Abduction bid in Londonderry

After a failed abduction attempt in Londonderry, the father of the teenager targeted has pointed the finger of blame at mainstream republicans. Update A Sinn Fein councillor has denied it:

What I can say on behalf of Sinn Fein is republicans weren’t involved, and I can only speak for Sinn Fein.

Interview with the victim and his father here – realpayer needed (Updated because Ian made the point reasonably)

  • Overhere

    My train was late getting in last night I blame mainstream republicians. This is just not on and they must come up to the mark and state that they were not behind the latness of the train.

  • Good reply Overhere. I am glad to see the quality of replies from trolls on the old Slugger hasn’t increased any.

  • Henry94

    “put away the hurly bats” this unnamed person is reported to have said. Who calls a hurley, a hurly bat?

    This is a poor attempt even by the usual standards of pre-election dirty-trickery. It’s clearly a load of Cricket Sliotars.

  • Sok

    I had money on Barca last night and look what happened. Mainstream Republicans need to apologise for Liverpool’s winner. Until they do I’ll be boycotting any assembly.

  • Who calls a hurley, a hurly bat?

    Lots of people who aren’t terribly interested in the GAA or using proper Irish terms; that includes many good nationalists and republicans.

    I think you can ignore BBC cub reporters’ inability to spell; I have to or I lose the bap.

    Besides, in the feeding frenzy, you all seem to have forgotten to read the last couple of lines of the report:

    “Sinn Fein has said republicans deny any involvement in the incident.”

    “It urged anyone with information to contact the police.

  • steve

    I heard that Craig Bellamy did not attack Risse with a golf club, it was mainstream republicans.

  • MickMcDowell

    I went for a Swim at my local swimming pool and have now been diagnosed with atheletes foot. Could we ger someone from the BBC to ring 44 Parnell Square to get a reaction from mainstreem Republicans

  • Henry94

    Sammy Morse

    Sinn Fein’s denial of involvement does not imply an acceptance that there was an incident.

    It just means they were not involved in any such incident.

    The PSNI are investigating an allegation by the looks of it and of course anyone with any information should give it to them.

  • fair_deal

    Interesting that Sinn Fein can manage a more sensible response to the accusation than some of our commentariat.

  • Dec

    Interesting that Sinn Fein can manage a more sensible response to the accusation than some of our commentariat.

    Equally interesting is that you didn’t see fit to include SF’s response to the allegations in your thread.

  • Glensman

    Well said Dec.

  • Nevin

    Perhaps it was just a piece of Michael Stone-like street theatre performed by the Sinner Amateur Dramatic Society – which was misinterpreted by the teenager and his father?

  • merrie

    Of course the alleged abduction has nothing to do with drugs or some other criminal activity.

    We don’t know what the kid gets up to in his spare time.

    It seems that whenever someone accuses “mainstream Republicanism” it hits the headlines, and/or becomes a topic in Slugger. Don’t bother looking for real evidence beforehand.

  • fair_deal

    Dec/Glensman

    Blame the blogger rather than address the story, yeah yeah yeah.

    Merrie

    Are you suggesting that if a father accused the UUP/DUP/SDLP/Alliance of trying to abduct their son after the son previously received threats from them, it wouldn’t become a headline story?

    “Don’t bother looking for real evidence beforehand.”

    Quite “the alleged abduction has nothing to do with drugs or some other criminal activity.We don’t know what the kid gets up to in his spare time.”

  • Dec

    Blame the blogger rather than address the story, yeah yeah yeah.

    Try blogging the full story not just cherrypicking the bits that suit your agenda then.

  • Ian

    Dec, to be fair to Fair Deal, when the blog was posted at 9:50am the BBC story to be found at the link was an earlier version that didn’t carry the SF quote. It’s since been updated – perhaps Fair Deal hasn’t yet had an opportunity to update the blog?

  • fair_deal

    Thank you Ian.

  • heck

    SF should come clean on which members don’t pay their TV license fee (to subsidise pro british propaganda!)

    There should be no fenians in government until they pay 1 million euros to the government.

  • Ian

    “Thank you Ian.”

