataclysms matter to the rest of the world.

    Like Blair or not (I certainly don’t) there has been more business done in NI than by all of his predecessors put together since partition.

  • Greenflag

    Reg Empey came across as somebody whom irish nationalists and republicans could actually work with in NI . Bob McCartney made a valid point about ‘voluntary coalition’ being acceptable but not a ‘forced coalition’ .Somebody needs to remind Bob that Northern Ireland is not Wales or Scotland and that it’s also not Finchley .

    Reggie the winner IMO by 10 points to 4.

  • Gerenian Nestor

    I am certainly not a ‘chuckie’ as you, Comrade Stalin, choose to put it. I just tend to think that the elections of Sands and Adams began the politicisation of modern day republicanism and were historically much more significant than the election of Blair.
    Long before his election, MI5 had offered a roadmap which the republican movement accepted and has subsequently followed.
    The only reason it did not happen sooner was because Major was dependent on UUP votes in the House of Commons.
    There is a convincing argument that if republicans had not been politicised, this country would have been in anarchy by 1997 and it would not have mattered a jot whether Blair won a landslide.

  • Comrade Stalin

    I am certainly not a ‘chuckie’ as you, Comrade Stalin, choose to put it. I just tend to think that the elections of Sands and Adams began the politicisation of modern day republicanism and were historically much more significant than the election of Blair.

    Believe it or not, there is more to the world than the strategic whims of Sinn Fein. They were significant events for Sinn Fein, but personally I don’t really give a damn.

    There is a convincing argument that if republicans had not been politicised, this country would have been in anarchy by 1997 and it would not have mattered a jot whether Blair won a landslide.

    Rubbish. Please don’t try to tell me that I’m supposed to be grateful that the men of violence were converted to peace when God intervened to ensure the election of Sands and Adams.

    The fact is that the republicans have signed up to a deal that involves partition, devolution, the removal of all-Ireland national self-determination. Why would they have done that, and jettisoned all of the principles they went to war on, if they had the capacity and/or the will to sustain armed struggle and create anarchy ? The republicans wanted a way out. In fact, if you believe the Brits, the republicans approached them looking for a way out.

    If republicanism had failed to embrace politics it would have gone the same way as ETA now has. So, while those elections probably saved republicanism, to the rest of us they were of little significance.

  • GavBelfast

    “Tony Blair’s election victory a bigger breakthrough than Bobby Sands or even Gerry Adams in 1983? Sometimes the BBC does things that makes me wonder about how intelligent the people who work there are.”

    They were merely important events in chronological order through the 20th century, not ranked in order of importance.

    Do keep up and don’t always be looking for agendas that aint there!

  • Interested

    Didnt see the show. Any explanation from Bob as to why he wants Sinn Fein as the largest party after the election?

  • páid

    He doesn’t, it’s all in Gerry Moriarty’s ‘fevered imagination’.

    It’s hard for this Nationalist to dislike McCartney. Silk hanky, good looks, sharp brain, brilliant Béarlóir without a trace of nastiness.

    A class act IMO. As is Moriarty.

  • bruce201

    Just starting to see Bob beginning to diminish in his performances. He is slower, searching for words and having to hide more and more behind venom. I think he’s loosing it.

  • graduate

    Reg is more someone who nationalists and republicans can con on a regular basis. This is the great leader who will go back in on 26th March without Sinn Fein becoming a truly democratic party (without guns, mind) for the FOURTH time! It can be said that we should learn from our mistakes but Reg seems intent on doing a groundhog day!!
    By the way-you don’t have to like nationalists or republicans to work with them, or unionists for that matter, but we do need some form of stabilty so the whole damned thing doesn’t come crashing down round our ears again- hence DUP requests for SF delivery

  • Truth and Justice

    Empey was running on empty and Mccartney was full of hot air with no alternative.

  • zardoz

    I thought Reg came over quite well and he has done throughout the campaign.
    Bob is becoming more and more unhinged every time i hear him,good for a laugh though,he really does see himself as a modern messiah.