Cunningham: split vote line is nonsense…

Martin Cunningham, who is looking for a seat in South Down has said that accusations that his candidature is endangering a nationalist seat is ludicrous:

Going by that logic the SDLP and Provisional Sinn Fein shouldn’t run against each other as their policies and political positions are virtually identical. The two constitutional nationalist parties are running on totally different platforms than I am, they are running in support of British policing, I am running in complete opposition to it. They are running to restore the institutions of partition, I am running against partition and the institutions set up by the latest partition treaty.

  • Nevin

    Looks like Slugger’s got a dose of the splitters 😉

  • (I am running against partition and the institutions set up by the latest partition treaty).

    By trying to damage the Sinn Féin vote.
    Not out of the belief that he has an alternative that will work. Because he doesn’t.
    He and his friends live in the belief that every one else got it wrong except for the chosen.
    Who bore us with there condescending dribble about sell out and administering British rule. While they stand in an election set-up up by the British to appease the DUP.
    Mr Cunningham and his Borg friends should prepare them selves for the political wilderness and let the rest of us solider on with the job of uniting the island.

  • James Jameson

    “Mr Cunningham and his Borg friends should prepare them selves for the political wilderness and let the rest of us solider on with the job of uniting the island.”

    Who? Sinn Fein? You’re having a laugh

  • mickhall

    pol

    This is a democrat vote, Cunningham like anyone else has the right to stand, I suppose we must make allowances for you shinners, as you have not quite got the hang of democracy yet, as demonstrated by your 95% vote at your Ard Fheis, which had the stench of Stalinism all over it.

    It is not Cunningham who has no alternative but SF, with its acceptance of what ever the UK State places on Mr Adams plate. Not only have they got you to turn in your arms, accept the right of MI5 to do what they wish in Ireland, become a recruiting sergeant for the PSNI; and agree not to push for a full independent inquiry into collusion on fear of the Brits naming the touts at the top of SF. [notice how quite those RUC/PSNI officers have gone once SF backed off on collusion]

    In return they have given you nothing bar releasing the prisoners, which would have come about anyway if past practice is anything to go on. You have not even managed to get your OTRs home.

    Now if you wish to act like a grown up, we can both get back in our prams and we can engage in a debate about policies and the future. But if you prefer to engage in smears and snide remarks be my guest.

  • John Farrell

    Where would Elections be without no hopers who are given what the young folks call a “big up” by the media..not least because they give themselves a”big up”.
    A hundred years ago the Skibereen Eagle was warning the Russian Czar that it had its eyes on him.
    Martin Cunningham….no hoper with an ego and the money for a deposit. A bit like most of us in many respects (except for the money for a deposit)

  • mickhall

    There you go again, telling shiners what they have done wrong. Sold out, traitors.
    As i stated above no policies on how Cunningham and the Borg are going to put in train a process on acheaving anything.
    There one and only aim to is to damage Sinn Féin.
    So put up or shut up.
    What are you going to do to achieve a united people and a united Ireland.
    No dribble or you will be kicked out of the pram.

  • mickhall

    “What are you going to do to achieve a united people and a united Ireland. No dribble or you will be kicked out of the pram.”

    Pol

    To Resist, as republicans have done for centuries and cease bending the knee to perfidious albion. By the way I have never called anyone in SF a traitor due to the matter in question, nor do I regard them so.

    SF is the second largest party in the north, any writer who comments on politics has a duty to question and challenge that party’s policies and leadership. It is only human nature that when doing so one takes a subjective tac, as if one is being honest it is par for the course. You seem to be able to accept this when pro unionist writers criticize SF, but when we come from a Republican standpoint, you seem to be saying we should only praise your party in the manner of Jim Gibney or Danny Morrison and if we cannot do that, we should cease to write and become politicians and offer up a political platform of our own.

    As I said you have simply not got the hang of this democracy lark. During the armed struggle many of us kept quite about certain happenings and in my opinion we made a grave error by doing so, as our silence may well have extended the war.