    You’re welcome, although I would emphasise the word ‘yet’ in my contribution.

  • fair_deal

    Ian

    I thought the comments debate including my own (at least those that don’t adopt the lah!lah!lah! fingers in ear approach) gives the SF denial due prominence.

    Plus giving into commentor cries of bias eg Dec/Glensman can be a slippery slope for a blogger especially on this site.

  • merrie

    Fair Deal

    > Are you suggesting that if a father accused the UUP/DUP/SDLP/Alliance of trying to abduct their son after the son previously received threats from them, it wouldn’t become a headline story?

    No, I am not suggesting that at all. I read the BBC article linked by your blog and I do not think that there was any information on the matter other than the dad’s accusations.

    If any other group were so accused, then I’d also want to have more evidence before reading about it.

    If an individual were so accused, then there may be grounds for libel.

    I might add that should the attempted abduction be found to have happened, I hope that the person(s) who committed the offence get due justice.

    If I were in Sinn Fein I would be pretty fed up fending off such accusations.

  • Dec

    Plus giving into commentor cries of bias eg Dec/Glensman can be a slippery slope for a blogger especially on this site.

    Nice try to deflect the deficiencies of the thread onto others and their apparent ‘bias’. The simple fact was that it was unbalanced and you were engaged in your usual ‘no smoke without fire’ finger pointing towards Republicans before admitting defeat and updating the thread a full five hours later.

  • fair_deal

    1. Ian points out the story originally had no SF reaction. hence the inital ommission.
    2. The link on this blog went to the updated article which included the SF denial.
    3. Commentors including myself drew attention to the SF denial.

    One reason for its earlier ommission and two clear opportunities for readers of slugger to find out about the SF denial.

    For your perusal my last thread on SF and policing or another of my threads from today were my anti-SF agenda obviously shines through.

    Plus the matter that your comments breach the ball not man rule of the site as well.

    So take 20p, your lack of good grace and your little blinkered complaints and ring someone who gives a flying fuck.

  • nmc

    40p now FD. I see no obvious bias on this thread, although at the risk of being on the receiving end of dogs abuse, the wheels have kind of come off now. Not least of all beacause of the same shit joke six times on this thread so far.

  • Dec

    So take 20p, your lack of good grace and your little blinkered complaints and ring someone who gives a flying fuck.

    Yeah, your nonchalance shines through. As I said earlier, report the full facts and not just the ones that suit your agenda and there will be a proper platform for debate. Until then, leave your hissy-fits at home.

  • Henry94

    This just in

    The father of a youth who was the victim of an abduction attempt in Londonderry has said mainstream republicans were not involved.
    The 17-year-old had said a masked IRA gang tried to abduct him in the Gobnascale estate in the Waterside at about 0600 GMT.

    However, his father said that after making further inquiries he now did not believe this was the case.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6385287.stm

  • You’d think there was an election in the air.

  • Getting very “Fox News” here on Slugger.

    Is Mick touting Rupert Murdoch to buy Slugger?

    Bill “Son of Satan” O’Reilly will be the new Slugger in Chief, censering posts, spinning them the Fox News way.

  • Henry94

    Those who sneered at people who were sceptical of this story have gone to ground.

  • Plum Duff

    Actually, I’m very surprised that any ‘Green’ thinking person rose to FD’s bait at all, at all.

    Sure, don’t we all know there’s no such a place as ‘London’derry. So, if there’s no place, it just didn’t happen. Fantasy politics (and wind-up). QED.

  • merrie

    I am really glad Slugger exists – helps to let the other side know especially on such occasions as this.

    Sadly, some of “those who sneered” are probably thinking that some “mainstream nationalists” have strong-armed the concerned Dad into recanting his accusations.

    Incidentally does anyone else have this on their screen on Slugger’s home page, mid right frame:

    Bloggers
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    Don’t know who the core team bloggers are anymore.

    I am using a Mac with Safari or Firefox.

  • Plum Duff

    Merrie

    I TOLD you it was fantasy politics.

    Now, do you believe me?? :o)

  • merrie

    Plum Duff
    Yes, I do believe you. Slugger commentary helps to lift the veils of illusion.