    Thankfully in life you can correct your mistakes, although sadly one cannot bring back the dead. Thus if it means upsetting CIRA/RSF for criticizing them for continuing the armed struggle, or you and other Shinners by stating that SF are completely mistaken by putting all their eggs within the GFA basket and no good will come of doing so, so be it.

    Of course it is your right to consider what i write as rubbish, but at least have the courtesy, if you reply to my post, to give your reasons as to why you feel like that, but please cease demanding of me that every time I write something I must accompany it with a full political manifesto as to the future of the island of ireland, for that is for the politicians and thankfully that is not, and never will be my profession.

  • Mick Hall,

    “This is a democrat vote, Cunningham like anyone else has the right to stand, I suppose we must make allowances for you shinners, as you have not quite got the hang of democracy yet, as demonstrated by your 95% vote at your Ard Fheis, which had the stench of Stalinism all over it”.

    How exactly does raising your hand in a free vote following impassioned arguments on both sides, result in your description of “Stalinism”?

    Do you have any historical insight or knowledge in to what “Stalinism” actually was? If you do, then your description certainly does not reveal this.

    Also you later state:

    ” As I said you have simply not got the hang of this democracy lark. During the armed struggle many of us kept quite about certain happenings and in my opinion we made a grave error by doing so, as our silence may well have extended the war”.

    What sort of utter nonsense is this?

    Firstly it is surely a broadly acknowledged fact that it was Gerry Adams actual ability to grasp what you call “this democracy lark” which succesfully led to the eventual ending of the war. As for your obsure ramblings about you “keeping quiet” about certain things which resulted in the extension of the war, this quite frankly smacks of Walter Mitty. Either elaborate on this quite sensational claim or withdraw it. But you cannot get away with hiding behind such a generalised and quite ludicrous claim.

  • mickhall

    Some of my points would have been covered by macswiney and in due course you will no dough deal with them.

    When I ask you to spell out, how those who are against the Sinn Féin process, (because that is what it is a process not an end) are going to achieve a united Ireland you responded.….To Resist, as republicans have done for centuries and cease bending the knee to perfidious albion)…. This I am afraid doesn’t answer the question and why is it every time the question is asked, if you don’t get answers like the one you gave, you get no answer at all.

    Maybe it is easier to attack your enemy with rhetoric, especially when your own analysis is lacking any substance or creditability.

  • mickhall

    “As for your obsure ramblings about you “keeping quiet” about certain things which resulted in the extension of the war, this quite frankly smacks of Walter Mitty.”

    macswiney
    Some time in the 1980s Mr Adams and a number of others within the leadership of the PRM concluded that to continue the armed struggle was hopeless, and from the late 1980s, if not before, they took it upon themselves to enter into negotiations with the UK State to bring the armed Struggle to an end.

    Yet despite this they continued to send volunteers out until 1997, [bar the period of the first ceasefire] They did this in full knowledge that little could be achieved by risking the lives of these volunteers for the reasons I have already given. [as they were in secret negotiations to end the armed struggle without a British withdrawal.]

    In the early 1990s the fact that negotiations were taking place to stand PIRA down began to seep out from both UK government and Republican sources, yet no republican writers mentioned it out of loyalty to the ‘Movement’

    Now I am sure I am not the only person to feel that if the aforementioned had been made public, few rational people would have gone out gun in hand to bring about the reunification of Ireland, when their leaders were at that very time negotiating with the UK State to stand the PIRA down and the maintenance of the status quo within the north.

    To be blunt volunteers were sent out to kill and be killed whilst their leaders where negotiating surrender behind their backs.[Anticipating you will get on your high horse here, I ask you to name any other army that has agreed to hand in or destroy its weaponry who have not surrendered]

    As I have said there are countless other examples I could give, but hey dont lets analyze how we got were we are, let just throw insults like Walter Mitty about and cry loudly “God bless you Gerry.”